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Inability to recruit the QB position
NIU obviously has talent and coaching issues across the board. But to me the most glaring is the lack of talent at QB. Coming off of 6 years of Harnish and Lynch, how have we not been able to get better athletes at the marquee position? Athletic kids should have been drooling over the opportunity to run our dual threat system. Hare was functional but was lifted by surrounding talent- before this year. Now with him done, no offense to Ryan Graham but he is not a D1 talent and there is nothing behind him.

Even when all else is crumbling, exciting solid QB play can keep a program interesting to a fan base and provide hope. With almost no talent there, the road back is gonna be a long and painful one.

I am in for the long haul , but it is going to be a Looooooooooong haul....
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(09-10-2016 08:58 PM)Big Z Wrote:  NIU obviously has talent and coaching issues across the board. But to me the most glaring is the lack of talent at QB. Coming off of 6 years of Harnish and Lynch, how have we not been able to get better athletes at the marquee position? Athletic kids should have been drooling over the opportunity to run our dual threat system. Hare was functional but was lifted by surrounding talent- before this year. Now with him done, no offense to Ryan Graham but he is not a D1 talent and there is nothing behind him.

Even when all else is crumbling, exciting solid QB play can keep a program interesting to a fan base and provide hope. With almost no talent there, the road back is gonna be a long and painful one.

I am in for the long haul , but it is going to be a Looooooooooong haul....

It's been obvious for a while that Carey isn't a good coach. What would make you think he's a good recruiter?
09-10-2016 09:00 PM
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RE: Inability to recruit the QB position
(09-10-2016 08:58 PM)Big Z Wrote:  NIU obviously has talent and coaching issues across the board. But to me the most glaring is the lack of talent at QB. Coming off of 6 years of Harnish and Lynch, how have we not been able to get better athletes at the marquee position? Athletic kids should have been drooling over the opportunity to run our dual threat system. Hare was functional but was lifted by surrounding talent- before this year. Now with him done, no offense to Ryan Graham but he is not a D1 talent and there is nothing behind him.

Even when all else is crumbling, exciting solid QB play can keep a program interesting to a fan base and provide hope. With almost no talent there, the road back is gonna be a long and painful one.

I am in for the long haul , but it is going to be a Looooooooooong haul....

Rod can't recruit any position. Are you watching?
09-10-2016 09:01 PM
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Well I suppose if we want to go the dual-threat quarterback route now we have the Tommy Mister option. But it has been a long time since he played QB and hew as a run first QB. Not saying it is a good idea, just throwing it out there
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I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them
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(09-10-2016 09:04 PM)Big Z Wrote:  I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them


This program has always had a problem selling itself. If you can't capitalize on that magnificent Orange Bowl hoopla, you ain't going nowhere.
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(09-10-2016 09:04 PM)Big Z Wrote:  I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them

It's a mid major program, so it's almost never going to sell itself. Every highcschool player things they're SEC talent. Also, I wouldn't trust any of the staff that he's hired either. Bottom line is, this is the year we should be seeing a big bump from the Orange Bowl appearance. Clearly that bump has turned into a gigantic sinkhole, and the blame for that sits clearly at Rod Carey's feet.
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(09-10-2016 09:09 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(09-10-2016 09:04 PM)Big Z Wrote:  I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them


This program has always had a problem selling itself. If you can't capitalize on that magnificent Orange Bowl hoopla, you ain't going nowhere.

Orange Bowl and new facilities should have been a big help in recruiting. Very surprising and very disappointing that it has not turned out that way.
09-10-2016 09:13 PM
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2017 class looks to be turning out OK. I just don't want Carey coaching any of them.
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(09-10-2016 09:10 PM)niu_1087 Wrote:  
(09-10-2016 09:04 PM)Big Z Wrote:  I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them

It's a mid major program, so it's almost never going to sell itself. Every highcschool player things they're SEC talent. Also, I wouldn't trust any of the staff that he's hired either. Bottom line is, this is the year we should be seeing a big bump from the Orange Bowl appearance. Clearly that bump has turned into a gigantic sinkhole, and the blame for that sits clearly at Rod Carey's feet.

True. The upperclassmen are post Orange Bowl. I keep smh about the QB's. How could that have been so glaringly whiffed on year after year?
09-10-2016 09:23 PM
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(09-10-2016 09:23 PM)Big Z Wrote:  
(09-10-2016 09:10 PM)niu_1087 Wrote:  
(09-10-2016 09:04 PM)Big Z Wrote:  I would have thought the program could have sold itself at that point. He can't be that big of a bag in a recruits home, can he? Plus other recruiting coordinators should really hook them

It's a mid major program, so it's almost never going to sell itself. Every highschool player things they're SEC talent. Also, I wouldn't trust any of the staff that he's hired either. Bottom line is, this is the year we should be seeing a big bump from the Orange Bowl appearance. Clearly that bump has turned into a gigantic sinkhole, and the blame for that sits clearly at Rod Carey's feet.

True. The upperclassmen are post Orange Bowl. I keep smh about the QB's. How could that have been so glaringly whiffed on year after year?

It's beyond me, especially after we've had such exceptional QB play between Harnish, Lynch and even Hare's first year. Maybe they got Chip Kelly syndrome, and put more emphasis on the "system" (jet sweeps and bubble screens) than the actual players.
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(09-10-2016 09:21 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  2017 class looks to be turning out OK. I just don't want Carey coaching any of them.

How many of them will honor their verbal commitment if we have a terrible season?
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You can fall off the mountain a heck of alot faster that you climbed in. This program is in jeopardy of a free fall back to the late 90's
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What has happened after the Orange Bowl has made us a complete failure as a football program and university. No other school in that position would have messed up the golden opportunity they had. We blew it.


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(09-12-2016 06:44 AM)HuskiesCHI27 Wrote:  What has happened after the Orange Bowl has made us a complete failure as a football program and university. No other school in that position would have messed up the golden opportunity they had. We blew it.


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Oh, come on. It's way worse than that. I say it's an indictment of our entire educational system 07-coffee3
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Where's Childers on the depth chart?

Might as well see what he can do
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Quarterback is not the biggest issue. Lack of pass rush is. We get no push and speed guys can't get around the blockers
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(09-12-2016 08:31 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Quarterback is not the biggest issue. Lack of pass rush is. We get no push and speed guys can't get around the blockers
Agreed 100%. I think we have 0 takeaways after 2 games and I don't recall a sack in either game either.

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