Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

I know your trolling but I agree! All 12 schools of the American are P5 ready that's why the American was formed. Temple is an emerging Giant. Serious.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-atkins/temple-should-be-at-the-t_b_9898980.html

A Temple University journalism professor makes a number of good points why the Big 12 should be seriously considering Temple as their #1 expansion target:

- Size of the television market (2.9 million homes)

- Temple football has turned itself around from its unsuccessful past, becoming bowl eligible 5 of the past 8 years

- 2015 Temple football record: 10-4, winning AAC East Division

- The current Temple administration is solidly behind the football program and understands the value it can bring to a university

- Last year, Temple averaged over 44,000 fans per game, an increase of over 20,000 from the year before

- Temple currently plays at the NFL's Lincoln Financial Field, an excellent pro facility, and is working to build a new state of the art stadium on campus

- Academically, Temple is in the upper half of the expansion candidates, currently tied at 115th in the US News Rankings for National Universities, well ahead of Colorado State (tied at 127), Cincinnati (Tied at 140), South Florida (Tied at 156), Central Florida (tied at 168), Houston (tied at 187), and, presumably, Memphis (RNP, Rank Not Published and not listed in the top 200)


Other things to consider:

- Philadelphia is the #4 media market in the country http://www.janson.com/rights/top-50-u-s-markets/

- At #4, Temple/Philadelphia would instantly become the largest media market in the Big 12, eclipsing even TCU in #5 market Dallas/Ft Worth TX

- Temple's media market is far larger than other frequently mentioned possible expansion media markets Houston (#10), USF (#14 - Tampa FL), Colorado State (#17 - Denver CO), UCF (#19 - Orlando FL), UConn (#30 - Hartford CT), Cincinnati (#35), Memphis (#49), Tulane (#51 - New Orleans LA)

- Tapping into the largest media market available a logical step, and follows what the Big Ten have done with large universities in high population areas: Rutgers (#1 - New York NY) and Maryland (#7 - Washington DC); also the SEC with Texas A&M (#10 - Houston) and Missouri (#21 - St Louis MO & #31 Kansas City MO)


I admire the writer's line of thinking; it is logical and follows the line of thought that network TV executives and Big 12 presidents must be thinking about: "What universities bring demonstrated monetary value? How & why? What are the relevant facts?"

- Temple is the 2nd largest university in football talent rich Pennsylvania.

- PA is contiguous to West Virginia, thus providing WVU with a travel partner.

- Temple and WVU are only 300 miles apart [5 hr drive]; approximately the same distance as WVU to Cincinnati

- Philadelphia has a major airport for ease of travel

- Philadelphia media market is relatively close to the other large media markets of NYC and Washington DC, where many Big 12 graduates live & work

- Texas and Pennsylvania residents are used to a similar NFL rivalry in the Dallas Cowboys vs the Philadelphia Eagles

The article's author closes with this thought: "Right now, Temple isn’t being mentioned as a candidate, but that should change. If the media and the Big 12 examines the situation with an open mind, the Owls could swoop in and surprise everyone."

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

(09-01-2016 08:19 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

Temple and UConn could turn into a really great rivalry if we got the call up together.

(09-01-2016 08:19 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

This is quite unfair (as it was a different administration) but Temple is still stung by the BE expulsion when their admin really just wanted to kill football but didn't succeed. Sucks for the diehard Temple fans.

If Temple made the cut, I can really see them getting an invite. Having a #4 TV market in the Big 12 will help for TV renewals. Having a Temple team as a P5 vs a G5 will make a big difference.

Earlier this month Big12 Fanatics posted a piece that brings up a lot of strong points in Temples favor. What’s nice about the piece is it’s not written by a Temple supporter and lists more facts than personal opinions.

http://big12fanatics.com/the-expansion-project-temple/

Quote: “This Spring I released part of the Expansion Project that mentioned Temple as a dark horse candidate for the Big 12 and was mocked rather handedly. Yes, they started as a Baptist college and, yes, they got kicked out of the Big East for what is affectionately called, “program shortcomings”, which basically means they didn’t support football and were not competitive. However, when they appeared on the list of schools presenting to the Big 12, I wasn’t surprised. A review of the numbers shows the university may have a lot more of what the Big 12 is looking for than many give them credit. Don’t believe me? Read on.”

(09-01-2016 09:22 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  Earlier this month Big12 Fanatics posted a piece that brings up a lot of strong points in Temples favor. What’s nice about the piece is it’s not written by a Temple supporter and lists more facts than personal opinions.

http://big12fanatics.com/the-expansion-project-temple/

Quote: “This Spring I released part of the Expansion Project that mentioned Temple as a dark horse candidate for the Big 12 and was mocked rather handedly. Yes, they started as a Baptist college and, yes, they got kicked out of the Big East for what is affectionately called, “program shortcomings”, which basically means they didn’t support football and were not competitive. However, when they appeared on the list of schools presenting to the Big 12, I wasn’t surprised. A review of the numbers shows the university may have a lot more of what the Big 12 is looking for than many give them credit. Don’t believe me? Read on.”

Pretty cool stuff.

inside sources tell me that the Big 12 could possibly come to an eventual decision. There are multiple options for them to consider and after they meet and discuss and review then they may decide to take a vote and offer a couple of schools a position in the Big 12. They also may decide not to invite anyone. Temple may or may not still be an option once the reviews and meetings and discussions take place.

(09-01-2016 02:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  inside sources tell me that the Big 12 could possibly come to an eventual decision. There are multiple options for them to consider and after they meet and discuss and review then they may decide to take a vote and offer a couple of schools a position in the Big 12. They also may decide not to invite anyone. Temple may or may not still be an option once the reviews and meetings and discussions take place.

Source?

(09-01-2016 08:26 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 08:19 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

This is quite unfair (as it was a different administration) but Temple is still stung by the BE expulsion when their admin really just wanted to kill football but didn't succeed. Sucks for the diehard Temple fans.

Glass half empty view. Temple is the only school in the Big East to get accepted twice! They were more wanted than any other BE school.


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(09-01-2016 08:26 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 08:19 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

This is quite unfair (as it was a different administration) but Temple is still stung by the BE expulsion when their admin really just wanted to kill football but didn't succeed. Sucks for the diehard Temple fans.

How many times were you invited to the Big East?

(09-02-2016 11:57 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 08:26 AM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 08:19 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 07:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Temple could be a great fit for the Big12. They have location for both TV and recruiting. They are a stealthy school flying under the radar. They beat PSU last year when no one thought they could. They're the type of school that could sneak in and before you even knew that someone put their spoon in your pudding cup...

... they could be announced as the newest members of the Big12.

The reality is probably so, the perception, not so much. I'd certainly love to see Temple plus UConn and Cinci, but I'm not counting on it.

This is quite unfair (as it was a different administration) but Temple is still stung by the BE expulsion when their admin really just wanted to kill football but didn't succeed. Sucks for the diehard Temple fans.

How many times were you invited to the Big East?

Three more than we were asked to leave. Two more than Temple.