(09-01-2016 12:42 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  There's really only a list of 6.

UConn
BYU
UC
UCF
USF
UH

It'll be decided from there. Tulsa, SMU and Rice are professional/political courtesies. With a huge chunk of eastern teams, they're not going west (except maybe BYU). Temple is not even close, another point to show that academics are important, the other factors still remain. These will be the final six announced next and then the actual expansion teams in October. Who that'll be, I don't know.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree and think you're underestimating how much they value a huge TV market.

(09-01-2016 12:42 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  There's really only a list of 6.

UConn
BYU
UC
UCF
USF
UH

It'll be decided from there. Tulsa, SMU and Rice are professional/political courtesies. With a huge chunk of eastern teams, they're not going west (except maybe BYU). Temple is not even close, another point to show that academics are important, the other factors still remain. These will be the final six announced next and then the actual expansion teams in October. Who that'll be, I don't know.

Agreed. I think those are the six who are under serious consideration. While BYU is strong, they make the "island" problem worse, so when considering that plus the LGBT stuff and other issues like Sunday play, I think the miss the cut. So I've had two mixes getting in.

UC and UConn plus Houston and one FL school
UC and UConn plus both FL schools.

This has already been done, and Cincy and UH won. Temple was the #16 seed, BTW.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ket-081516

(09-01-2016 01:12 PM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:42 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  There's really only a list of 6.

UConn
BYU
UC
UCF
USF
UH

It'll be decided from there. Tulsa, SMU and Rice are professional/political courtesies. With a huge chunk of eastern teams, they're not going west (except maybe BYU). Temple is not even close, another point to show that academics are important, the other factors still remain. These will be the final six announced next and then the actual expansion teams in October. Who that'll be, I don't know.

Agreed. I think those are the six who are under serious consideration. While BYU is strong, they make the "island" problem worse, so when considering that plus the LGBT stuff and other issues like Sunday play, I think the miss the cut. So I've had two mixes getting in.

UC and UConn plus Houston and one FL school
UC and UConn plus both FL schools.

Cincinnati alum/fan I would be happy regardless would join us if we were invited to the conference. That being said, there is a part of me that would be happy if UConn and USF joined us due to our shared Big East history.

(09-01-2016 12:46 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:42 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  There's really only a list of 6.

UConn
BYU
UC
UCF
USF
UH

It'll be decided from there. Tulsa, SMU and Rice are professional/political courtesies. With a huge chunk of eastern teams, they're not going west (except maybe BYU). Temple is not even close, another point to show that academics are important, the other factors still remain. These will be the final six announced next and then the actual expansion teams in October. Who that'll be, I don't know.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree and think you're underestimating how much they value a huge TV market.

Umm, as a UCF fan, TV market is one of our biggest assets, so I'm definitely not underestimating TV market. I'm not the decision maker in the Big12, either. However, I think this group is the core six. But we'll see. Who knew about Memphis, right?

(09-01-2016 01:17 PM)Kronke Wrote:  This has already been done, and Cincy and UH won. Temple was the #16 seed, BTW.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ket-081516

Thanks for posting this! I don't go to Fox Sports as often as other sites (cbssports/espn mostly).

And I admit that Temple as a 2 seed was high. In my original "by the numbers" post I discuss my methodology and why they ended up with such a high rank. Short answer: probably an artificial boost in attendance last year, decent basketball and academics, and market size.

16 out of 18 seems low on the other hand.

It needs to be double elimination if it's two schools. Quintuple elimination if it's four.

(09-01-2016 01:31 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:46 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:42 PM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  There's really only a list of 6.

UConn
BYU
UC
UCF
USF
UH

It'll be decided from there. Tulsa, SMU and Rice are professional/political courtesies. With a huge chunk of eastern teams, they're not going west (except maybe BYU). Temple is not even close, another point to show that academics are important, the other factors still remain. These will be the final six announced next and then the actual expansion teams in October. Who that'll be, I don't know.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree and think you're underestimating how much they value a huge TV market.

Umm, as a UCF fan, TV market is one of our biggest assets, so I'm definitely not underestimating TV market. I'm not the decision maker in the Big12, either. However, I think this group is the core six. But we'll see. Who knew about Memphis, right?

And you still don't know about Memphis.......

Current standings, based on recent head-to-head games amongst the candidates
(P5 record in parenthesis, but didn't count Rutgers, Syracuse, or Pitt for P5 record):

Boise St. 8-2 (9-5 v. P5)
BYU 9-4 (11-18 v. P5)
UCF 11-6 (5-9 v. P5)
Cincinnati 12-8 (8-13 v. P5)
Houston 8-8 (6-6 v. P5)
Memphis 7-10 (2-10 v. P5)
USF 8-12 (4-16 v. P5)
UConn 7-14 (4-12 v. P5)
Colorado St. 0-6 (3-10 v. P5)