My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

BG is that bad. Their defense is just as ****** as it always has been.

BG just lost a starting corner to a six game suspension, with a return, interestingly, slated for the UT game. The same guy got booted by their last coach for all of 2015, got reinstated by the new guy then suspended by the new guy for what appears to be the same reason he got booted last year. His absence probably didn't help. If he had played I could see BG keeping it to about -64 or 65.

(09-03-2016 09:35 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

Embarrassing it is, but I can't be too critical of the birdbrains. In 2003 BG came every bit as close to beating tOSU as the Rockets did the last time they played.....and if you look at the two previous UT-tOSU match ups the scores were 38-0 and 49-0 if I remember correctly.

Id rather lose 49-0 than 77-7 when OSU was still fricking passing in the 4th quarter to make a point... Ud think Meyer would have been a little nicer to BG Oklahoma losing hurts the Buckeyes though... They'll need every butt whooping they can get to make the playoffs.

Really can't imagine why OSU would do that. Don't notice that as a Meyer trait but maybe I've not paid attention.

Watched the game, likely a combination of both. OSU has better speed, strength, and depth at every position. BG has a few good players, but the team doesn't look that strong as a whole. Thought I would see a bit more fight from our foes, but they didn't have it in them.

Also a bit surprised that NIU fell to Wyoming, however they were playing at over 7000ft into the wee hours of the morning (~4am EDT, 3 OT's). I wouldn't read that much into this one either since we don't know how much Wyoming has improved this year. They appear to have a decent QB, RB, and a couple of WR that gave NIU some problems.

What's the elevation at BYU and what time is that game?

(09-04-2016 09:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  What's the elevation at BYU and what time is that game?

4,649 feet, 10:15pm Eastern time...not going to be easy. Hope we can fly out early to get acclimated.

P.S. Nice stadium

If I went to that game, I might not come back. I'll still be in the alumni tent, just me and one of those space blankets, working on that banquet then waiting for ski season.

(09-04-2016 09:48 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  If I went to that game, I might not come back. I'll still be in the alumni tent, just me and one of those space blankets, working on that banquet then waiting for ski season.

At some of those elevations it's always ski season.

(09-04-2016 09:33 AM)ToledoMike Wrote:  

(09-04-2016 09:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  What's the elevation at BYU and what time is that game?

4,649 feet, 10:15pm Eastern time...not going to be easy. Hope we can fly out early to get acclimated.

P.S. Nice stadium

I'm always a fan of a sunset in the GB, but daaaaang that's a view.

(09-04-2016 09:24 AM)ToledoMike Wrote:  Watched the game, likely a combination of both. OSU has better speed, strength, and depth at every position. BG has a few good players, but the team doesn't look that strong as a whole. Thought I would see a bit more fight from our foes, but they didn't have it in them.

Also a bit surprised that NIU fell to Wyoming, however they were playing at over 7000ft into the wee hours of the morning (~4am EDT, 3 OT's). I wouldn't read that much into this one either since we don't know how much Wyoming has improved this year. They appear to have a decent QB, RB, and a couple of WR that gave NIU some problems.

The Rockets played Wyoming in Laramie and showed no ill-effects of playing at 7,220 ft above sea level which, in fact, surprised me a bit.

I was surprised by the play of the Cowboys and the pressure they put on Hare. He took a number of hits. Cramps were problems for several Huskies. The NIU game plan was heavy of the pass with a fewer than normal running plays. They looked like themselves late in the fourth quarter driving down the filed to tie the game with about three minutes remaining. In non-typical Huskies play, Wyoming drove the field to get in field goal range. A last second NIU time out worked as the Cowboy freshman kicker missed sending the game into OT. Wyoming had another chance to win in OT but another missed field goal attempt by the Pokes gave NIU life. NIU missed a field goal in the third OT and this time the Cowboys scored with a weird QB scramble that I thought would end in the middle of the field setting up the game winning FG. But he kept running and wiggled his way in the end zone with a plunge from about three yards out.

Hope the Rockets secondary watch the play of the Wyoming DBs and how they covered #19 Kenny Golladay in man coverage for most of the game. He won't be shut down but he can be slowed up, limiting his big gainers.

(09-04-2016 09:33 AM)ToledoMike Wrote:  

(09-04-2016 09:26 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  What's the elevation at BYU and what time is that game?

4,649 feet, 10:15pm Eastern time...not going to be easy. Hope we can fly out early to get acclimated.

P.S. Nice stadium

7200 is a lot different than 4600. at 4600 you need to be extra hydrated and take a few more plays off. unprepared for 7200 can really fu#k with you. then again, BYU just few to Arizona for an emotional up and down TV game that ended after midnight. They fly home to prepare for a short road trip to rival Utah. Host UCLA. Fly to Maryland for a big neutral site game with West Virginia in the stadium of the Washington Slur for Native Americans. Then, they fly back to Utah for an early week late night tv game on Friday with Toledo. I like our freshness coming off Maine and Fresno and an off week. I worry about being as well battle tested.

We seem rather well prepared for a first game. Battle tested might not be a problem.

Getting back on point of the original post, I thought BG looked pretty good in the first 1 or 2 possessions. Knapke and those receivers will be difficult for the MAC to contain, and Coppett is back for about his 7th season it seems. Their guys in the trenches will be the weakness of the team, but they can play around that on offense. On defense, you can't hide a weak D-line. They will need to score pretty much every time they have the ball, because you know their opponents will be scoring a lot of points. Maybe they get better as the season goes forward, that would depend on whether they are young or just not physical enough to compete in D1.

(09-03-2016 10:48 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 09:35 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

Embarrassing it is, but I can't be too critical of the birdbrains. In 2003 BG came every bit as close to beating tOSU as the Rockets did the last time they played.....and if you look at the two previous UT-tOSU match ups the scores were 38-0 and 49-0 if I remember correctly.

If you remember the 49-0 game, it was 42-0 at halftime and Cooper called off the dogs. The other memories I have of that game is that it was about 90 degrees at game time, Bolden lined up behind the guard to take the snap on the first series, and their defensive backs had more receptions than our receivers did. Pinkel didn't talk about the process after the game, but rather how embarrassed he was that the Toledo team did not compete better. That would have been refreshing to hear about the games against NIU and WMU last year. Instead, we were told it was not the end of the world, it was just a game....blah, blah, blah. In the WMU game the rumors of a departure took over.

(09-05-2016 08:16 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 10:48 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 09:35 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

Embarrassing it is, but I can't be too critical of the birdbrains. In 2003 BG came every bit as close to beating tOSU as the Rockets did the last time they played.....and if you look at the two previous UT-tOSU match ups the scores were 38-0 and 49-0 if I remember correctly.

If you remember the 49-0 game, it was 42-0 at halftime and Cooper called off the dogs. The other memories I have of that game is that it was about 90 degrees at game time, Bolden lined up behind the guard to take the snap on the first series, and their defensive backs had more receptions than our receivers did. Pinkel didn't talk about the process after the game, but rather how embarrassed he was that the Toledo team did not compete better. That would have been refreshing to hear about the games against NIU and WMU last year. Instead, we were told it was not the end of the world, it was just a game....blah, blah, blah. In the WMU game the rumors of a departure took over.

AMEN!

(09-05-2016 08:16 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 10:48 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 09:35 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

Embarrassing it is, but I can't be too critical of the birdbrains. In 2003 BG came every bit as close to beating tOSU as the Rockets did the last time they played.....and if you look at the two previous UT-tOSU match ups the scores were 38-0 and 49-0 if I remember correctly.

If you remember the 49-0 game, it was 42-0 at halftime and Cooper called off the dogs. The other memories I have of that game is that it was about 90 degrees at game time, Bolden lined up behind the guard to take the snap on the first series, and their defensive backs had more receptions than our receivers did. Pinkel didn't talk about the process after the game, but rather how embarrassed he was that the Toledo team did not compete better. That would have been refreshing to hear about the games against NIU and WMU last year. Instead, we were told it was not the end of the world, it was just a game....blah, blah, blah. In the WMU game the rumors of a departure took over.

I believe that was Chris Wallace.

(09-06-2016 06:00 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 08:16 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 10:48 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 09:35 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  My god, that was embarrassing for a MAC school. Keeping it close for a little while and then all hell broke out. We will all see what the dirty birds record will be at the end of the season.

Embarrassing it is, but I can't be too critical of the birdbrains. In 2003 BG came every bit as close to beating tOSU as the Rockets did the last time they played.....and if you look at the two previous UT-tOSU match ups the scores were 38-0 and 49-0 if I remember correctly.

If you remember the 49-0 game, it was 42-0 at halftime and Cooper called off the dogs. The other memories I have of that game is that it was about 90 degrees at game time, Bolden lined up behind the guard to take the snap on the first series, and their defensive backs had more receptions than our receivers did. Pinkel didn't talk about the process after the game, but rather how embarrassed he was that the Toledo team did not compete better. That would have been refreshing to hear about the games against NIU and WMU last year. Instead, we were told it was not the end of the world, it was just a game....blah, blah, blah. In the WMU game the rumors of a departure took over.

I believe that was Chris Wallace.

Yep. He was actually a pretty good QB for us...just not that game. I was there sitting in the nose bleeds, hot day for a spanking like that.