http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/col...hka2g2jt4j

Quote:Bleacher Report's Mike Freeman took the temperature this week of league executives in the context of Kaepernick and his protest. He found out those officials, for the most part, hate Kaepernick and his stance — literally hate.

"I don't want him anywhere near my team," one executive told Freeman. "He's a traitor."

Said another exec: "He has no respect for our country. F— that guy."

And from a general manager: "In my career, I have never seen a guy so hated by front office guys as Kaepernick."

Freeman interviewed seven executives and said each estimates "90 to 95 percent of NFL front offices felt the same way they did," and one even compared the "collective dislike" to that of Rae Carruth, a former player who remains jailed on charges in the murder of his pregnant girlfriend.

The #1 Bills' beat reporter felt compelled to write an exhaustive column as to why Krappy wouldn't fit in with the Bills. The question was raised because the Bills offensive coordinator is Greg Roman who coached Krappy during his good season at SF.

However, I got the feeling that it was just trying to give the team cover for not picking him up if (when?) he is cut by 49ers.

He could have easily wrote that the Bills wouldn't want him cause he's an a**hole.

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 07:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 10:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  At this point I'm inclined to think he is just doing this for attention.

+1. He's getting ready to get fired for lack of talent in the field. This is a desperate cry for attention.

Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Silly.

Against the Packers 263 passing; 181 rushing 4 total TDs; Defense gave up 31
Against the Falcons 16/21 233 yrds 1 TD; Defense let Ryan throw for 400 yards.

Agree with your second paragraph. Its why Newton has surged after struggling early on.

Also, the Pig socks at yesterday's practice just eliminated the benefit of the doubt I was giving him. They may stuff him on the practice squad because of the cap hit, but he's not playing in the NFL again.

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 07:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 10:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  At this point I'm inclined to think he is just doing this for attention.

+1. He's getting ready to get fired for lack of talent in the field. This is a desperate cry for attention.

Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Considering the injury to Bridgewater on the Vikings, Kaepernick may have a team to play for if he gets cut......

(09-01-2016 10:04 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Considering the injury to Bridgewater on the Vikings, Kaepernick may have a team to play for if he gets cut......

This has in fact been discussed in Viking forums but it's unlikely. Kap is still the most talented QB on the 49ers roster.

Secondly, Bridgewater is a pocket passer. He isn't really known for running the ball.

(09-01-2016 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 07:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 10:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  At this point I'm inclined to think he is just doing this for attention.

+1. He's getting ready to get fired for lack of talent in the field. This is a desperate cry for attention.

Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

(08-31-2016 05:52 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/col...hka2g2jt4j

Quote:Bleacher Report's Mike Freeman took the temperature this week of league executives in the context of Kaepernick and his protest. He found out those officials, for the most part, hate Kaepernick and his stance — literally hate.

"I don't want him anywhere near my team," one executive told Freeman. "He's a traitor."

Said another exec: "He has no respect for our country. F— that guy."

And from a general manager: "In my career, I have never seen a guy so hated by front office guys as Kaepernick."

Freeman interviewed seven executives and said each estimates "90 to 95 percent of NFL front offices felt the same way they did," and one even compared the "collective dislike" to that of Rae Carruth, a former player who remains jailed on charges in the murder of his pregnant girlfriend.

(09-01-2016 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 07:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  +1. He's getting ready to get fired for lack of talent in the field. This is a desperate cry for attention.

Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

(09-01-2016 10:04 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Considering the injury to Bridgewater on the Vikings, Kaepernick may have a team to play for if he gets cut......

Bengals have AJ McCarron on the cheap for 1 more year. Wonder if the Vikings have made a call?

(09-01-2016 11:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

(08-31-2016 12:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 07:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 10:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  At this point I'm inclined to think he is just doing this for attention.

+1. He's getting ready to get fired for lack of talent in the field. This is a desperate cry for attention.

Lack of talent? You are talking about a QB that led the 49ers to the SuperBowl.

This guy was a victim of a very, very bad coach last year.

There's that "v" word again.

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(09-01-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Kaepernick didn't lead the 49ers to the Super Bowl their 3rd ranked in the NFL defense did.

The only thing he was a victim of was his limited ability in the passing game. The early success he had was much like RGIII in that his running ability masked his lack of talent in the passing game. Once teams began to scheme to contain him in the pocket, just like teams started to do with RGIII, his already not great production in the passing game dropped like a rock. Unlike other dual-threat QBs like Russell Wilson and Michael Vick he was unable to make teams pay when they took a player out of coverage to spy him in the running game. Unless he makes a major leap in his passing ability he's destined to be a backup from here on out in the NFL because of the limits he puts on an offensive attack.

Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

(09-01-2016 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Nope. That wasn't the case at all. The new coach tried to make him a pocket passer.

I remember his first game very well because they played and beat my Vikings. The announcers talked for a long time about how they revamped his approach to QB. They asked him to make more than one read and stay in the pocket.

This was all on the coach. That is the reason why they fired him. If it was all about the defense, they still would have been good last year.

Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

Turnovers are turnovers. Both result in the other team getting the ball.

And Bridgewater isn't in an offensive scheme dependent on the QB making plays. Kaepernick was and especially now is and thus far he's proven he's not capable of doing so.

(09-01-2016 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Jim Tomsula was only his coach for one season, 2015, and he missed a significant portion of that season due to injury. Kaepernick's QB rating has declined every year since his best career year in 2012 so explain how someone who coached him only in 2015 had effects in 2013 and 2014.

He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

Turnovers are turnovers. Both result in the other team getting the ball.

And Bridgewater isn't in an offensive scheme dependent on the QB making plays. Kaepernick was and especially now is and thus far he's proven he's not capable of doing so.

You basically just proved my entire point. Kap was playing in the wrong offense which is dictated by the coach. A coach that tried to change the player rather than the offense.

(09-01-2016 12:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 11:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  He threw for 21 TD's in 2013 and 19 in 2014. That isn't exactly falling off the cliff.

By way of comparison, Bridgewater threw for 14 TD's and they went 11-5 and went to the playoffs.

He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

Turnovers are turnovers. Both result in the other team getting the ball.

And Bridgewater isn't in an offensive scheme dependent on the QB making plays. Kaepernick was and especially now is and thus far he's proven he's not capable of doing so.

You basically just proved my entire point. Kap was playing in the wrong offense which is dictated by the coach. A coach that tried to change the player rather than the offense.

And you are missing the point. They had to move towards a more pass oriented offense because of the fact that teams schemed to take away the run to force Kaepernick to beat them with his arm instead of his legs and he can't do it. While Bridgewater isn't expected to carry the offense he's proven capable of making teams pay when they stack the box to stop Adrian Peterson. When teams stacked the box to stop Frank Gore and/or Carlos Hyde Kaepernick was unable to make them pay and that's why he's currently watching Blaine Gabbert from the bench.

(09-01-2016 01:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  He also turned the ball over 12 times in 2013 and 15 times in 2014 compared to only 5 times in 2012. Funny how that happened when teams started scheming to force him to beat them with his arm instead of his feet.

But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

Turnovers are turnovers. Both result in the other team getting the ball.

And Bridgewater isn't in an offensive scheme dependent on the QB making plays. Kaepernick was and especially now is and thus far he's proven he's not capable of doing so.

You basically just proved my entire point. Kap was playing in the wrong offense which is dictated by the coach. A coach that tried to change the player rather than the offense.

And you are missing the point. They had to move towards a more pass oriented offense because of the fact that teams schemed to take away the run to force Kaepernick to beat them with his arm instead of his legs and he can't do it. While Bridgewater isn't expected to carry the offense he's proven capable of making teams pay when they stack the box to stop Adrian Peterson. When teams stacked the box to stop Frank Gore and/or Carlos Hyde Kaepernick was unable to make them pay and that's why he's currently watching Blaine Gabbert from the bench.

Kap had playoff caliber numbers even after defenses schemed to force him to pass. You yourself said they had a good defense. Why on earth would they need to become more pass oriented? According to you, they had an awesome defense.

Poor Colin, he has been swayed by a woman.....

(09-01-2016 01:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 01:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-01-2016 12:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  But not all of those turnovers were interceptions. He only had 8 in 2013 and 10 in 2014.

Again by comparison, Bridgewater had 9 and went 11-5 last year.

Turnovers are turnovers. Both result in the other team getting the ball.

And Bridgewater isn't in an offensive scheme dependent on the QB making plays. Kaepernick was and especially now is and thus far he's proven he's not capable of doing so.

You basically just proved my entire point. Kap was playing in the wrong offense which is dictated by the coach. A coach that tried to change the player rather than the offense.

And you are missing the point. They had to move towards a more pass oriented offense because of the fact that teams schemed to take away the run to force Kaepernick to beat them with his arm instead of his legs and he can't do it. While Bridgewater isn't expected to carry the offense he's proven capable of making teams pay when they stack the box to stop Adrian Peterson. When teams stacked the box to stop Frank Gore and/or Carlos Hyde Kaepernick was unable to make them pay and that's why he's currently watching Blaine Gabbert from the bench.

Kap had playoff caliber numbers even after defenses schemed to force him to pass. You yourself said they had a good defense. Why on earth would they need to become more pass oriented? According to you, they had an awesome defense.

Because you have to score more than the other team to win and you can't count on the defense to score for you.