The unofficial online home for fans of the Old Dominion University Monarchs. Part of Collegiate Sports Nation (CSN).

(09-12-2016 09:59 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(09-12-2016 08:59 AM)HickoryMonarch Wrote:  

(09-12-2016 08:07 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  I predicted a 45-21 loss because of the offense that the 'Pack will bring. It is better and more versatile than that of App. They can get so many people the ball, and they are very up tempo.

We may be able to score more than 21, especially if the defense gets some stops.

Because of the lack of pressure NC State puts on the passer, This might be as good a time to play SB as we get all season.

EDIT:
The good news is that App is likely the best defense we will see all season.
The bad news is that the Wolfpack offense is likely (still unsure about WKU) the best we will see all season.

And how did the SB experiment work out against State last year. Sorry, brother Washington gives us our best chance to have success.

He needs to earn it. He had a chance to impress in the Hampton game and didnt. Experiment if we have a sizeable lead late in games.

The Wolfpack left some points on the table against ECU, yeah I can see them scoring 38-45 points.

(09-12-2016 12:09 PM)Punk Wrote:  This is bound to be a cluster...

Tell someone to wear red, but in the white part of the image.

They tend not to spend too much time thinking things through.

http://deadspin.com/5540998/wolpfack-typ...-efic-pail

Go to http://www.gopack.com for video of today's Dave Doeren press conference. Someone prepped him fairly well with notes about ODU that he read, although I laughed when he emphasized that "they have an explosive offense that averages 30 points per game (54+7 -61)." Not surprisingly, after his remarks, no one asked any questions about the ODU game, all the focus was on the ECU loss.

What star player is Bruce Rader talking about not traveling to NC ST?

To any NC State fans lurking, you should check out our ACC board here!

http://acc.csnbbs.com

(09-13-2016 06:51 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  What star player is Bruce Rader talking about not traveling to NC ST?

Kirtley.

(09-13-2016 07:27 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  To any NC State fans lurking, you should check out our ACC board here!

http://acc.csnbbs.com

Wolfprowl? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a bunch of loons.

(09-13-2016 10:03 PM)ODU DAD Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 06:51 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  What star player is Bruce Rader talking about not traveling to NC ST?

Kirtley.

hmm We already knew that, if so Bruce is doing a poor job reporting. I wouldnt consider Kirtley a star player.

(09-13-2016 10:23 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 10:03 PM)ODU DAD Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 06:51 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  What star player is Bruce Rader talking about not traveling to NC ST?

Kirtley.

hmm We already knew that, if so Bruce is doing a poor job reporting. I wouldnt consider Kirtley a star player.

Damn sure is one if we don't have anyone better lol

Sent from my SM-G928P using CSNbbs mobile app

Typical media manipulation, nothing else.

(09-14-2016 08:06 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Typical media manipulation, nothing else.

Rader is a few days late on reporting that news. All of us already knew we needed a kicker. When I heard it at the end of the 6 oclock news I was like crap who now is out. Most the time on here we already know the news before its reported.

Just listened to Dave Doeren radio show. Talked a lot about Lawry, calling him a "great tailback that we have to gang tackle." Said Washington, "is a good athlete, he will run on us and we have to contain him." Said the defense, "is better, they have a lot of same players, but they are a year older." In the end, 'we are playing a team with nothing to lose."

There doesn't seem to be a lot of talk about Saturday's game here so I figured I'd bump the thread. I just finished browsing around NC State's forums to get a feel for their team. What I found is that
1. Their kicking game is about as bad as ours is.
2. Their fans hate their coach.
3. They seem to think they will win but are not confident about that.
4. More doom and gloom then people have for our team.
5. They seem to think their defense is horrible?

I don't know how I feel about this game. We blew out Hampton then got blown out by App State. I haven't paid attention to NC State this year at all but I really don't have a clue about this game. If we lose, that will suck but if we win we get to say we beat our first ACC team at their house. But if we can't stop the run game again this week, I don't know if we can pull it off. I'm just going to hope for a win.

I promise I'm not doom and gloom about this team, I genuinely don't know where they stand haha

They should beat us pretty easily. I would feel better if they weren't knocked off by ECU last week so I'm sure they will be fired up. But, if we play really well and get a couple turnovers, it might be a game in the 2nd half.

The run game is the one part I'm sure we can stop. Actually, if the defense plays as well as they did in the 2nd-4th quarter against Appy then we have a 50/50 chance I think of winning. The offense MUST be more creative though.

How many 3-touchdown underdogs ever pull off the upset?

Our season starts next week. Hopefully these early games (App St and NC St) toughen us for what's the come.

(09-15-2016 08:28 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  How many 3-touchdown underdogs ever pull off the upset?

Our season starts next week. Hopefully these early games (App St and NC St) toughen us for what's the come.

Technically a 2 TD dog as they are favored by 20.

(09-15-2016 08:25 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  The run game is the one part I'm sure we can stop. Actually, if the defense plays as well as they did in the 2nd-4th quarter against Appy then we have a 50/50 chance I think of winning. The offense MUST be more creative though.

We can stop the run? Based on what, allowing App to run for 230 yards against us (which was 4.8 per carry including losses on sacks)? NC State has a better crop of running backs although maybe App has the best one and their Offensive Line coach was Apps last year. I just feel like we don't match up well with them and with their brutal schedule this year, I know they won't take us for granted.

(09-15-2016 08:17 AM)FTW ODU Wrote:  There doesn't seem to be a lot of talk about Saturday's game here so I figured I'd bump the thread. I just finished browsing around NC State's forums to get a feel for their team. What I found is that
1. Their kicking game is about as bad as ours is.
2. Their fans hate their coach.
3. They seem to think they will win but are not confident about that.
4. More doom and gloom then people have for our team.
5. They seem to think their defense is horrible?

I will bump this up as well.
The good news is that APP was the best defense we will see all year.
The bad news is that NC State likely has the best offense we will see all year (not yet sure about WKU)

The NC State up tempo spread offense is very balanced between the run and the pass, behind a large offensive line that averages 300 lbs.
Ryan Finney is at QB. He is a tall Boise State transfer who is both efficient and takes care of the ball. He spreads it out between three receivers but also likes to throw to the RBs out of the backfield.
They have a smallish but good RB in Matthew Dayes, who does most of the rushing. If his size is not a hindrance, we could see him on Sundays in the future,
They have a TE who blocks and will rush from the option.

The Wolfpack 4-3 defense is very stout against the run, with a massive DL that averages almost 300 lbs. Good vs the run, not so good with the pass rush. They did not record any sacks vs W&M or ECU
So far they have not been as good against the pass. DBs average around 6'
Special teams are at or below average, and they have a soph PK who wasn't good last year

We will likely not be able to run it up the gut against them; at all. Hopefully we can dink and dunk the passes down the field with an occasional long play. We likely need short passes over the middle, either crossing routes or to the RBs out of the backfield.

We will not, I repeat NOT, get anywhere with an inside handoff on third and long. We might as well pooch kick instead.

All in all I think that NC State will move the ball better than App, but we should be able to pass on them better, maybe much better, than we did on App.
The NC State 'equal opportunity' spread will be a challenge for the discipline of our defense.

NC State 45, ODU 21