(09-01-2016 06:24 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  Optimistic already corrected the candy bar price, although I'm fairly sure that Neely coached when candy bars were a nickel also.

Truly, I am not sure one way or the other about the price. Neely was here until 1966.

Probably a nickel in his first year, not sure about the last year.

But I am sure the candy bars were bigger.

(09-01-2016 06:24 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  Potential GoodOwl Fact (and this is a fact): A significant number of the current Rice Owl football players would never have made any of Jess Neely's standout teams.

Perspective: They would not have even been allowed to enter the locker room. But it wouldn't had anything to do with whether they were athletically capable of competing on the field.

Good point, Rick. Which does remind me of something:

In doing the research on Rice's past Athletic Directors in the "Transformation vs Incrementalism" thread I often was confronted with Rice's (and our country's for that matter) rather ugly racial and sexist past. One finding about the "name" of a former Rice groundskeeper which was happily printed over and over again particularly struck me as painful, even while attempting to spin a positive light on this man and his achievements for Rice. Until you actually confront the reality in black and white on the page, pardon the pun, it is easy to forget how different things were then, or how far we have truly come. I also ran across numerous stories about the integration of our and other colleges teams, and, coed dorms, and more. I have learned a lot, and it has been fascinating to research into it, although I have gotten off on a tangent more than once, which as you might guess, is a weakness.

Doing that research has been more of a pain that I would have thought as few pictures and documents are available for such an important part of Rice sports history, and a lot of the stuff that I could find after digging is not easily copy-able, but has to be had typed word for word, as it is not searchable text format (and I'm not the most proficient typist.) I hope to finish the research and bring it to date in the next few weeks, so be patient. Please refrain from more comments in that thread until I finish, so it will keep all the information in consecutive posts together. But it's worth a look if you, like me, were wondering or wanting to learn more about what exactly happened over the last hundred years of Rice sports that helped get us where we are now, and a bit more on who some of these people were. I look forward to that discussion once the research is more or less complete. I believe for us to move forward we have to have a clearer idea of what mistakes and successes happened in our past.

It's a battle of undefeated teams for 1st place in conference standings. Let's go Owls.