(08-23-2016 09:13 PM)doberman1 Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 01:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 01:10 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 12:29 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  ESPN wanted to do the same for App-Miami, App said no, I'm glad Miami agreed not to move it. Sorry guys.

Actually you screwed us.

stAte got screwed just cause.

Thankfully it's not the worst Friday Night for us. It's opening week of High School season, but all 4 Jonesboro High Schools are either on the road or play earlier in the week.

It will hurt, but probably not as much as it would have a few weeks later.

We have 5 area high schools. I think Brookland plays at home that night. But you are right, it could be much worse.

Yes, but Brookland is not a Jonesboro High School, though they get some Jonesboro kids I'm sure.

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

(08-23-2016 10:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

Thing is, a pecking order will never happen with us because there is no way our administration would ever even consider a CUSA invite. We get in out of the Sun Belt, or we don't get in at all.

All told, I think we'll be down about 3000 due to games all over NEA. High School players, coaches, cheer squads, bands, and parents who would normally be there will be occupied elsewhere. We'll have to get folks from somewhere else. I'm still hoping for a sellout or close to it.

(08-24-2016 01:18 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 10:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

Thing is, a pecking order will never happen with us because there is no way our administration would ever even consider a CUSA invite. We get in out of the Sun Belt, or we don't get in at all.

The A-State administration would have to consider what the SBC would look like if any two of its top programs left. I doubt that the A-State administration (or you) would still feel that way if two of App St, GA Southern, or ULL left for CUSA.

This situation is not unique to the Sun Belt Conference. Every G5 conference is in the same boat. Three to five years from now it may not matter what G5 conference one is in, but it does for now, especially when it comes to realignment. The perceived pecking order of AAC>MWC>MAC>CUSA>SBC is still very much in place.

(08-24-2016 05:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 01:18 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 10:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

Thing is, a pecking order will never happen with us because there is no way our administration would ever even consider a CUSA invite. We get in out of the Sun Belt, or we don't get in at all.

The A-State administration would have to consider what the SBC would look like if any two of its top programs left. I doubt that the A-State administration (or you) would still feel that way if two of App St, GA Southern, or ULL left for CUSA.

This situation is not unique to the Sun Belt Conference. Every G5 conference is in the same boat. Three to five years from now it may not matter what G5 conference one is in, but it does for now, especially when it comes to realignment. The perceived pecking order of AAC>MWC>MAC>CUSA>SBC is still very much in place.

Pecking order "perception" does not take into account the many variables that would have to occur before any of those three leave the SB for CUSA while Ark state stays. This scenario only plays out if the same happens to CUSA. The same happens to CUSA perception is a long way from reality.

(08-24-2016 05:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The A-State administration would have to consider what the SBC would look like if any two of its top programs left. I doubt that the A-State administration (or you) would still feel that way if two of App St, GA Southern, or ULL left for CUSA.

This situation is not unique to the Sun Belt Conference. Every G5 conference is in the same boat. Three to five years from now it may not matter what G5 conference one is in, but it does for now, especially when it comes to realignment. The perceived pecking order of AAC>MWC>MAC>CUSA>SBC is still very much in place.

Good thing reality and not perception will decide if teams leave or not.

I can tell you we aren't going to pay the hefty exit fee to go to CUSA.

CUSA members better hope more realignment happens in the next two years, that perception is changing.

(08-24-2016 07:30 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  CUSA members better hope more realignment happens in the next two years, that perception is changing.

CUSA members better hope it doesn't.

They are still betting there is a pecking order. If CUSA loses a couple they may find a surprising unwillingness to pay a lot of money to "move up".

(08-24-2016 07:50 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 07:30 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  CUSA members better hope more realignment happens in the next two years, that perception is changing.

CUSA members better hope it doesn't.

They are still betting there is a pecking order. If CUSA loses a couple they may find a surprising unwillingness to pay a lot of money to "move up".

Yes, CUSA is one round of realignment away from oblivion.

IMO If ASU, App, and GS continue to compete at a high level and more importantly the rest continue with all the improvements being discussed there is no reason to leave.

* ULL stays put
* USA get's new stadium
* Ga state gets Turner Field
* CCU gets stadium enhancements completed
* Texas state get's back to winning with the nicest stadium in conference.
* Troy get's back to their winning ways
* ULM get's back to their winning ways

How cewl would this be in a couple years. All of this is on the table. Solid, improving, and exciting conference on the horizon. Stop thinking about the grass being greener with all the positive goings on in the Sun Belt. Move and you risk jumping off the wrong train.

(08-24-2016 07:30 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  CUSA members better hope more realignment happens in the next two years, that perception is changing.

It has already changed for anyone who knows which teams are actually in each conference. Of course a CUSA guy would come on here and puff up his league.

(08-24-2016 08:23 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 07:50 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 07:30 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  CUSA members better hope more realignment happens in the next two years, that perception is changing.

CUSA members better hope it doesn't.

They are still betting there is a pecking order. If CUSA loses a couple they may find a surprising unwillingness to pay a lot of money to "move up".

Yes, CUSA is one round of realignment away from oblivion.

It definitely appears that CUSA is now headed down the same path that the WAC took a few years ago . .

(08-24-2016 08:58 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  IMO If ASU, App, and GS continue to compete at a high level and more importantly the rest continue with all the improvements being discussed there is no reason to leave.

* ULL stays put
* USA get's new stadium
* Ga state gets Turner Field
* CCU gets stadium enhancements completed
* Texas state get's back to winning with the nicest stadium in conference.
* Troy get's back to their winning ways
* ULM get's back to their winning ways

How cewl would this be in a couple years. All of this is on the table. Solid, improving, and exciting conference on the horizon. Stop thinking about the grass being greener with all the positive goings on in the Sun Belt. Move and you risk jumping off the wrong train.

You can't have everyone in the conference back or staying at winning ways. There's going to be 40 conference losses. We can't get rid of those.

(08-24-2016 10:54 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 08:58 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  IMO If ASU, App, and GS continue to compete at a high level and more importantly the rest continue with all the improvements being discussed there is no reason to leave.

* ULL stays put
* USA get's new stadium
* Ga state gets Turner Field
* CCU gets stadium enhancements completed
* Texas state get's back to winning with the nicest stadium in conference.
* Troy get's back to their winning ways
* ULM get's back to their winning ways

How cewl would this be in a couple years. All of this is on the table. Solid, improving, and exciting conference on the horizon. Stop thinking about the grass being greener with all the positive goings on in the Sun Belt. Move and you risk jumping off the wrong train.

You can't have everyone in the conference back or staying at winning ways. There's going to be 40 conference losses. We can't get rid of those.

I wondered if someone was going to catch on that.


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(08-23-2016 06:49 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 11:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Not a ton said since it was a long interview about mostly other subjects.

"We are flattered to be even listed among the 17 schools interested in the Big 12."

"He keeps hearing comments about why we're not in the same league as Houston, TCU etc. Wants to know why not? That's where we are working to be"

"We remain happy with our current membership in the Sun Belt Conference, which has been good to us for 15 years of football"

"Arkansas State has no interest in joining Conference USA in its current alignment. Been there, done that with all of those teams."

"We would be very interested in a geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues, and he still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future."

Midweek games:

He does not like midweek games, thinks they are terrible for attendance, however in this case it is the best way to get exposure on a major TV network.

ESPN has complete control of which games are selected for Tuesday Night. Sun Belt does not have a say. In the case of Friday Night games, ESPN requested the move, and we agreed after researching the success of Friday Night games.

He hopes a marquee opponent in Georgia Southern for our Wednesday Night game will help bring eyeballs to the league to watch what will be an exciting football game.

Future Plans

Still behind in facility enhancement. Once the End Zone complex for football is complete, the plan is to build a new baseball facility.

The school hopes to be able to add Softball in the near future and build them a facility.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/arka...ry-mohajir

I like Mohajir, but some of these statements are pretty lame.

I'm betting there are far more than 17 teams that are "interested" in the Big XII. But because they have no shot, like A State, not everyone tossed their name in the hat. So it's flattering to be on a list you put your name on?

Other than alumni where are the comments about being in the same league as Houston, TCU, ect coming from? AD's from the AAC?

Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

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The delusional thinking of some AState folks is truly stunning.

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(08-24-2016 11:15 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:49 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 11:14 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Not a ton said since it was a long interview about mostly other subjects.

"We are flattered to be even listed among the 17 schools interested in the Big 12."

"He keeps hearing comments about why we're not in the same league as Houston, TCU etc. Wants to know why not? That's where we are working to be"

"We remain happy with our current membership in the Sun Belt Conference, which has been good to us for 15 years of football"

"Arkansas State has no interest in joining Conference USA in its current alignment. Been there, done that with all of those teams."

"We would be very interested in a geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues, and he still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future."

Midweek games:

He does not like midweek games, thinks they are terrible for attendance, however in this case it is the best way to get exposure on a major TV network.

ESPN has complete control of which games are selected for Tuesday Night. Sun Belt does not have a say. In the case of Friday Night games, ESPN requested the move, and we agreed after researching the success of Friday Night games.

He hopes a marquee opponent in Georgia Southern for our Wednesday Night game will help bring eyeballs to the league to watch what will be an exciting football game.

Future Plans

Still behind in facility enhancement. Once the End Zone complex for football is complete, the plan is to build a new baseball facility.

The school hopes to be able to add Softball in the near future and build them a facility.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/arka...ry-mohajir

I like Mohajir, but some of these statements are pretty lame.

I'm betting there are far more than 17 teams that are "interested" in the Big XII. But because they have no shot, like A State, not everyone tossed their name in the hat. So it's flattering to be on a list you put your name on?

Other than alumni where are the comments about being in the same league as Houston, TCU, ect coming from? AD's from the AAC?

Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

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Ok

Just remember I'm trolling now.

But come December, when all the greatness I've predicted is fulfilled, I will be here....and I'll be relentless.

So you might as well agree now and save the torture later.


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(08-24-2016 07:12 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 05:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The A-State administration would have to consider what the SBC would look like if any two of its top programs left. I doubt that the A-State administration (or you) would still feel that way if two of App St, GA Southern, or ULL left for CUSA.

This situation is not unique to the Sun Belt Conference. Every G5 conference is in the same boat. Three to five years from now it may not matter what G5 conference one is in, but it does for now, especially when it comes to realignment. The perceived pecking order of AAC>MWC>MAC>CUSA>SBC is still very much in place.

Good thing reality and not perception will decide if teams leave or not.

I can tell you we aren't going to pay the hefty exit fee to go to CUSA.

Nor will anyone else in their right mind.

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(08-24-2016 05:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 01:18 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 10:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

Thing is, a pecking order will never happen with us because there is no way our administration would ever even consider a CUSA invite. We get in out of the Sun Belt, or we don't get in at all.

The A-State administration would have to consider what the SBC would look like if any two of its top programs left. I doubt that the A-State administration (or you) would still feel that way if two of App St, GA Southern, or ULL left for CUSA.

This situation is not unique to the Sun Belt Conference. Every G5 conference is in the same boat. Three to five years from now it may not matter what G5 conference one is in, but it does for now, especially when it comes to realignment. The perceived pecking order of AAC>MWC>MAC>CUSA>SBC is still very much in place.

I wouldn't even say that with us. You have to understand BR...our administration has done a ton of work in the last couple years to make sure everyone understands that the SBC is better than CUSA, and that the former SBC teams made mistakes even joining the league.

Even in a Prisoners dilemma, accepting an invite would involve our administration having to explain to fan base why a conference that it claims is below SBC standards is suddenly up to our standards because they might invite App and ULL. We're going to have a hard time convincing our fans there is a chance one of those teams will accept an invite as it is. Most of us believe App won't pay to leave, and Tech will never allow ULL to share a league with it.

As has been said before, if one of our admins went to the board and asked for 4 million dollars to join CUSA, they'd probably get laughed out of the room.

(08-23-2016 10:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:42 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Everyone (except La Tech) is interested in "geographically realigned version of the G5 leagues".

He "still thinks that is the best way for the G5 to succeed in the future." I'm glad someone in an influential position has finally come around to saying what I've been preaching for 3 years. The good thing is he's not getting hammered for saying it. I love validation. Yes I'm patting myself on the back.

It's interesting to see it come from a G5 administrator.

Obviously a regional realignment plan benefits Arkansas State.

The AAC is more concerned with tradition and that is where AAC>CUSA>SBC is a major consideration.

So with that comment you have to wonder now if there has been some talked about realigning CUSA and Sun Belt teams. The big thing I see is that ULM will be in a separate league from ULL and La Tech if that should happen.