From the article:

The NCAA's investigation into Ole Miss athletics has taken what Yahoo! Sports' Pat Forde is calling a "new twist" in the last month: The NCAA is now interviewing other SEC players about the Rebels' recruiting practices.

Since the NCAA does not have subpoena power, enforcement officials can get student-athletes from other schools to offer their accounts of potential violations by granting immunity. According to the report, this is how NCAA officials were able to get interviews during visits to Auburn, Mississippi State and "perhaps at least one more SEC Western Division school."

Neither the NCAA nor Ole Miss will comment on the details of ongoing investigations.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-ole-miss/

(08-25-2016 09:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

The NCAA's investigation into Ole Miss athletics has taken what Yahoo! Sports' Pat Forde is calling a "new twist" in the last month: The NCAA is now interviewing other SEC players about the Rebels' recruiting practices.

Since the NCAA does not have subpoena power, enforcement officials can get student-athletes from other schools to offer their accounts of potential violations by granting immunity. According to the report, this is how NCAA officials were able to get interviews during visits to Auburn, Mississippi State and "perhaps at least one more SEC Western Division school."

Neither the NCAA nor Ole Miss will comment on the details of ongoing investigations.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-ole-miss/

If SEC schools start ratting on each other, things could get interesting fast :popcorn:

(08-25-2016 09:34 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 09:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

The NCAA's investigation into Ole Miss athletics has taken what Yahoo! Sports' Pat Forde is calling a "new twist" in the last month: The NCAA is now interviewing other SEC players about the Rebels' recruiting practices.

Since the NCAA does not have subpoena power, enforcement officials can get student-athletes from other schools to offer their accounts of potential violations by granting immunity. According to the report, this is how NCAA officials were able to get interviews during visits to Auburn, Mississippi State and "perhaps at least one more SEC Western Division school."

Neither the NCAA nor Ole Miss will comment on the details of ongoing investigations.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-ole-miss/

If SEC schools start ratting on each other, things could get interesting fast :popcorn:

It would be popcorn worthy indeed...

(08-25-2016 09:34 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 09:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

The NCAA's investigation into Ole Miss athletics has taken what Yahoo! Sports' Pat Forde is calling a "new twist" in the last month: The NCAA is now interviewing other SEC players about the Rebels' recruiting practices.

Since the NCAA does not have subpoena power, enforcement officials can get student-athletes from other schools to offer their accounts of potential violations by granting immunity. According to the report, this is how NCAA officials were able to get interviews during visits to Auburn, Mississippi State and "perhaps at least one more SEC Western Division school."

Neither the NCAA nor Ole Miss will comment on the details of ongoing investigations.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-ole-miss/

If SEC schools start ratting on each other, things could get interesting fast :popcorn:

I doubt the schools would break the code of silence, since they likely all have mutually assured destruction when it comes to ratting on each other. Individual players, however, may not be as worried about that as coaches would.

Is it just ticky-tack stuff (i.e., some asst coast sent too many text messages to a recruit) or big time violations (money under the table to recruit or family members)??

(08-25-2016 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 09:34 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 09:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

The NCAA's investigation into Ole Miss athletics has taken what Yahoo! Sports' Pat Forde is calling a "new twist" in the last month: The NCAA is now interviewing other SEC players about the Rebels' recruiting practices.

Since the NCAA does not have subpoena power, enforcement officials can get student-athletes from other schools to offer their accounts of potential violations by granting immunity. According to the report, this is how NCAA officials were able to get interviews during visits to Auburn, Mississippi State and "perhaps at least one more SEC Western Division school."

Neither the NCAA nor Ole Miss will comment on the details of ongoing investigations.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...-ole-miss/

If SEC schools start ratting on each other, things could get interesting fast :popcorn:

I doubt the schools would break the code of silence, since they likely all have mutually assured destruction when it comes to ratting on each other. Individual players, however, may not be as worried about that as coaches would.

If there are players who were offered substantial "benefits" by Ole Miss boosters but went to another team instead, it's likely that Ole Miss' "offers" were outbid (or at least matched) at the team the player(s) ended up with.

But this is more problematic for Ole Miss than the other teams. Players are much less likely to rat out their current team, but they might be willing to throw a school they didn't go to under the bus.

(08-25-2016 11:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Is it just ticky-tack stuff (i.e., some asst coast sent too many text messages to a recruit) or big time violations (money under the table to recruit or family members)??

Did you not see the NFL draft? One of their first round picks, who as soon as he was selected, one of his family members posted on Instagram or Twitter text messages showing payments being made by a coach to a players family. That is what triggered the whole thing.

So it's not ticky tack stuff. At least the origin wasn't.

(08-25-2016 01:32 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 11:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Is it just ticky-tack stuff (i.e., some asst coast sent too many text messages to a recruit) or big time violations (money under the table to recruit or family members)??

Did you not see the NFL draft? One of their first round picks, who as soon as he was selected, one of his family members posted on Instagram or Twitter text messages showing payments being made by a coach to a players family. That is what triggered the whole thing.

So it's not ticky tack stuff. At least the origin wasn't.

Ole Miss has been way out of bounds and everyone around here knows it. The coaches and schools may not be calling out Ole Miss, but IMO if the players who were recruited by Ole Miss and who went elsewhere make comment it will not be considered the same as a coach or school turning on another. IMO players who were recruited by Ole Miss are fair game for the NCAA. Ole Miss has been way beyond the norm, even for the SEC. I think it's pretty serious.

Very true JR. I just meant the Draft is what sort of forced the issue, whereas before it seemed like a blind eye was turned.

NCAA infractions are a cyclical thing.
Coaches by nature are paranoid emeffers.
So you will get a cycle of ticky tacky violations. See a kid on the wrong day or call wrong day, minor crap.
Then word gets around and assumption is someone is going way over the line.
Finally someone figures them SOB's are cheating I have to as well and we get into improper benefit territory.
Now someone else is a cheating SOB so if they are doing it we gotta.

Eventually some assistant gets pissed or some athlete gets pissed and then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down with people flipping others right and left.

League finally takes a law and order mindset and everything rolls along smoothly until the process repeats.

Remember Mike Slive was hired by the SEC for his enforcement chops because the SEC had just emerged from such a cycle.

(08-25-2016 01:45 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Very true JR. I just meant the Draft is what sort of forced the issue, whereas before it seemed like a blind eye was turned.

The Draft certainly nationalized it. But a few years ago when the recruits were waiving wads of cash on their Facebook pages it got noticed. I agree it was buried, but it is those images that the comments resurrected. If anything it allowed Ole Miss to develop and negative track record which will make refuting isolated cases even harder to do.

I really don't care. If North Carolina can away with years of academic fraud, I am not going to crusade against Ole Miss.

(08-25-2016 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  NCAA infractions are a cyclical thing.
Coaches by nature are paranoid emeffers.
So you will get a cycle of ticky tacky violations. See a kid on the wrong day or call wrong day, minor crap.
Then word gets around and assumption is someone is going way over the line.
Finally someone figures them SOB's are cheating I have to as well and we get into improper benefit territory.
Now someone else is a cheating SOB so if they are doing it we gotta.

Eventually some assistant gets pissed or some athlete gets pissed and then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down with people flipping others right and left.

League finally takes a law and order mindset and everything rolls along smoothly until the process repeats.

Remember Mike Slive was hired by the SEC for his enforcement chops because the SEC had just emerged from such a cycle.

Saw several articles, including a quote by him, saying one of the most important things he did was to get the SEC schools to quit reporting each other. That is a pretty sad legacy.

(08-25-2016 04:33 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I really don't care. If North Carolina can away with years of academic fraud, I am not going to crusade against Ole Miss.

True indeed. It appears no one anywhere is really all that concerned with UNC's serious misdeeds. The incentive to cheat without fear of any significant repercussions is higher than it has been since the formation of the NCAA (which was ironically formed to end the widespread academic and athletic corruption inherent in college football since the inception of the sport). Of course, with Mississippi under the considerable scrutiny of the NCAA, I would be fearful at Mississippi Valley State.

The whole SEC has been watching what has gone on at Ole Miss in muted horror since that recruiting class' final ranking.

(08-26-2016 12:04 PM)Bronco85 Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 04:33 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I really don't care. If North Carolina can away with years of academic fraud, I am not going to crusade against Ole Miss.

True indeed. It appears no one anywhere is really all that concerned with UNC's serious misdeeds. The incentive to cheat without fear of any significant repercussions is higher than it has been since the formation of the NCAA (which was ironically formed to end the widespread academic and athletic corruption inherent in college football since the inception of the sport). Of course, with Mississippi under the considerable scrutiny of the NCAA, I would be fearful at Mississippi Valley State.

To me what UNC did is the grossest violation of the rules. It makes a mockery of requiring the students to be athletes and degrades the value of the degree for the rest of the university's students.

(08-26-2016 06:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The whole SEC has been watching what has gone on at Ole Miss in muted horror since that recruiting class' final ranking.

They were ok doing it once. When they did it twice in 4 years they got in trouble.

(08-26-2016 08:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-26-2016 06:05 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The whole SEC has been watching what has gone on at Ole Miss in muted horror since that recruiting class' final ranking.

They were ok doing it once. When they did it twice in 4 years they got in trouble.

Blatant amatuer cheatin. SEC only allows high quality cheatin

(08-25-2016 04:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  NCAA infractions are a cyclical thing.
Coaches by nature are paranoid emeffers.
So you will get a cycle of ticky tacky violations. See a kid on the wrong day or call wrong day, minor crap.
Then word gets around and assumption is someone is going way over the line.
Finally someone figures them SOB's are cheating I have to as well and we get into improper benefit territory.
Now someone else is a cheating SOB so if they are doing it we gotta.

Eventually some assistant gets pissed or some athlete gets pissed and then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down with people flipping others right and left.

League finally takes a law and order mindset and everything rolls along smoothly until the process repeats.

Remember Mike Slive was hired by the SEC for his enforcement chops because the SEC had just emerged from such a cycle.

Saw several articles, including a quote by him, saying one of the most important things he did was to get the SEC schools to quit reporting each other. That is a pretty sad legacy.

In other news...the SEC simultaneously rose to the top of college football at the end of Slive's tenure.

But that's just because of the hot weather and pretty girls, right?

(08-27-2016 01:42 PM)allthatyoucantleavebehind Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 04:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-25-2016 02:11 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  NCAA infractions are a cyclical thing.
Coaches by nature are paranoid emeffers.
So you will get a cycle of ticky tacky violations. See a kid on the wrong day or call wrong day, minor crap.
Then word gets around and assumption is someone is going way over the line.
Finally someone figures them SOB's are cheating I have to as well and we get into improper benefit territory.
Now someone else is a cheating SOB so if they are doing it we gotta.

Eventually some assistant gets pissed or some athlete gets pissed and then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down with people flipping others right and left.

League finally takes a law and order mindset and everything rolls along smoothly until the process repeats.

Remember Mike Slive was hired by the SEC for his enforcement chops because the SEC had just emerged from such a cycle.

Saw several articles, including a quote by him, saying one of the most important things he did was to get the SEC schools to quit reporting each other. That is a pretty sad legacy.

In other news...the SEC simultaneously rose to the top of college football at the end of Slive's tenure.

But that's just because of the hot weather and pretty girls, right?

Well, they certainly weren't coming for the little boys.