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Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
This is from Tim Staudt's column in Sunday's Lansing State Journal...the day after WMU beat NU in Evanston:

PREGAME NOTES: The official Furman pregame press notes for Friday’s game against Michigan State were very complete. Included was the money Furman received for playing the game — $655,000. Mid American Conference teams command $1 million fees for such games these days and they’re overpaid. They rarely win against Big Ten teams and they sell few tickets to their own fans. Furman didn’t bring many fans this weekend to town but the Paladins were a cheaper investment than what a MAC school would have demanded.

It does not matter how often MAC teams beat Pig 10 teams - it happens several times every year - or even how often a MAC player is selected in the first round of the NFL draft, Pig 10 slappies still think we are DII-type programs.

Ignorance and arrogance personified.
09-06-2016 06:29 AM
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
Doesn't matter, the conference has told schools to stop scheduling FCS opponents because of new nine-game league schedule and SOS needed to make playoffs.

So they will still need games against MAC teams unless they're going to play all P5s OOC (unlikely). Also unlikely AAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, MWC teams will settle for less guarantee or bring more fans.
09-06-2016 06:45 AM
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(09-06-2016 06:45 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Doesn't matter, the conference has told schools to stop scheduling FCS opponents because of new nine-game league schedule and SOS needed to make playoffs.

So they will still need games against MAC teams unless they're going to play all P5s OOC (unlikely). Also unlikely AAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, MWC teams will settle for less guarantee or bring more fans.

Exactly Major.

Also you can only count 1 win against FCS for bowl eligibility. Unless the another G6 conference starts undercutting costs. Highly unlikely since they need the money just as bad. The guy is a complete moron for bringing it up because it is impossible to do. They will have to play 2 or 3 P5/G6 schools every year. Deal with it.
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
At least this isn't coming from the Big 10 HQ.

Nowhere does it state that the MAC is DII, Furman is DII, or that Furman plays in the MAC. The funny thing is, the guy seems to be saying he'd rather have the Big 10 play FCS teams then the MAC. And, whether we like it or not, the MAC more often then not loses to the Big 10.

Also CMU and WMU vs UofM/MSU generally sell pretty good.

Still what scares me is if/when the Big 10 decides not to play the MAC anymore. And articles like this just convince people that Big 10 really is another league.
09-06-2016 04:33 PM
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
Staudt has been a Sparty slappie for half a century. Duffy Daugherty, Daryl Rogers, Denny Stoltz and Muddy Waters are some of his contemporaries. Take what he says with a gigantic grain of green salt!
09-06-2016 04:55 PM
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
Was the $655k SPLITTING the home revenue, the same as they'd pay Rutgers if they visited -- where $1m would be too much? If yes, I understand the concern.

But with FBS mid-majors, where you're going to have them in your house every time to keep your home/away ratio high while playing a fully qualified scheduled team -- yeah, Guarantee a good amount of $$ in doing so.

BUT, to be fair, I wouldn't say $1 million, necessarily. I can only see the hubbub if it's spending More money than they would on any fellow B1G teams playing that week. Otherwise, no reason to complain.

Just because you can get away with paying out LESS to an FCS, IMO, doesn't mean that's the way it should be - lol. I'm sure you could pay less to a D2, why ask for a rule change and just do that?
09-06-2016 05:10 PM
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
what was WMUs payout from last weekend?
09-06-2016 08:26 PM
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http://www.insidenu.com/2016/6/7/1187710...son-opener

Quote:We previously reported that Northwestern and Nevada were scheduled for September 16th of 2017. Of course, the real story was that Northwestern was paying the eye-watering sum of $1.2 million to Nevada in order to get them to Evanston.

So I would say since the original post said MAC teams require $1m per game -- we probably got $1m.
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(09-06-2016 06:45 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Doesn't matter, the conference has told schools to stop scheduling FCS opponents because of new nine-game league schedule and SOS needed to make playoffs.

So they will still need games against MAC teams unless they're going to play all P5s OOC (unlikely). Also unlikely AAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, MWC teams will settle for less guarantee or bring more fans.

I actually found one P5 school that will have an all P5 schedule. tOSU has Boston College, Texas, and @ND in 2023. Then they will have 9 conference games. We'll see if this schedule holds.
Link http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/...ckeyes.php
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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
Tim Staudt's head is so ******* full of MSU-branded helium that it's physically sickening. Going to laugh in his stupid face when Western goes to EL and wins next year.
09-07-2016 01:32 PM
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(09-07-2016 01:32 PM)wingsenforcer Wrote:  Tim Staudt's head is so ******* full of MSU-branded helium that it's physically sickening. Going to laugh in his stupid face when Western goes to EL and wins next year.

If we were to be so fortunate to have that happen, the Staudt and the Sparty Slappies still would not give WMU any credit. It would be ALL about how MSU overlooked WMU, or played down to their opponent, or made too many mistakes, or had bad officiating.

That's what always happens when MSU loses, unless it is a blow-out, like last year's glorious game against Alabama. They seldom give credit to their opponent, particularly if that opponent is from a perceived "inferior" conference.

What would be wonderful, THIS fall is if Northwestern beat MSU and/or U-M!

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RE: Another reason to not support Pig 10 teams...
I agree. CMU had to beat MSU twice in a row (91-92) before there was grudging acknowledgment from some of the Sparties. After the first win, it was all about how they took us too lightly and they were going to steamroll us the next fall. 01-wingedeagle
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(09-07-2016 02:50 PM)CMichFan Wrote:  I agree. CMU had to beat MSU twice in a row (91-92) before there was grudging acknowledgment from some of the Sparties. After the first win, it was all about how they took us too lightly and they were going to steamroll us the next fall. 01-wingedeagle

I remember!

Thanks for posting.

After the 2009 game, Sparty Slappies blamed the penalty on the missed field goal saying that was the only reason MSU lost - no credit to CMU. However, they ignored that CMU also had errors, such as a penalty that called back a touchdown. CMU never should have been playing from behind in the 4th quarter when you look at how it dominated the stats.

Your Chippewas were the better team that day, that year, but Sparty Slappies will never admit it.

Likewise, when WMU whipped UM in basketball for several years, it was all about how down UM was. No credit to WMU.

No respect in East Lansing, or Ann Arbor, for either of our schools overall or our athletic programs, in particular.

GO MAC! Beat Okie State, brother, and make our entire conference look good! 04-rock
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