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RE: Laughable Scores 2016 - Week 1
It was not the most fun game of the weekend like I expected but a great one nonetheless.
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RE: Laughable Scores 2016 - Week 1
(09-05-2016 11:25 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was not the most fun game of the weekend like I expected but a great one nonetheless.

that's more how crazy some of the others were imo.

just a great opening weekend.

now waiting for week 3....
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(09-05-2016 11:01 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Pretty terrible defense on both sides
For the first half, I would agree about FSU.

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(09-03-2016 06:02 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  #5 LSU 14
Wisconsin 16
Final

Wisconsin is #10 and beat LSU by 2 points in Wisconsin... Not laughable 07-coffee3
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RE: Laughable Scores 2016 - Week 1
(09-06-2016 11:46 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 11:01 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Pretty terrible defense on both sides
For the first half, I would agree about FSU.

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The difference was Jimbo Fisher and his staff. They made adjustments. Freeze and his staff didn't. The next biggest factor was turnovers. When the ball hit the ground for F.S.U. it truly did bounce the right way for them. The two quick 2nd half turnovers from the Rebs turned the emotional tide of the game. But the defense of F.S.U. in the 2nd half was due mostly to stunt changes and slot alignment adjustments. Kudos to FSU coaching.

There are two major differences between championship coaching and good coaching.

1. Champions teach their kids the correct techniques and proper fundamentals at all positions and for all circumstances. Good coaches brush some of these up for starters but don't spend the time necessary to teach it to the 2nd string let alone the whole squad.

2. Championship coaches make adjustments all during the games. They are aware of what the opposition is doing on the plays that fail. Bryant and now Saban could/can make adjustments during a 3 minute time out. They could change schemes at the half. Good coaches make some changes at the half and have little ability to recognize, diagnose, and alter play in real time and would be extremely challenged in communicating those changes during a timeout.

Fisher changed defensive schemes and alignments at halftime. Freeze could not recognize, diagnose, and change during the 2nd half. Freeze is good enough to prepare an excellent game plan (witness the first half). Jimbo's flexible and adaptable nature was FSU's edge just as it was against Auburn in the NCG. Remember F.S.U. began turning things around by the middle of the 2nd quarter last night.

Webster's injury hurt Ole Miss, but he was one man in an atrocious secondary. Also Fisher's staff changed the offensive blocking schemes in the 2nd half. You didn't see as many Ole Miss pressures or sacks. The roll out was used more often and more effectively. They identified the tendency of the left DE of Ole Miss to over commit or over pursue and they exploited it. This wasn't an accident.

Right now the SEC is trending down because of coaching.

Butch Jones doesn't school fundamentals. Mark Tennessee down.

Malzahn is so uni-focused that he doesn't see what's right before him. He'll never win big again at Auburn. He has one style and the league now knows how to stop it.

Freeze's weakness was just explained. It's not that Ole Miss can't finish it's that Freeze can't make adjustments on the fly.

Missouri's deficits are in recruiting more than coaching.

Mason doesn't understand offense as well as he does defense. Therefore he has a hard time picking a good O.C.

Muschamp is disorganized and is not a disciplinarian.

Florida is too early to call.

Mullen stayed to long at a building job. He's a good coach.

Bielema will be alright.

Les Miles checked out a couple of years ago but he has what it takes.
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(09-05-2016 11:25 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was not the most fun game of the weekend like I expected but a great one nonetheless.

I had that same feeling during the game. It was certainly interesting, and sometimes even compelling. But it didn't feel like as much fun as the UT-Notre Dame game was for me. I can't put my finger on why I felt that way. But feel it I did. My reaction was: this is why I love college football.
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(09-06-2016 05:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 11:46 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 11:01 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Pretty terrible defense on both sides
For the first half, I would agree about FSU.

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The difference was Jimbo Fisher and his staff. They made adjustments. Freeze and his staff didn't. The next biggest factor was turnovers. When the ball hit the ground for F.S.U. it truly did bounce the right way for them. The two quick 2nd half turnovers from the Rebs turned the emotional tide of the game. But the defense of F.S.U. in the 2nd half was due mostly to stunt changes and slot alignment adjustments. Kudos to FSU coaching.

There are two major differences between championship coaching and good coaching.

1. Champions teach their kids the correct techniques and proper fundamentals at all positions and for all circumstances. Good coaches brush some of these up for starters but don't spend the time necessary to teach it to the 2nd string let alone the whole squad.

2. Championship coaches make adjustments all during the games. They are aware of what the opposition is doing on the plays that fail. Bryant and now Saban could/can make adjustments during a 3 minute time out. They could change schemes at the half. Good coaches make some changes at the half and have little ability to recognize, diagnose, and alter play in real time and would be extremely challenged in communicating those changes during a timeout.

Fisher changed defensive schemes and alignments at halftime. Freeze could not recognize, diagnose, and change during the 2nd half. Freeze is good enough to prepare an excellent game plan (witness the first half). Jimbo's flexible and adaptable nature was FSU's edge just as it was against Auburn in the NCG. Remember F.S.U. began turning things around by the middle of the 2nd quarter last night.

Webster's injury hurt Ole Miss, but he was one man in an atrocious secondary. Also Fisher's staff changed the offensive blocking schemes in the 2nd half. You didn't see as many Ole Miss pressures or sacks. The roll out was used more often and more effectively. They identified the tendency of the left DE of Ole Miss to over commit or over pursue and they exploited it. This wasn't an accident.

Right now the SEC is trending down because of coaching.

Butch Jones doesn't school fundamentals. Mark Tennessee down.

Malzahn is so uni-focused that he doesn't see what's right before him. He'll never win big again at Auburn. He has one style and the league now knows how to stop it.

Freeze's weakness was just explained. It's not that Ole Miss can't finish it's that Freeze can't make adjustments on the fly.

Missouri's deficits are in recruiting more than coaching.

Mason doesn't understand offense as well as he does defense. Therefore he has a hard time picking a good O.C.

Muschamp is disorganized and is not a disciplinarian.

Florida is too early to call.

Mullen stayed to long at a building job. He's a good coach.

Bielema will be alright.

Les Miles checked out a couple of years ago but he has what it takes.


Bielema would be out if he keeps losing to G5 schools. He almost lost to La. Tech, and did lose to Toledo.
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(09-05-2016 11:25 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was not the most fun game of the weekend like I expected but a great one nonetheless.
It was a delightfully fun game.

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(09-06-2016 05:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-06-2016 11:46 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 11:01 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Pretty terrible defense on both sides
For the first half, I would agree about FSU.

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The difference was Jimbo Fisher and his staff. They made adjustments. Freeze and his staff didn't. The next biggest factor was turnovers. When the ball hit the ground for F.S.U. it truly did bounce the right way for them. The two quick 2nd half turnovers from the Rebs turned the emotional tide of the game. But the defense of F.S.U. in the 2nd half was due mostly to stunt changes and slot alignment adjustments. Kudos to FSU coaching.

There are two major differences between championship coaching and good coaching.

1. Champions teach their kids the correct techniques and proper fundamentals at all positions and for all circumstances. Good coaches brush some of these up for starters but don't spend the time necessary to teach it to the 2nd string let alone the whole squad.

2. Championship coaches make adjustments all during the games. They are aware of what the opposition is doing on the plays that fail. Bryant and now Saban could/can make adjustments during a 3 minute time out. They could change schemes at the half. Good coaches make some changes at the half and have little ability to recognize, diagnose, and alter play in real time and would be extremely challenged in communicating those changes during a timeout.

Fisher changed defensive schemes and alignments at halftime. Freeze could not recognize, diagnose, and change during the 2nd half. Freeze is good enough to prepare an excellent game plan (witness the first half). Jimbo's flexible and adaptable nature was FSU's edge just as it was against Auburn in the NCG. Remember F.S.U. began turning things around by the middle of the 2nd quarter last night.

Webster's injury hurt Ole Miss, but he was one man in an atrocious secondary. Also Fisher's staff changed the offensive blocking schemes in the 2nd half. You didn't see as many Ole Miss pressures or sacks. The roll out was used more often and more effectively. They identified the tendency of the left DE of Ole Miss to over commit or over pursue and they exploited it. This wasn't an accident.

Right now the SEC is trending down because of coaching.

Butch Jones doesn't school fundamentals. Mark Tennessee down.

Malzahn is so uni-focused that he doesn't see what's right before him. He'll never win big again at Auburn. He has one style and the league now knows how to stop it.

Freeze's weakness was just explained. It's not that Ole Miss can't finish it's that Freeze can't make adjustments on the fly.

Missouri's deficits are in recruiting more than coaching.

Mason doesn't understand offense as well as he does defense. Therefore he has a hard time picking a good O.C.

Muschamp is disorganized and is not a disciplinarian.

Florida is too early to call.

Mullen stayed to long at a building job. He's a good coach.

Bielema will be alright.

Les Miles checked out a couple of years ago but he has what it takes.

I like your assessment JR and I agree that the level at which some of the coaches in the SEC are coaching at is down. A couple things I would add is, 1st everything is cyclical. We all knew that the levels the SEC as a whole had performed at over the past decade couldn't be sustained forever. Also I think the game has changed a little, those crazy wild offenses that Chip Kelly was running at Oregon are the norm now and not the exception. The SEC was based on big, long, mauling D's that broke your will, and then ran up the score when your offense couldn't get a 1st down. Now these D's are getting spread out bye 5 wide receiver sets that dink and dunk there way down the field, only take a shot when they start grabbing their hips, that has been one of the keys to beating SEC defenses. Saban has seen that and has countered by bringing in coaches like Lane K. Who think in those terms and have turned what was once a pretty vanilla offense into a juggernaut that can score lots of points to combat today's high octane Os that can score on his Alabama's D. You don't have to look any further than last year's national championship to see that. Clemson put up some good number's on that Alabama D. The reason they won was because of the tide offense. That's why Saban is the best coach in college football and why Alabama will continue to be successful, adaptability. The rest of the SEC coaches should take notes otherwise the conference may continue to slide. Take heart though, because with the wealth of talent in the south you will never be a bad conference 04-cheers
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I can certain see how all the pressure, time commitment, constant intensity, dealing with admin/boosters/parents (especially former players)/players acting out/etc. just grinds you down to a stump over the years.

Definitely can see how some coaches just lose the passion that it takes ...
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