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(09-07-2016 09:20 AM)michaelf Wrote:  US News 2016 Rankings Public Universities, Candidate Schools:

Connecticut #19 (WoW)

Colorado State #127

Cincinnati #140

Houston #156

Central Florida #168

Houston 187

Schools Not Included

Temple #115

Memphis (Ranking Not Published)

Academics excuse is partly a sham because Temple rates higher than the rest of the candidates except UCONN, they want who they want, plain and simple.

Just want to point out that UConn's ranking is 57. 19 is among public universities.
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(09-08-2016 01:18 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Our psychology and math departments are regionally renowned as well.

Not that I ever took one class in either, lol, but you know. Word on the street.

We have a top 10 combinatorics program because the work Dr. Ralph Faudree and Dr. Béla Bollobás did here.

Faudree was always more qualified than Raines to run the University. It's a shame he didn't get the more of a chance.
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I hate it when people don't get the more of a chance.
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(09-07-2016 11:36 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Yes, but it's a balancing act. You have to go slowly. If Memphis raises its ACT requirements from 21 to say, 26, enrollment levels will plummet. maybe as much as 50% on a move like that. We can not take that kind of financial hit. I guess the good thing about it would be you are only talking about roughly 1/6th of total enrollment. Like, next year's freshman class would be 3000 kids instead of 6000, yielding a total enrollment of 19,000 instead of the expected 22,000.

The thing is, we just got our own Board of Regents this year. We will be making even more improvements like these being discussed because of it. I'm sure Dr. Rudd made the BXII aware of this, but the BXII is worried about perception NOW. Not in 2 or 3 years. Which is a shame.

FYI, Memphis Fall Semester Freshmen Class is around 2,000 or so (plus another 1,300 transfers that are not first semester college students).

http://oir.memphis.edu/WebReports/Profil...5_2016.pdf

Don't think Memphis has ever had a Freshmen Class close to 6,000.

NOTE: Some Freshmen do enroll in summer semester and even a few enroll come Jan (very small number).
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2017 rankings are out... surprise, surprise, no Memphis... But looking at the list of "ranked" schools, just shows that the list is crap. I think I heard Caulkins say that the list is mostly subjective? That they basically send a survey out to all college presidents (similar to a coaches poll?) and that has a heavier weight than just about anything else? Im not sure if I heard that correctly.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings

At least we have a ranked business & engineering school.
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(09-13-2016 10:36 AM)muffinman Wrote:  2017 rankings are out... surprise, surprise, no Memphis... But looking at the list of "ranked" schools, just shows that the list is crap. I think I heard Caulkins say that the list is mostly subjective? That they basically send a survey out to all college presidents (similar to a coaches poll?) and that has a heavier weight than just about anything else? Im not sure if I heard that correctly.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings

At least we have a ranked business & engineering school.

The state of Tennessee now has a second Tier 1 public school - Tennessee Tech made it at #220.. Remember back in the day when WE were the flagship of the Board of Regents schools.03-weeping
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(09-13-2016 06:38 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(09-07-2016 11:36 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Yes, but it's a balancing act. You have to go slowly. If Memphis raises its ACT requirements from 21 to say, 26, enrollment levels will plummet. maybe as much as 50% on a move like that. We can not take that kind of financial hit. I guess the good thing about it would be you are only talking about roughly 1/6th of total enrollment. Like, next year's freshman class would be 3000 kids instead of 6000, yielding a total enrollment of 19,000 instead of the expected 22,000.

The thing is, we just got our own Board of Regents this year. We will be making even more improvements like these being discussed because of it. I'm sure Dr. Rudd made the BXII aware of this, but the BXII is worried about perception NOW. Not in 2 or 3 years. Which is a shame.

FYI, Memphis Fall Semester Freshmen Class is around 2,000 or so (plus another 1,300 transfers that are not first semester college students).

http://oir.memphis.edu/WebReports/Profil...5_2016.pdf

Don't think Memphis has ever had a Freshmen Class close to 6,000.

NOTE: Some Freshmen do enroll in summer semester and even a few enroll come Jan (very small number).

Hmmm... I guess I need to go back to math class.

By your calculations, the same people that enrolled in 1912 are still trying to graduate.
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(09-13-2016 10:36 AM)muffinman Wrote:  2017 rankings are out... surprise, surprise, no Memphis... But looking at the list of "ranked" schools, just shows that the list is crap. I think I heard Caulkins say that the list is mostly subjective? That they basically send a survey out to all college presidents (similar to a coaches poll?) and that has a heavier weight than just about anything else? Im not sure if I heard that correctly.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings

At least we have a ranked business & engineering school.

I checked their 2017 methodology and it appears unchanged from prior years.

At 22.5%, the survey of academic reputation is tied for the highest weight in their calculation. The remaining 77.5% are various metrics usually composed of multiple factors.

Undergraduate academic reputation (22.5 percent)
Graduation and retention rates (22.5 percent)
Faculty resources (20 percent)
Student selectivity (12.5 percent)
Financial resources (10 percent)
Graduation rate performance (7.5 percent)
Alumni giving rate (5 percent)
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(09-13-2016 01:30 PM)jamgut Wrote:  
(09-13-2016 10:36 AM)muffinman Wrote:  2017 rankings are out... surprise, surprise, no Memphis... But looking at the list of "ranked" schools, just shows that the list is crap. I think I heard Caulkins say that the list is mostly subjective? That they basically send a survey out to all college presidents (similar to a coaches poll?) and that has a heavier weight than just about anything else? Im not sure if I heard that correctly.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...l-rankings

At least we have a ranked business & engineering school.

The state of Tennessee now has a second Tier 1 public school - Tennessee Tech made it at #220.. Remember back in the day when WE were the flagship of the Board of Regents schools.03-weeping

Its amazing isnt it?

Nothing against Tennessee Tech (#220) and Union University(#169), but I don't think of them as academic powerhouses or "National Universities".
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Good article on how most academics actually view rankings...

http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/9/206...l/fulltext
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Sorry to resurrect a thread from several days ago, but:


The University of Memphis will soon have its own Board of Trustees, marking a critical step forward in a very proud history. In anticipation of this transition, we will initiate a new strategic planning effort involving our entire campus community. As you know, our strategic planning efforts have been driven by the Tennessee Board of Regents to date. Current and future infrastructure investments, both on campus and in our neighborhood district, have us well positioned for the next decade and beyond. Our transition to an independent Board of Trustees provides a unique opportunity to continue our very positive trajectory. We have never been in a better position to continue to grow in quality and impact, both local and nationally. This coming legislative session we will be pursuing an agenda to move the UofM from a Carnegie II to a Carnegie I institution, advancing our efforts to establish the University of Memphis as a national research university.

In the coming months, we will be sharing more details and materials about the strategic planning process, UofM 2027, that will help guide our University community for the next decade. We need to engage every corner of our University community, including students, staff, faculty and alumni. I look forward to moving this process forward in the coming weeks. Go Tigers!

Warm Regards,

M. David Rudd
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US News is the most frequently mentioned ranking service, but their basis for rankings is not off academics alone. Certain annual rankings, like the Shanghai World University ranking, ranks schools just on academics alone. I personally like Forbes Rankings over US News anyway. They rank more on output than input. US News looks at high school rankings of students accepted at colleges, and their ACT/SAT scores, etc. Forbes doesn't weigh what some kid scored on his ACT (that might have taken a timed version of this test on numerous occasions). In addition to the academic side, they look at what a student gets out of college. This includes things such as post graduate success, and student satisfaction ratings. Memphis is not ranked overall in national rankings of US News, but they are ranked in the business school and engineering schools comparisons. To give you an idea of how Memphis compares to other schools in the Big 12 in the Forbes annual ranking of best colleges, Memphis is ranked #588 out of about 1300+ schools. Note that Forbes lumps all colleges together in their ranking, whether DI, D2, D3, or NAIA, as well as whether you are a liberal arts school or national university. The two lowest ranked schools currently in the Big 12 according to Forbes are Texas Tech at #380, and West Virginia at #412. Just to add, the two lowest ranked schools in the SEC by Forbes are Ole Miss and MS State, which are both in the 300-400 range. Just about every other school in a P5 conference is ranked among the top 20% of all the schools combined, based on their criteria. Memphis has some work to do to have the national perception of our academics change.
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Tangent question...Definitely not the best thread for it...But something that I've been wondering recently.

How plugged in is Nike to the program these days? They've made significant investment in the city with the new DC. Largest Nike investment outside of the state of Oregon. Are we seeing that high level of support at the university? We had them strategically in basketball with Cal. But what about the overall program - and the new strategic investment in football.
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(09-19-2016 04:00 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  Sorry to resurrect a thread from several days ago, but:


The University of Memphis will soon have its own Board of Trustees, marking a critical step forward in a very proud history. In anticipation of this transition, we will initiate a new strategic planning effort involving our entire campus community. As you know, our strategic planning efforts have been driven by the Tennessee Board of Regents to date. Current and future infrastructure investments, both on campus and in our neighborhood district, have us well positioned for the next decade and beyond. Our transition to an independent Board of Trustees provides a unique opportunity to continue our very positive trajectory. We have never been in a better position to continue to grow in quality and impact, both local and nationally. This coming legislative session we will be pursuing an agenda to move the UofM from a Carnegie II to a Carnegie I institution, advancing our efforts to establish the University of Memphis as a national research university.

In the coming months, we will be sharing more details and materials about the strategic planning process, UofM 2027, that will help guide our University community for the next decade. We need to engage every corner of our University community, including students, staff, faculty and alumni. I look forward to moving this process forward in the coming weeks. Go Tigers!

Warm Regards,

M. David Rudd
President | Distinguished University Professor

TCU was Carnegie III until this year and got in. BYU is Carnegie II. They only seem to care about a certain type of undergraduate academics.

But I trust in Rudd and Martin. We are going to be fine.
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