I live in Pensacola and from my point of view, UWF does not have Division I facilities. They have a long term master plan, but right now they play basketball in a high school gym. http://goargos.com/sports/2014/12/14/GEN...40213.aspx

They do not have an on campus football stadium. They play downtown on a baseball field. While it is a nice view and location, it is 10 miles from campus and not a true football stadium. Hard to get students interested in a game that far from campus.
http://goargos.com/sports/2014/12/14/FB_1214145051.aspx

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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What is a peer institution?

Is Coastal Carolina a peer institution to Ga State?

(02-07-2017 09:16 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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What is a peer institution?

Is Coastal Carolina a peer institution to Ga State?

No and I wouldnt have added them and maybe that is the point. Maybe you're right and the SBC in 5 years will have all of those little Div II schools you love. I do not see GSU in that conference. Hopefully you dont see USA there either for your program's sake.

(02-07-2017 10:09 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 09:16 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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What is a peer institution?

Is Coastal Carolina a peer institution to Ga State?

No and I wouldnt have added them and maybe that is the point. Maybe you're right and the SBC in 5 years will have all of those little Div II schools you love. I do not see GSU in that conference. Hopefully you dont see USA there either for your program's sake.

No, we are not a peer. We've only had one losing season in football and have been playing longer.

(02-07-2017 10:09 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 09:16 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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What is a peer institution?

Is Coastal Carolina a peer institution to Ga State?

No and I wouldnt have added them and maybe that is the point. Maybe you're right and the SBC in 5 years will have all of those little Div II schools you love. I do not see GSU in that conference. Hopefully you dont see USA there either for your program's sake.

It really doesn't matter what FJ says. There is a zero percent chance that UWF and USA will be playing in the same conference in the next 10 years.

Wake Forest?

(02-07-2017 05:15 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Wake Forest?

No, apparently there is a school called Western Florida that plays basketball in a high school gym, and football on a baseball field 10 miles away from their campus. I learned that from this thread. The OP kind of reminds me of a DavidSt. He brings up schools you've never heard of, and just throws them out there as possible FBS additions. One of the posts mentioned a $100,000 donation given to the school by a local attorney. It's amazing what you can learn from this threads. Arkansas Tech, Western Florida...Southeastmiddlesouthcarolina Tech.

Cheers!

(02-07-2017 05:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 05:15 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Wake Forest?

No, apparently there is a school called Western Florida that plays basketball in a high school gym, and football on a baseball field 10 miles away from their campus. I learned that from this thread. The OP kind of reminds me of a DavidSt. He brings up schools you've never heard of, and just throws them out there as possible FBS additions. One of the posts mentioned a $100,000 donation given to the school by a local attorney. It's amazing what you can learn from this threads. Arkansas Tech, Western Florida...Southeastmiddlesouthcarolina Tech.

Cheers!

Hey, don't include Arkansas Tech on a list of silly made-up school names. We have been a real school for over 100 years and have 2 national titles. Yes I am from ATU and no I do not know DavidSt. I disagree with all he says and the only reason I read his posts is for the laughter.

And it's actually West Florida. I can't believe this tread is still going after 5 months and 27 pages.

(02-07-2017 08:26 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 05:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 05:15 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Wake Forest?

No, apparently there is a school called Western Florida that plays basketball in a high school gym, and football on a baseball field 10 miles away from their campus. I learned that from this thread. The OP kind of reminds me of a DavidSt. He brings up schools you've never heard of, and just throws them out there as possible FBS additions. One of the posts mentioned a $100,000 donation given to the school by a local attorney. It's amazing what you can learn from this threads. Arkansas Tech, Western Florida...Southeastmiddlesouthcarolina Tech.

Cheers!

Hey, don't include Arkansas Tech on a list of silly made-up school names. We have been a real school for over 100 years and have 2 national titles. Yes I am from ATU and no I do not know DavidSt. I disagree with all he says and the only reason I read his posts is for the laughter.

And it's actually West Florida. I can't believe this tread is still going after 5 months and 27 pages.

Sorry bro...no offense meant. Joking around.
Cheers!

(02-07-2017 08:53 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:26 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 05:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 05:15 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Wake Forest?

No, apparently there is a school called Western Florida that plays basketball in a high school gym, and football on a baseball field 10 miles away from their campus. I learned that from this thread. The OP kind of reminds me of a DavidSt. He brings up schools you've never heard of, and just throws them out there as possible FBS additions. One of the posts mentioned a $100,000 donation given to the school by a local attorney. It's amazing what you can learn from this threads. Arkansas Tech, Western Florida...Southeastmiddlesouthcarolina Tech.

Cheers!

Hey, don't include Arkansas Tech on a list of silly made-up school names. We have been a real school for over 100 years and have 2 national titles. Yes I am from ATU and no I do not know DavidSt. I disagree with all he says and the only reason I read his posts is for the laughter.

And it's actually West Florida. I can't believe this tread is still going after 5 months and 27 pages.

Sorry bro...no offense meant. Joking around.
Cheers!

Oh I know it was a joke, no need for sorry and not offended at all. I'm just happy to see the name of my little school mentioned so much here. Reading this board is my comic relief, especially when it's suggested that any Arkansas school should move up a division.

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF. Or USM.

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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(02-08-2017 10:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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No need, he's just

(02-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 10:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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No need, he's just

Please explain why Coastal is such a better pick than Kennesaw State or UWF?

(02-09-2017 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 10:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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No need, he's just

Please explain why Coastal is such a better pick than Kennesaw State or UWF?

That's a great question for the presidents of the Sun Belt that invited and voted Coastal in.

Anyway, my comment was in response to the statement that Georgia State needs KSU as a rival ... they don't.

(02-09-2017 11:33 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 10:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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No need, he's just

Please explain why Coastal is such a better pick than Kennesaw State or UWF?

That's a great question for the presidents of the Sun Belt that invited and voted Coastal in.

Anyway, my comment was in response to the statement that Georgia State needs KSU as a rival ... they don't.

A KSU / Ga State football rivalry will be garner great attention and support from the Atlanta metro area.

(02-08-2017 10:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:22 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:16 PM)ChooChoo Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:58 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 08:36 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  It's 70 miles from USA to UWF; 58 miles from Mobile to Pensacola.
We're talking an hour here. You really think most of the coaches, admins, and fans want to deal with Florida competition, in conference, so close to their wheelhouse and recruitment base?
It's the rationale for adding Kennesaw St, why dilute and potentially harm a conf member's advantages by adding another school in their backyard?
A pipe dream I could understand is wanting UNF to add football in Jax. They're an established DI school that would be alone in their market and would get us in to FLA. But honestly, at this point, why go into FLA at all if we can all recruit it without a hometeam getting the advantage?

I want to know if FJ sees those schools as peer institutions to USA.


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Sorry, that was directed towards FJ, not you. I know you know all that. I know he knows all that. Which is why I'm dumbfounded why he'd want to prop up a new team from another division in his own backyard.

USA has never been in the same conference as UWF AFAIK during their existences. Would be interesting if USA was in the same conference as UWF and USM. Those rivalries would be intense. USM doesnt want USA in their conference either.

Ga St needs a Kennesaw St rival too.

LMAO...why pray tell do we need Kennesaw State?

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Gotta agree with you here. That is like saying North Dakota needs Minot State as a rival.