(09-02-2016 12:03 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Good to see the gloating senior citizens out for a stroll this morning.

I don't post much anymore anyway but I wouldn't say I've been quiet. I had my first post in before you put your teeth in this morning.

With all those pleasantries out of the way, if White - whose first two college years looked Ryan Leaf's pro career - continues to put up numbers like this then it will be clear that it doesn't matter who goes under center, because it's all Brohm's system. Now, I don't want to face that reality because then it will mean that Brandon was just another average Joe that got to be paired with an evil genius as a coach. Because I liked watching that kid play I'm hoping for his sake that it's not all Brohm, but it's starting to look that way.

Kind of like Spurrier and all his QB's in the 90's that in any other system would have them look just like every QB that Vanderbilt has ever had.

One thing I do know is that Brohm is a hell of lot better head coach than his cheating predecessor. So, I give credit where it is due. Great coach. Even better hire. Well done.

Settle down Beavis. Unlike Tennesseans I have all my original teefers even at the ripe old age of 56. But I did roll around and sleep in until 9 this morning since I'm retired. Can't remember how many times I had to roll out of that bed at 5 to get to work after a late night weekday game. It's NICE to be retired.

Are you so binary that it can't be a little of both? Maybe Brandon is a damn fine quarterback and maybe Brohm was a good match for him.

Maybe White's numbers at USF had something to do with being thrown into the fire as a true freshman on a very bad USF team that Willie Taggart (no QB whisperer) inherited.

He was a 3 star (Rivals) out of high school. Had great numbers in high school. Maybe he didn't have the O-Line at USF that he has here. Maybe he didn't have the best receiver in the conference at USF like he does here.

Do you not realize that players can become better under the proper conditions? Like having a guy coaching you that knows a little bit about the position.

I'm not ready to annoint Mike White as better or even as good as Brandon. But I really liked what I saw last night from the young man.

(09-02-2016 12:33 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:10 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 10:02 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:12 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 10:56 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Is that Doughty's latest incarnation? because the current one is struggling to make an impression at Miami Dolphins...

Much of our QB's success is a direct result of a head coach that was a pro QB himself. The system he uses just works

Which do you think makes him a better coach?

His NFL 252 career passing yards, 0 TDs and 5 INTs, passer rating of 26...

Or

His CFL 907 yards, 0 TDs and 5 INTs, passer rating of 61?

I never said he was a stud NFL player. Being a QB his whole life made him a student and now a teacher of that position. I think he is doing a fantastic job, but thanks for going out of your way to try to find a negative

Those were Brian's numbers anyway, as I've already admitted I forgot there were multiple Brohms.

Jeff spent more time in the league and was around all time greats as Jack Bauer pointed out, it was my mistake.

I had responded from your page 2 post without reading the rest of the thread.

(09-02-2016 12:49 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:33 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:10 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 10:02 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:12 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  Much of our QB's success is a direct result of a head coach that was a pro QB himself. The system he uses just works

Which do you think makes him a better coach?

His NFL 252 career passing yards, 0 TDs and 5 INTs, passer rating of 26...

Or

His CFL 907 yards, 0 TDs and 5 INTs, passer rating of 61?

I never said he was a stud NFL player. Being a QB his whole life made him a student and now a teacher of that position. I think he is doing a fantastic job, but thanks for going out of your way to try to find a negative

Those were Brian's numbers anyway, as I've already admitted I forgot there were multiple Brohms.

Jeff spent more time in the league and was around all time greats as Jack Bauer pointed out, it was my mistake.

I had responded from your page 2 post without reading the rest of the thread.

I suspected as much. All good here.

(09-02-2016 12:36 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:03 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Good to see the gloating senior citizens out for a stroll this morning.

I don't post much anymore anyway but I wouldn't say I've been quiet. I had my first post in before you put your teeth in this morning.

With all those pleasantries out of the way, if White - whose first two college years looked Ryan Leaf's pro career - continues to put up numbers like this then it will be clear that it doesn't matter who goes under center, because it's all Brohm's system. Now, I don't want to face that reality because then it will mean that Brandon was just another average Joe that got to be paired with an evil genius as a coach. Because I liked watching that kid play I'm hoping for his sake that it's not all Brohm, but it's starting to look that way.

Kind of like Spurrier and all his QB's in the 90's that in any other system would have them look just like every QB that Vanderbilt has ever had.

One thing I do know is that Brohm is a hell of lot better head coach than his cheating predecessor. So, I give credit where it is due. Great coach. Even better hire. Well done.

Settle down Beavis. Unlike Tennesseans I have all my original teefers even at the ripe old age of 56. But I did roll around and sleep in until 9 this morning since I'm retired. Can't remember how many times I had to roll out of that bed at 5 to get to work after a late night weekday game. It's NICE to be retired.

Are you so binary that it can't be a little of both? Maybe Brandon is a damn fine quarterback and maybe Brohm was a good match for him.

Maybe White's numbers at USF had something to do with being thrown into the fire as a true freshman on a very bad USF team that Willie Taggart (no QB whisperer) inherited.

He was a 3 star (Rivals) out of high school. Had great numbers in high school. Maybe he didn't have the O-Line at USF that he has here. Maybe he didn't have the best receiver in the conference at USF like he does here.

Do you not realize that players can become better under the proper conditions? Like having a guy coaching you that knows a little bit about the position.

I'm not ready to annoint Mike White as better or even as good as Brandon. But I really liked what I saw last night from the young man.

All fair points, so yes. The delta is significant though, but that's what makes the college game great. These college kids are hard to predict.

Sorry I don't have something more pithy to say, but I took off today to celebrate White's coming out party and frankly this Padron 50th and glass of bourbon staring me down aren't going to smoke and drink themselves, so gotta run. Good luck against the Bammers.

(09-02-2016 12:11 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:03 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Good to see the gloating senior citizens out for a stroll this morning.

I don't post much anymore anyway but I wouldn't say I've been quiet. I had my first post in before you put your teeth in this morning.

With all those pleasantries out of the way, if White - whose first two college years looked Ryan Leaf's pro career - continues to put up numbers like this then it will be clear that it doesn't matter who goes under center, because it's all Brohm's system. Now, I don't want to face that reality because then it will mean that Brandon was just another average Joe that got to be paired with an evil genius as a coach. Because I liked watching that kid play I'm hoping for his sake that it's not all Brohm, but it's starting to look that way.

Kind of like Spurrier and all his QB's in the 90's that in any other system would have them look just like every QB that Vanderbilt has ever had.

One thing I do know is that Brohm is a hell of lot better head coach than his cheating predecessor. So, I give credit where it is due. Great coach. Even better hire. Well done.

Tedford, Leach...

No the one at UL - Petrino

no doubt....your Tyndall....be happy that fkr is gone...

I think a lot of people forget how bad Brandon doughty was before brohm got ahold of him. Doughty even quit the team a few games into the 2013 season out of frustration. Very average QB under Petrino. But as soon as Brohm got ahold of him, Doughty became a MONSTER.

(09-02-2016 05:15 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  I think a lot of people forget how bad Brandon doughty was before brohm got ahold of him. Doughty even quit the team a few games into the 2013 season out of frustration. Very average QB under Petrino. But as soon as Brohm got ahold of him, Doughty became a MONSTER.

Can we borrow brohm during a bye week?

(09-02-2016 05:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 05:15 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  I think a lot of people forget how bad Brandon doughty was before brohm got ahold of him. Doughty even quit the team a few games into the 2013 season out of frustration. Very average QB under Petrino. But as soon as Brohm got ahold of him, Doughty became a MONSTER.

Can we borrow brohm during a bye week?

Yeah.... You guys need some help

So Mullens will likely just play the first half versus Rice.

(09-02-2016 12:36 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-02-2016 12:03 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Good to see the gloating senior citizens out for a stroll this morning.

I don't post much anymore anyway but I wouldn't say I've been quiet. I had my first post in before you put your teeth in this morning.

With all those pleasantries out of the way, if White - whose first two college years looked Ryan Leaf's pro career - continues to put up numbers like this then it will be clear that it doesn't matter who goes under center, because it's all Brohm's system. Now, I don't want to face that reality because then it will mean that Brandon was just another average Joe that got to be paired with an evil genius as a coach. Because I liked watching that kid play I'm hoping for his sake that it's not all Brohm, but it's starting to look that way.

Kind of like Spurrier and all his QB's in the 90's that in any other system would have them look just like every QB that Vanderbilt has ever had.

One thing I do know is that Brohm is a hell of lot better head coach than his cheating predecessor. So, I give credit where it is due. Great coach. Even better hire. Well done.

Settle down Beavis. Unlike Tennesseans I have all my original teefers even at the ripe old age of 56. But I did roll around and sleep in until 9 this morning since I'm retired. Can't remember how many times I had to roll out of that bed at 5 to get to work after a late night weekday game. It's NICE to be retired.

Are you so binary that it can't be a little of both? Maybe Brandon is a damn fine quarterback and maybe Brohm was a good match for him.

Maybe White's numbers at USF had something to do with being thrown into the fire as a true freshman on a very bad USF team that Willie Taggart (no QB whisperer) inherited.

He was a 3 star (Rivals) out of high school. Had great numbers in high school. Maybe he didn't have the O-Line at USF that he has here. Maybe he didn't have the best receiver in the conference at USF like he does here.

Do you not realize that players can become better under the proper conditions? Like having a guy coaching you that knows a little bit about the position.

I'm not ready to annoint Mike White as better or even as good as Brandon. But I really liked what I saw last night from the young man.

This is a solid post!

WKU handled their business no doubt but Rice looked like Charlotte out there. Their offense looked like they couldn't move the ball 5 feet and the D was slower than molasses. The play calling was also horrible.

Basically it looked like a Pinto trying to race a Ferrari. WKU will push for the east definitely but Rice was bad. Really bad.

Rice. Enough said.

Here's the problem about putting everything on Rice's defense....


Western made a lot of defenses look as slow as molasses last year. I would guess That might be the case in this first game also. But the season will give us that answer.


Western returned just about everyone but our QB and a TE from that offense...both are on or fighting for a spot on a NFL team. So key players to replace.

(09-03-2016 10:06 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Here's the problem about putting everything on Rice's defense....


Western made a lot of defenses look as slow as molasses last year. I would guess That might be the case in this first game also. But the season will give us that answer.


Western returned just about everyone but our QB and a TE from that offense...both are on or fighting for a spot on a NFL team. So key players to replace.

Here's the thing Guns. You see who is putting Rice down the most. A team that actually looked WORSE than Rice when we played them last year. All you can do is laugh.

And even though it's just one game I was very impressed with our Dee. I've been quiet about our Dee as everyone has been worried about who replaces Brandon. But my spider sense has felt we'd be better on defense this year than last.

(09-03-2016 10:51 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 10:06 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Here's the problem about putting everything on Rice's defense....


Western made a lot of defenses look as slow as molasses last year. I would guess That might be the case in this first game also. But the season will give us that answer.


Western returned just about everyone but our QB and a TE from that offense...both are on or fighting for a spot on a NFL team. So key players to replace.

Here's the thing Guns. You see who is putting Rice down the most. A team that actually looked WORSE than Rice when we played them last year. All you can do is laugh.

And even though it's just one game I was very impressed with our Dee. I've been quiet about our Dee as everyone has been worried about who replaces Brandon. But my spider sense has felt we'd be better on defense this year than last.

I've been high on this defense since I watched a few early practices. You could see a difference in the way they attached the ball...team wise. A few really good playmakers can make you look good on offense. It takes a team effort on defense and I loved what I saw. The way our DB's covered was way better during practice.

A lot of people put that on not having BD throwing it to our receivers. And honestly I thought the same. But then I started noticing everyone of the 3 QBs had a better arm than BD. So it was then decision making. Maybe they were just late finding the receiver...which made the DP look good.


Based off one game I think my first impressions might be correct. Western seems to be a half step to a step (a step is light years in football) closer on coverage. And they are getting there as the ball does....

first time in a few years I think Western knocked a few balls out with a hit on the receiver. Usually we were a 1/2 step late.

Don't know how good Rice is or isn't but I do know a lot of people on this board thought they would be top 3 in the West. We will find out over the next few weeks if this was a one game wonder by White. BD had a game like this against BG two years ago.....

5 ints the next game vs Tenn

I just know I feel better (overall) about this team now that we saw White play than going into last season. I think Western is a more complete team. Time will prove it one way or another

Seriously, Rice was in cover 2 or even cover 1 a lot in this game. They were running zone a lot too which was stupid against that offense. They were terrible. Their offense was actually worse. Y'all can be happy. It's a conference win but Rice was horrible. No other way around it. Unless they improve, they might win 2-3 games at most. They got Army next week and Army just beat Temple. That ain't no walkthrough at all. Army could easily beat them right now the way they're playing.

(09-03-2016 11:08 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  Seriously, Rice was in cover 2 or even cover 1 a lot in this game. They were running zone a lot too which was stupid against that offense. They were terrible. Their offense was actually worse. Y'all can be happy. It's a conference win but Rice was horrible. No other way around it. Unless they improve, they might win 2-3 games at most. They got Army next week and Army just beat Temple. That ain't no walkthrough at all. Army could easily beat them right now the way they're playing.

The butthurt is strong in this one.

(09-03-2016 11:58 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(09-03-2016 11:08 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  Seriously, Rice was in cover 2 or even cover 1 a lot in this game. They were running zone a lot too which was stupid against that offense. They were terrible. Their offense was actually worse. Y'all can be happy. It's a conference win but Rice was horrible. No other way around it. Unless they improve, they might win 2-3 games at most. They got Army next week and Army just beat Temple. That ain't no walkthrough at all. Army could easily beat them right now the way they're playing.

The butthurt is strong in this one.

1. I'm not sure we can still use butthurt anymore.

2. The whatever we're allowed to use in place of butthurt is strong in many of the Middle fans. Chalk it up to them praying to Boots Donnelly that we wouldn't find a replacement for Brandon and when we did their collars just got a bit tighter after watching Thursday.

3. Although JT seems to exhibit some whatever we're allowed to use in place of butthurt I've seen him give Western props in the past. He's even came to games up here if I'm remembering correctly. Chalk up JT's worries about us to my #2 answer.

(09-01-2016 10:56 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Is that Doughty's latest incarnation? because the current one is struggling to make an impression at Miami Dolphins...

Not so fast my friend he made the team with a solid performance vs. the Titans..

(09-02-2016 07:43 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I have a question for Rice fans. I didn't see the game, but did your guys just not even try?

I mean the yards are one thing. Obviously, Brohm has developed a damn good system, so you can understand they are going to put up yards regardless. But I'm trying to figure out how you allow a guy who a) barely has a 50% career completion percentage and b) has completed 60% or better of his passes only one time in 17 previous games to complete 80% of his passes in his first game in a new offense.

It's almost like you had to not even try.

Dude just stop...