(09-05-2016 09:43 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 04:09 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 01:01 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 12:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Great post. I just fear the time to fix the problems was last year. IMO Carey started to lose this team after the non conference season last year

Agreed. There is something about Carey that does not mesh with the team. WMU would walk through walls for their screwball coach. Would the Huskies do that for Carey?

Also agreeing. The team walked out on Carey before the last bowl game and that was covered up, downplayed, and now seemingly painted over. But I don't believe the players have truly forgotten, meaning he has not "won them back."
Later in the Wyoming game, he's in the middle of the huddle, continuously turning to make eye contact with the players, but at one point one of the players is rolling his eyes when Carey has his back turned to him.

I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

I kinda think the same thing because usually there's one person that will post something they shouldn't on Twitter or FB. If it is true I would love to actually find out.

It happened. I've been in classes with a few players and last semester one of them told me and a couple other guys a little about it.

What did STF know and when did he know it? If the team quit on him at the bowl game the time to address it was in the off season. I watched the game and parts of it twice. I did NOT see a lack of effort just an undisciplined team ( and crappy reffing). I don't believe they quit on him. Poor play calling, yes. Bad TO usage again, yes. This is the wrong time to ask for a new coach.

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He should not have been given the job post Orange Bowl.

(09-06-2016 09:30 AM)HuskiesCHI27 Wrote:  He should not have been given the job post Orange Bowl.

Bingo!

Thank the same AD that gave us a home and home with Idaho for this decision.

(09-05-2016 10:11 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Raise your hand if you're sick and tired of seeing Bouagnon running into the LOS for no gain all game.

[raises hand]

Sounds like the general feeling on the board is split down the middle between Carey has lost his players and the other side, its just a matter of execution.

I really believe after watching this thing the past 2 years that the issues are fairly deep-seeded. Most of NIU's flaws, conservative play calling, soft coverage, etc are a result of low confidence and not having conviction in what you are doing. I think this started from the top and has trickled down to the players. They have no faith in anything they are doing out there. Another symptom I have noticed with this team is the lack of on-field support players get for doing something positive from other players (particularly on defense). Overall just not a lot of communication in general out there and just some awful body language right now. Gradually I believe the on-field leaders that were there under Doeren and early Carey years have graduated, and NIU is deeply lacking in on-field leadership right now in addition to being poorly led at the top. I don't know how this thing gets fixed, every time I think of a team that has tuned out the coach I think of the Gopher football team NIU played around 2010, and that is a depressing image.

(09-06-2016 12:53 AM)ptownhuskie Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 09:43 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 04:09 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 01:01 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Agreed. There is something about Carey that does not mesh with the team. WMU would walk through walls for their screwball coach. Would the Huskies do that for Carey?

Also agreeing. The team walked out on Carey before the last bowl game and that was covered up, downplayed, and now seemingly painted over. But I don't believe the players have truly forgotten, meaning he has not "won them back."
Later in the Wyoming game, he's in the middle of the huddle, continuously turning to make eye contact with the players, but at one point one of the players is rolling his eyes when Carey has his back turned to him.

I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

I kinda think the same thing because usually there's one person that will post something they shouldn't on Twitter or FB. If it is true I would love to actually find out.

It happened. I've been in classes with a few players and last semester one of them told me and a couple other guys a little about it.

Where Randy? I'm sure he could find out or already knows about what happened with the players and Carey at the bowl game. I'd love to hear about it

No chance that would happen in the Novak/Kill days...


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(09-05-2016 10:11 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Raise your hand if you're sick and tired of seeing Bouagnon running into the LOS for no gain all game.

This. Also tired of the same thing with Hare. Once upon a time our offense was fun to watch, now it just puts me to sleep. Every series goes something like this or a variation thereof:

1st down - JB run up the middle for 1-2 yd. gain/loss
2nd down - Incomplete pass
3rd down - Hare run up the middle for 1-2 yd. gain/loss
Punt

Rinse and Repeat. We only manage to move the ball successfully with throws to Golladay, and the occasional run by Huff. Its just a one dimensional yawn-fest. We were 5-18 on 3rd down conversions against Wyoming, that's just pitiful.

(09-06-2016 10:51 AM)SiegInc Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 10:11 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Raise your hand if you're sick and tired of seeing Bouagnon running into the LOS for no gain all game.

This. Also tired of the same thing with Hare. Once upon a time our offense was fun to watch, now it just puts me to sleep. Every series goes something like this or a variation thereof:

1st down - JB run up the middle for 1-2 yd. gain/loss
2nd down - Incomplete pass
3rd down - Hare run up the middle for 1-2 yd. gain/loss
Punt

Rinse and Repeat. We only manage to move the ball successfully with throws to Golladay, and the occasional run by Huff. Its just a one dimensional yawn-fest. We were 5-18 on 3rd down conversions against Wyoming, that's just pitiful.

Hare has been chewed up and spit out by this coaching staff. I feel bad for him.

Also raise your hand if you're sick and tired of watching the defense try to lazily arm tackle the ball carrier.

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 04:09 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 01:01 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 12:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Great post. I just fear the time to fix the problems was last year. IMO Carey started to lose this team after the non conference season last year

Agreed. There is something about Carey that does not mesh with the team. WMU would walk through walls for their screwball coach. Would the Huskies do that for Carey?

Also agreeing. The team walked out on Carey before the last bowl game and that was covered up, downplayed, and now seemingly painted over. But I don't believe the players have truly forgotten, meaning he has not "won them back."
Later in the Wyoming game, he's in the middle of the huddle, continuously turning to make eye contact with the players, but at one point one of the players is rolling his eyes when Carey has his back turned to him.

I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

yes 100 % fact the players walked out and threatened to not get on the flight to SD if Carey was with them !!! if you want to know why private message me

(09-06-2016 11:26 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 04:09 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 01:01 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 12:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Great post. I just fear the time to fix the problems was last year. IMO Carey started to lose this team after the non conference season last year

Agreed. There is something about Carey that does not mesh with the team. WMU would walk through walls for their screwball coach. Would the Huskies do that for Carey?

Also agreeing. The team walked out on Carey before the last bowl game and that was covered up, downplayed, and now seemingly painted over. But I don't believe the players have truly forgotten, meaning he has not "won them back."
Later in the Wyoming game, he's in the middle of the huddle, continuously turning to make eye contact with the players, but at one point one of the players is rolling his eyes when Carey has his back turned to him.

I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

yes 100 % fact the players walked out and threatened to not get on the flight to SD if Carey was with them !!! if you want to know why private message me

Wow that's bad. I can't imagine that all has been forgotten this year. Yikes.

(09-06-2016 10:49 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 12:53 AM)ptownhuskie Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 09:43 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 04:09 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Also agreeing. The team walked out on Carey before the last bowl game and that was covered up, downplayed, and now seemingly painted over. But I don't believe the players have truly forgotten, meaning he has not "won them back."
Later in the Wyoming game, he's in the middle of the huddle, continuously turning to make eye contact with the players, but at one point one of the players is rolling his eyes when Carey has his back turned to him.

I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

I kinda think the same thing because usually there's one person that will post something they shouldn't on Twitter or FB. If it is true I would love to actually find out.

It happened. I've been in classes with a few players and last semester one of them told me and a couple other guys a little about it.

Where Randy? I'm sure he could find out or already knows about what happened with the players and Carey at the bowl game. I'd love to hear about it

No chance that would happen in the Novak/Kill days...


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lol yes they walked out and demanded Carey not be on the flight to SD LOL

(09-06-2016 11:29 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:49 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 12:53 AM)ptownhuskie Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 09:43 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

I kinda think the same thing because usually there's one person that will post something they shouldn't on Twitter or FB. If it is true I would love to actually find out.

It happened. I've been in classes with a few players and last semester one of them told me and a couple other guys a little about it.

Where Randy? I'm sure he could find out or already knows about what happened with the players and Carey at the bowl game. I'd love to hear about it

No chance that would happen in the Novak/Kill days...


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lol yes they walked out and demanded Carey not be on the flight to SD LOL

Was it football related or off the field issues on why they were mad at Carey?

AH wait I remember the story now, he made a comment about the parents of one of the players.

If all this is true, Carey should have been shown the door after last season. If there are still bad feelings, this will no doubt affect the team's performance this year. Better buckle that belt tighter.

(09-06-2016 11:47 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  If all this is true, Carey should have been shown the door after last season. If there are still bad feelings, this will no doubt affect the team's performance this year. Better buckle that belt tighter.

NIU will never have an AD that will make personnel decisions. It would interfere with the next job search

(09-06-2016 11:29 AM)randy6956 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:49 AM)NIU32 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 12:53 AM)ptownhuskie Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 09:43 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 05:39 PM)NILAW Wrote:  I have always questioned whether the players walked out on Carey before the bowl game for 1 reason - none of the about 100 19-22 year olds put anything on FB, etc. that I ever heard about. I always found that one very hard to believe. If you or someone know that story is true then I have a different position, including STF may not have handled things correctly. The player rolling his eyes is very disturbing! That (plus the times things like that are not caught on camera) coupled with the player walk-out (if true) = such a bad relationship between Carey and the players that sounds like it cannot be repaired! Actually, all this goes a long way in explaining the issues and problems IMO!

I kinda think the same thing because usually there's one person that will post something they shouldn't on Twitter or FB. If it is true I would love to actually find out.

It happened. I've been in classes with a few players and last semester one of them told me and a couple other guys a little about it.

Where Randy? I'm sure he could find out or already knows about what happened with the players and Carey at the bowl game. I'd love to hear about it

No chance that would happen in the Novak/Kill days...


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lol yes they walked out and demanded Carey not be on the flight to SD LOL

I'd like to know how Frazier responded to this.

I mean why people are trying to find a reason to blame Frazier is beyond me. Yea, he should have made a more aggressive push for the Big 12 but he's still the best AD we've had.

(09-06-2016 12:14 PM)HuskiesCHI27 Wrote:  I mean why people are trying to find a reason to blame Frazier is beyond me. Yea, he should have made a more aggressive push for the Big 12 but he's still the best AD we've had.

What has he done concrete other than scheduling, that is looking like it is starting to fall apart? Lot's of talk and plans, but not much else. I like the guy, but at some point you have to produce.