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An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
Potential Top PAC Schools: Washington, Stanford, U.S.C. (loss to Alabama), U.C.L.A. (loss to A&M), Arizona (loss to B.Y.U.)

Potential Top Big 12 Schools: Texas, Oklahoma (loss to Houston), T.C.U. (Problems with South Dakota State), Oklahoma State

Potential Top ACC Schools: Clemson (Problems with Auburn), North Carolina (loss to Georgia), Notre Dame (loss to Texas), Florida State (Opening game with Ole Miss)

Potential Top Big 10 Schools: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State

What's the Point?
Stanford plays Notre Dame, Michigan State plays Michigan and Notre Dame, Ohio State plays Michigan, Texas plays Oklahoma, Texas plays T.C.U., Texas plays Oklahoma State, Oklahoma Plays Oklahoma State, Oklahoma plays T.C.U., Oklahoma State plays T.C.U., Clemson plays Florida State, Florida State plays Louisville, Clemson plays Louisville.

Because of the opening games this week Monday's game takes on a huge significance. "IF" Ole Miss wins this is how things shake out:

Florida State and Louisville should both have a good shot at Clemson. If Florida State loses to Ole Miss and beats Clemson and Louisville drops one of those games then the ACC is in a tight spot for landing a CFP slot. With Notre Dame's loss tonight and games remaining with Michigan State, Stanford, and U.S.C. the ACC could find itself in a quality wins situation to help a 1 loss school.

With Oklahoma having lost to Houston should they beat Texas and lose to either T.C.U. or Oklahoma State and both of those latter lose a game then the same is true in the Big 12.

With 3 of the potentially top 5 programs down already in the PAC should Stanford drop a game and Washington do the same (and one will lose to the other) then the PAC finds itself in a tight spot as well.

The Big 10 by beating L.S.U. and avoiding other big games is sitting pretty.

But the SEC which was much maligned for the opening weeks performances is also sitting pretty. With an Ole Miss win we hold the hammer on the SEC and PAC due to wins over ranked teams from both. Should the Big 12 beat each other up it bodes well for our Champion even with a loss, and it bodes well for Houston which if it beats Louisville should finish the season undefeated.

I don't think we've ever had this many scenarios set up in the first week before.

Thoughts?
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RE: An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
Last Years Playoff teams:

Clemson- beat 3 top 25 teams. Won the ACC. Also, Beat Louisville who finished in the top 25.
Oklahoma- Beat 5 top 25 teams. Won the Big 12.
Alabama- Beat 6 top 25 teams, played 7 top 25 teams total. Won the SEC.
Michigan State- Beat 4 Top 25 teams. Won the B1G.

If the American can have a season like they had last season and Houston can get another top 25 win or 2 I could see them having a chance if they go undefeated. I don't see it right now, but it is possible it's just week 1.

Houston as of right now will only play 2 total 25 teams. They have 6 bad games on their schedule. Tulane, UConn (Apparently rebuilding), Lamar, Texas State, UCF (They went 0-12 last year), SMU.

Then they have @ Cincy, @ Memphis and @ Navy. (Best chance for possible top 25 wins I guess?)

So under this scenario.

Louisville wins the ACC only loss is to Houston.
Oklahoma wins the Big 12 only loss is to Houston.
Houston goes undefeated.

That in my opinion eliminates those 2 conferences from the playoff and I don't see how the committee could leave Houston out unless the SEC has a crazy scenario with the East and West champ.

For example:

Tennessee beats Alabama in the regular season goes into the SEC Champ game 12-0 #1 in the rankings. Alabama at 11-1 say #5. Alabama beats Tennessee in the SEC Champ game.

I could See Tennessee dropping to #3 and Bama jumping up to #2 or #4.

The SEC would get 2 in. Houston is probably out to a 0-1 loss Pac 12 team and a 0-1 loss B1G team.

I think Houston is oozing with potential as a program. Especially under Herman. The man can flat out coach.

I just think right now, there are too many ifs.

I don't judge to harshly on week 1 results.

Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC (Only teams I see with a chance, Louisville eliminated in this scenario because they lose to Houston) with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
The SEC Champ will get in over Houston.
The B1G Champ will get in over Houston.
Pac 12 champ with 1 or less losses gets in over Houston.

That's the way I see the Houston situation right now.

I think Notre Dame will drop another game or 2.

Auburn will probably be the best defense Clemson plays all season. (As of now). If we can just figure out something on offense we have a chance to make some noise this season.

As you said though, there are alot of scenarios right now. It's really tough to call. Won't know much until conference play starts.
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RE: An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
It's just week one, so I'm just gonna let this season play out.

I will say that Houston controls their own path to the playoffs. An undefeated Coog's with wins over OU and L'ville would be hard to keep out of the playoffs especially considering if they go two years with only one loss.

I'm gonna chat about some SEC schools:

1. Tennessee: QB Dobbs must protect the football or Tenners will lose a ton of games.
2. Arkansas: New QB and 3 new starters on the o-line showed this weekend. QB was starring down receivers and throwing picks while the oline were not picking up their assignments. Both correctable and it looks like TCU might not be that big of a challenge this weekend.
3 Texas A&M: good win vs UCLA and they finally looked like the squad we've been waiting for Sumlin to produce once Johnny Football left
4. Alabama: they gonna murder teams this year
5. LSU: Les Miles still has not fixed that offense. He might not make it through the season.

Scary thought for the day: Tom Herman Head ball coach of LSU; could be 'bama killers
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(09-05-2016 01:36 AM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Last Years Playoff teams:

Clemson- beat 3 top 25 teams. Won the ACC. Also, Beat Louisville who finished in the top 25.
Oklahoma- Beat 5 top 25 teams. Won the Big 12.
Alabama- Beat 6 top 25 teams, played 7 top 25 teams total. Won the SEC.
Michigan State- Beat 4 Top 25 teams. Won the B1G.

If the American can have a season like they had last season and Houston can get another top 25 win or 2 I could see them having a chance if they go undefeated. I don't see it right now, but it is possible it's just week 1.

Houston as of right now will only play 2 total 25 teams. They have 6 bad games on their schedule. Tulane, UConn (Apparently rebuilding), Lamar, Texas State, UCF (They went 0-12 last year), SMU.

Then they have @ Cincy, @ Memphis and @ Navy. (Best chance for possible top 25 wins I guess?)

So under this scenario.

Louisville wins the ACC only loss is to Houston.
Oklahoma wins the Big 12 only loss is to Houston.
Houston goes undefeated.

That in my opinion eliminates those 2 conferences from the playoff and I don't see how the committee could leave Houston out unless the SEC has a crazy scenario with the East and West champ.

For example:

Tennessee beats Alabama in the regular season goes into the SEC Champ game 12-0 #1 in the rankings. Alabama at 11-1 say #5. Alabama beats Tennessee in the SEC Champ game.

I could See Tennessee dropping to #3 and Bama jumping up to #2 or #4.

The SEC would get 2 in. Houston is probably out to a 0-1 loss Pac 12 team and a 0-1 loss B1G team.

I think Houston is oozing with potential as a program. Especially under Herman. The man can flat out coach.

I just think right now, there are too many ifs.

I don't judge to harshly on week 1 results.

Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC (Only teams I see with a chance, Louisville eliminated in this scenario because they lose to Houston) with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
The SEC Champ will get in over Houston.
The B1G Champ will get in over Houston.
Pac 12 champ with 1 or less losses gets in over Houston.

That's the way I see the Houston situation right now.

I think Notre Dame will drop another game or 2.

Auburn will probably be the best defense Clemson plays all season. (As of now). If we can just figure out something on offense we have a chance to make some noise this season.

As you said though, there are alot of scenarios right now. It's really tough to call. Won't know much until conference play starts.

It is possible for the SEC to get two in, but I think the Big 10 has a better chance.

Assuming: Houston is in as a beater of the Big 12/ACC champs
That leaves three spots.

If one each of SEC/Big 10 make it that leaves one more spot.

I wonder if someone like Stanford would have to have three losses in that scenario. Otherwise it would come down to say a two loss Louisville/Clemson/FSU versus a two loss Stanford.

Rationale: If the Big 10/SEC puts two teams in with Houston getting a spot, then 3 P5 conference champions are left out. I don't know how the committee would react, but that sounds crazy to me.
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(09-05-2016 09:16 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 01:36 AM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Last Years Playoff teams:

Clemson- beat 3 top 25 teams. Won the ACC. Also, Beat Louisville who finished in the top 25.
Oklahoma- Beat 5 top 25 teams. Won the Big 12.
Alabama- Beat 6 top 25 teams, played 7 top 25 teams total. Won the SEC.
Michigan State- Beat 4 Top 25 teams. Won the B1G.

If the American can have a season like they had last season and Houston can get another top 25 win or 2 I could see them having a chance if they go undefeated. I don't see it right now, but it is possible it's just week 1.

Houston as of right now will only play 2 total 25 teams. They have 6 bad games on their schedule. Tulane, UConn (Apparently rebuilding), Lamar, Texas State, UCF (They went 0-12 last year), SMU.

Then they have @ Cincy, @ Memphis and @ Navy. (Best chance for possible top 25 wins I guess?)

So under this scenario.

Louisville wins the ACC only loss is to Houston.
Oklahoma wins the Big 12 only loss is to Houston.
Houston goes undefeated.

That in my opinion eliminates those 2 conferences from the playoff and I don't see how the committee could leave Houston out unless the SEC has a crazy scenario with the East and West champ.

For example:

Tennessee beats Alabama in the regular season goes into the SEC Champ game 12-0 #1 in the rankings. Alabama at 11-1 say #5. Alabama beats Tennessee in the SEC Champ game.

I could See Tennessee dropping to #3 and Bama jumping up to #2 or #4.

The SEC would get 2 in. Houston is probably out to a 0-1 loss Pac 12 team and a 0-1 loss B1G team.

I think Houston is oozing with potential as a program. Especially under Herman. The man can flat out coach.

I just think right now, there are too many ifs.

I don't judge to harshly on week 1 results.

Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC (Only teams I see with a chance, Louisville eliminated in this scenario because they lose to Houston) with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
The SEC Champ will get in over Houston.
The B1G Champ will get in over Houston.
Pac 12 champ with 1 or less losses gets in over Houston.

That's the way I see the Houston situation right now.

I think Notre Dame will drop another game or 2.

Auburn will probably be the best defense Clemson plays all season. (As of now). If we can just figure out something on offense we have a chance to make some noise this season.

As you said though, there are alot of scenarios right now. It's really tough to call. Won't know much until conference play starts.

It is possible for the SEC to get two in, but I think the Big 10 has a better chance.

Assuming: Houston is in as a beater of the Big 12/ACC champs
That leaves three spots.

If one each of SEC/Big 10 make it that leaves one more spot.

I wonder if someone like Stanford would have to have three losses in that scenario. Otherwise it would come down to say a two loss Louisville/Clemson/FSU versus a two loss Stanford.

Rationale: If the Big 10/SEC puts two teams in with Houston getting a spot, then 3 P5 conference champions are left out. I don't know how the committee would react, but that sounds crazy to me.

Imagine an undefeated Houston getting left out while a two loss P5 school gets in. The G5 schools could say the system is rigged against them to never get in and either the playoffs expand to eight teams or a new system is installed.
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An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.
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(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.
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(09-05-2016 01:53 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  It's just week one, so I'm just gonna let this season play out.

I will say that Houston controls their own path to the playoffs. An undefeated Coog's with wins over OU and L'ville would be hard to keep out of the playoffs especially considering if they go two years with only one loss.

I'm gonna chat about some SEC schools:

1. Tennessee: QB Dobbs must protect the football or Tenners will lose a ton of games.
2. Arkansas: New QB and 3 new starters on the o-line showed this weekend. QB was starring down receivers and throwing picks while the oline were not picking up their assignments. Both correctable and it looks like TCU might not be that big of a challenge this weekend.
3 Texas A&M: good win vs UCLA and they finally looked like the squad we've been waiting for Sumlin to produce once Johnny Football left
4. Alabama: they gonna murder teams this year
5. LSU: Les Miles still has not fixed that offense. He might not make it through the season.

Scary thought for the day: Tom Herman Head ball coach of LSU; could be 'bama killers

If Arkansas has a QB who can throw a really accurate deep ball then that has been TCUs defense downfall since the start of last year. I would be interested to see the stats but it feels like 60% of the TDs scored on TCU last year were passing plays of 40+ yards.

I'm sure both Arkansas and TCU fans are hoping for drastic improvements from their week 1 performances. TCU didn't expect to give up 40+ points to S Dakota St and I'm guessing Arkansas expected to score more than 21 on La Tech.
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(09-05-2016 09:26 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:16 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 01:36 AM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Last Years Playoff teams:

Clemson- beat 3 top 25 teams. Won the ACC. Also, Beat Louisville who finished in the top 25.
Oklahoma- Beat 5 top 25 teams. Won the Big 12.
Alabama- Beat 6 top 25 teams, played 7 top 25 teams total. Won the SEC.
Michigan State- Beat 4 Top 25 teams. Won the B1G.

If the American can have a season like they had last season and Houston can get another top 25 win or 2 I could see them having a chance if they go undefeated. I don't see it right now, but it is possible it's just week 1.

Houston as of right now will only play 2 total 25 teams. They have 6 bad games on their schedule. Tulane, UConn (Apparently rebuilding), Lamar, Texas State, UCF (They went 0-12 last year), SMU.

Then they have @ Cincy, @ Memphis and @ Navy. (Best chance for possible top 25 wins I guess?)

So under this scenario.

Louisville wins the ACC only loss is to Houston.
Oklahoma wins the Big 12 only loss is to Houston.
Houston goes undefeated.

That in my opinion eliminates those 2 conferences from the playoff and I don't see how the committee could leave Houston out unless the SEC has a crazy scenario with the East and West champ.

For example:

Tennessee beats Alabama in the regular season goes into the SEC Champ game 12-0 #1 in the rankings. Alabama at 11-1 say #5. Alabama beats Tennessee in the SEC Champ game.

I could See Tennessee dropping to #3 and Bama jumping up to #2 or #4.

The SEC would get 2 in. Houston is probably out to a 0-1 loss Pac 12 team and a 0-1 loss B1G team.

I think Houston is oozing with potential as a program. Especially under Herman. The man can flat out coach.

I just think right now, there are too many ifs.

I don't judge to harshly on week 1 results.

Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC (Only teams I see with a chance, Louisville eliminated in this scenario because they lose to Houston) with 1 or less losses gets them a slot over Houston.
The SEC Champ will get in over Houston.
The B1G Champ will get in over Houston.
Pac 12 champ with 1 or less losses gets in over Houston.

That's the way I see the Houston situation right now.

I think Notre Dame will drop another game or 2.

Auburn will probably be the best defense Clemson plays all season. (As of now). If we can just figure out something on offense we have a chance to make some noise this season.

As you said though, there are alot of scenarios right now. It's really tough to call. Won't know much until conference play starts.

It is possible for the SEC to get two in, but I think the Big 10 has a better chance.

Assuming: Houston is in as a beater of the Big 12/ACC champs
That leaves three spots.

If one each of SEC/Big 10 make it that leaves one more spot.

I wonder if someone like Stanford would have to have three losses in that scenario. Otherwise it would come down to say a two loss Louisville/Clemson/FSU versus a two loss Stanford.

Rationale: If the Big 10/SEC puts two teams in with Houston getting a spot, then 3 P5 conference champions are left out. I don't know how the committee would react, but that sounds crazy to me.

Imagine an undefeated Houston getting left out while a two loss P5 school gets in. The G5 schools could say the system is rigged against them to never get in and either the playoffs expand to eight teams or a new system is installed.

Houston fans need to be the biggest OU and Louisville fans this year, if they have two wins over teams that are P5 conference champs or at least top 2 in a P5 league and if the American has as good of a year as last year then Houston should be in a good spot if they go undefeated.

Of course Memphis and Navy likely won't be as good as last year so AAC needs some others to trend up this year.
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(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

It's only week 1 JR. Clemson has a bunch of new starters but they are all quality recruits. I don't see a reason why they won't improve. Ohio St lost to VT only to go on to win the national championship. There's a reason why the CFP committee waits until 3/4 of the season is played before they start ranking teams. Week 1 is way too early. You could say that the SEC is weak this year given their 7-6 opening week record but I don't expect that to hold up either. I don't expect Ole Miss to go winless despite losing to S Ala. it's been said that teams make the most improvements between the first two weeks of the season.
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(09-05-2016 10:10 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

It's only week 1 JR. Clemson has a bunch of new starters but they are all quality recruits. I don't see a reason why they won't improve. Ohio St lost to VT only to go on to win the national championship. There's a reason why the CFP committee waits until 3/4 of the season is played before they start ranking teams. Week 1 is way too early. You could say that the SEC is weak this year given their 7-6 opening week record but I don't expect that to hold up either. I don't expect Ole Miss to go winless despite losing to S Ala. it's been said that teams make the most improvements between the first two weeks of the season.

It was Mississippi State that lost to South Alabama, and while they won't go win-less they have a multitude of issues to overcome. They are truly rebuilding. I think it's Louisville's year to make the ACC run. If you beat F.S.U. I like your chances a lot.
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(09-05-2016 10:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 10:10 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

It's only week 1 JR. Clemson has a bunch of new starters but they are all quality recruits. I don't see a reason why they won't improve. Ohio St lost to VT only to go on to win the national championship. There's a reason why the CFP committee waits until 3/4 of the season is played before they start ranking teams. Week 1 is way too early. You could say that the SEC is weak this year given their 7-6 opening week record but I don't expect that to hold up either. I don't expect Ole Miss to go winless despite losing to S Ala. it's been said that teams make the most improvements between the first two weeks of the season.

It was Mississippi State that lost to South Alabama, and while they won't go win-less they have a multitude of issues to overcome. They are truly rebuilding. I think it's Louisville's year to make the ACC run. If you beat F.S.U. I like your chances a lot.

I hope you're right JR. We will know more about Louisville over the next two weeks, @ Syracuse & host FSU. I'm high on the Cards but we need to take the next step & beat either Clemson or FSU, both would be outstanding. Hopefully Auburn can work out their issues & dethrone the Tide.

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(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.
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(09-05-2016 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.

Nice attempt to troll. But it was rather obvious to most of us that the Gus Bus is yellow with red crossing lights and a stop sign. Lil' ole Auburn was a significant underdog, picked to finish 5th in the West while Clemson was #2 in the nation and nowhere near deserving of that rating. I'd say Lil' ole Auburn did accomplish one thing however. Should Ole Miss take down the 'Noles tonight that win coupled with Georgia's and a low rated Auburn squad's toe to toe performance against Clemson will be enough to change the public perception of the ACC for most of the year. Notre Dame's loss didn't help your case either. Then should Tennessee take down Virginia Tech this next week it could be lights out for the ACC in week #2. Louisville will be, and may be anyway, your best ticket to the CFP.
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(09-05-2016 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.

Nice attempt to troll. But it was rather obvious to most of us that the Gus Bus is yellow with red crossing lights and a stop sign. Lil' ole Auburn was a significant underdog, picked to finish 5th in the West while Clemson was #2 in the nation and nowhere near deserving of that rating. I'd say Lil' ole Auburn did accomplish one thing however. Should Ole Miss take down the 'Noles tonight that win coupled with Georgia's and a low rated Auburn squad's toe to toe performance against Clemson will be enough to change the public perception of the ACC for most of the year. Notre Dame's loss didn't help your case either. Then should Tennessee take down Virginia Tech this next week it could be lights out for the ACC in week #2. Louisville will be, and may be anyway, your best ticket to the CFP.

If you mention the PAC12's first week losses...it could be a long year for some conferences
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(09-05-2016 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.

Nice attempt to troll. But it was rather obvious to most of us that the Gus Bus is yellow with red crossing lights and a stop sign. Lil' ole Auburn was a significant underdog, picked to finish 5th in the West while Clemson was #2 in the nation and nowhere near deserving of that rating. I'd say Lil' ole Auburn did accomplish one thing however. Should Ole Miss take down the 'Noles tonight that win coupled with Georgia's and a low rated Auburn squad's toe to toe performance against Clemson will be enough to change the public perception of the ACC for most of the year. Notre Dame's loss didn't help your case either. Then should Tennessee take down Virginia Tech this next week it could be lights out for the ACC in week #2. Louisville will be, and may be anyway, your best ticket to the CFP.

So how much longer does Gus have? This is Auburn's last year of paying Chizik, right?
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RE: An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
(09-05-2016 01:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.

Nice attempt to troll. But it was rather obvious to most of us that the Gus Bus is yellow with red crossing lights and a stop sign. Lil' ole Auburn was a significant underdog, picked to finish 5th in the West while Clemson was #2 in the nation and nowhere near deserving of that rating. I'd say Lil' ole Auburn did accomplish one thing however. Should Ole Miss take down the 'Noles tonight that win coupled with Georgia's and a low rated Auburn squad's toe to toe performance against Clemson will be enough to change the public perception of the ACC for most of the year. Notre Dame's loss didn't help your case either. Then should Tennessee take down Virginia Tech this next week it could be lights out for the ACC in week #2. Louisville will be, and may be anyway, your best ticket to the CFP.

So how much longer does Gus have? This is Auburn's last year of paying Chizik, right?
I haven't looked it up but I think 2 years and it probably is Chiz's last year, but remember the way these buyouts are written our payout to Chiz is reduced by his present salary at UNC.
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Yeah, Clemson was a bit underwhelming against Auburn, especially on offense. Williams had over 170 yards receiving, but also dropped 2 TDs and fumbled. Missed PAT. Late hit on QB on 3rd and 10 led to Auburn TD. Gallman runs out of bounds with 40 seconds left. Not kicking a 32 yard FG with an experienced kicker. If Clemson resolves the self-inflicted wounds, they could make another CFP run. Right now, I get the feeling we're a 10-2 team with losses to Louisville and FSU (who looks monstrous, especially on defense).

On another note, add Deandre Francois to the long list of QBs better than Chad Kelly (who probably still thinks he is the best QB in the nation). 05-stirthepot


(09-05-2016 10:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 10:10 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:28 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It's week 1 so anything can still happen. In the first year of the CFP the B1G was considered dead within the first few weeks & Ohio St won the whole thing.

The PAC & the B12 seem to be the most likely to be left out. The primary contenders are Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio St & Michigan. Georgia, Wisconsin, Houston, Texas, Louisville & a few others are also looking good.

If I had to pick 4 for the CFP right now, I would have 1) Alabama, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU/Miss St winner, 4) Houston. But again, it's only week 1.

Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

It's only week 1 JR. Clemson has a bunch of new starters but they are all quality recruits. I don't see a reason why they won't improve. Ohio St lost to VT only to go on to win the national championship. There's a reason why the CFP committee waits until 3/4 of the season is played before they start ranking teams. Week 1 is way too early. You could say that the SEC is weak this year given their 7-6 opening week record but I don't expect that to hold up either. I don't expect Ole Miss to go winless despite losing to S Ala. it's been said that teams make the most improvements between the first two weeks of the season.

It was Mississippi State that lost to South Alabama, and while they won't go win-less they have a multitude of issues to overcome. They are truly rebuilding. I think it's Louisville's year to make the ACC run. If you beat F.S.U. I like your chances a lot.
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RE: An Interesting Weekend and Why Monday Could be Really Big
(09-05-2016 01:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 01:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 12:07 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 09:39 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Lenville, Clemson isn't that good. They lost a lot up front. Auburn's defense is improved, but we aren't world beaters. The offense is atrocious. A top 5 school should have won that game by 21 and never been threatened. If Clemson were in the SEC they would be looking at 3 possibly 4 losses. In the ACC I think they get beat twice.

That Auburn/Clemson game was the highlight of the SEC weekend so far when the team from the mighty SEC with the offensive genius coach was able to put a scare into a lil ol' ACC team.

Nice attempt to troll. But it was rather obvious to most of us that the Gus Bus is yellow with red crossing lights and a stop sign. Lil' ole Auburn was a significant underdog, picked to finish 5th in the West while Clemson was #2 in the nation and nowhere near deserving of that rating. I'd say Lil' ole Auburn did accomplish one thing however. Should Ole Miss take down the 'Noles tonight that win coupled with Georgia's and a low rated Auburn squad's toe to toe performance against Clemson will be enough to change the public perception of the ACC for most of the year. Notre Dame's loss didn't help your case either. Then should Tennessee take down Virginia Tech this next week it could be lights out for the ACC in week #2. Louisville will be, and may be anyway, your best ticket to the CFP.

So how much longer does Gus have? This is Auburn's last year of paying Chizik, right?
I haven't looked it up but I think 2 years and it probably is Chiz's last year, but remember the way these buyouts are written our payout to Chiz is reduced by his present salary at UNC.

I think he is paying us JR.
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