(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

If I recall, TXST won the tourney in 2013 and has challenged for that in 2014 (15-5 made the championship game) & 15 (13-3). TXST went to a Regional in softball this year and didn't lose many Srs. Our soccer isn't too shabby either. Stop leaving TXST out. You include CCU who hasn't played a set in the SBC yet but not TXST. There's more parity adding CCU. If you have 2 or more teams that could win it every year then things are starting to equal out.
I'm not talking about who has dominated for years. I'm talking that more teams are challenging the SBC traditional powers and that embodies the essence of parity.


Sometimes my point is misinterpreted and sometimes people frustrate me but it's all good.

(08-30-2016 01:21 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

If I recall, TXST won the tourney in 2013 and has challenged for that in 2014 (15-5 made the championship game) & 15 (13-3). TXST went to a Regional in softball this year and didn't lose many Srs. Our soccer isn't too shabby either. Stop leaving TXST out. You include CCU who hasn't played a set in the SBC yet but not TXST. There's more parity adding CCU. If you have 2 or more teams that could win it every year then things are starting to equal out.
I'm not talking about who has dominated for years. I'm talking that more teams are challenging the SBC traditional powers and that embodies the essence of parity.


Sometimes my point is misinterpreted and sometimes people frustrate me but it's all good.

I simply forgot about Texas State Volleyball...that's my fault. As for why I included CCU in Volleyball...it's because they went to the NCAA Tourney last year.

I am not including you guys in Softball or Soccer simply because the talent difference between ULL and South Alabama respectively and the rest of the league is gigantic.

(08-30-2016 02:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I simply forgot about Texas State Volleyball...that's my fault. As for why I included CCU in Volleyball...it's because they went to the NCAA Tourney last year.

Last two years of NCAA tournaments, Big South championships for Coastal Carolina.

Also, they have a lot of top returnees too including the reigning Big South Player of the Year, who the SBC generously tabbed as co-Preseason Offensive Player of the Year in recognition of that.

(08-22-2016 12:06 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Coastal is good in just about everything. They were truly an all-sports add.

This guy gets it.

(08-30-2016 07:46 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 02:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I simply forgot about Texas State Volleyball...that's my fault. As for why I included CCU in Volleyball...it's because they went to the NCAA Tourney last year.

Last two years of NCAA tournaments, Big South championships for Coastal Carolina.

Also, they have a lot of top returnees too including the reigning Big South Player of the Year, who the SBC generously tabbed as co-Preseason Offensive Player of the Year in recognition of that.

Oh yea, they are very good. If they want the SBC Title however, they are going to have to beat us.

(08-30-2016 01:21 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

If I recall, TXST won the tourney in 2013 and has challenged for that in 2014 (15-5 made the championship game) & 15 (13-3). TXST went to a Regional in softball this year and didn't lose many Srs. Our soccer isn't too shabby either. Stop leaving TXST out. You include CCU who hasn't played a set in the SBC yet but not TXST. There's more parity adding CCU. If you have 2 or more teams that could win it every year then things are starting to equal out.
I'm not talking about who has dominated for years. I'm talking that more teams are challenging the SBC traditional powers and that embodies the essence of parity.


Sometimes my point is misinterpreted and sometimes people frustrate me but it's all good.

I feel your frustration. UTA finished a game ahead of stAte in 2013, a game back in 2014, made it to the championship game in 2013 and has been behind Texas State in total attendance every year the two have been in the SBC. UTA has not finished worse than fourth any year in the SBC since we joined (stAte can not make that claim).

We have been at the top of most every women's sport save a select few. How us not having a football teams gets us overlooked is beyond me, but people always seemed to be surprised that we have a very competitive athletic department. We sponsor the least amount of sports of any school, yet have always been in the top half of the Bubas. We finished two points out of first two years ago.

(08-30-2016 01:21 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

If I recall, TXST won the tourney in 2013 and has challenged for that in 2014 (15-5 made the championship game) & 15 (13-3). TXST went to a Regional in softball this year and didn't lose many Srs. Our soccer isn't too shabby either. Stop leaving TXST out. You include CCU who hasn't played a set in the SBC yet but not TXST. There's more parity adding CCU. If you have 2 or more teams that could win it every year then things are starting to equal out.
I'm not talking about who has dominated for years. I'm talking that more teams are challenging the SBC traditional powers and that embodies the essence of parity.


Sometimes my point is misinterpreted and sometimes people frustrate me but it's all good.

I'd guess he was more referencing the regular season championships for the sports under discussion which the Cajuns have won 13 of the 15 years they've been a member. Then again, they've won the tournament title in 12 of those years. :D

(08-30-2016 04:30 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:21 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

If I recall, TXST won the tourney in 2013 and has challenged for that in 2014 (15-5 made the championship game) & 15 (13-3). TXST went to a Regional in softball this year and didn't lose many Srs. Our soccer isn't too shabby either. Stop leaving TXST out. You include CCU who hasn't played a set in the SBC yet but not TXST. There's more parity adding CCU. If you have 2 or more teams that could win it every year then things are starting to equal out.
I'm not talking about who has dominated for years. I'm talking that more teams are challenging the SBC traditional powers and that embodies the essence of parity.


Sometimes my point is misinterpreted and sometimes people frustrate me but it's all good.

I'd guess he was more referencing the regular season championships for the sports under discussion which the Cajuns have won 13 of the 15 years they've been a member. Then again, they've won the tournament title in 12 of those years. :D

Try again on that tournament declaration:
2000 - UALR
2001 - FIU
2002 - WKU
2003 - NMSU
2004 - NMSU
2005 - WKU
2006 - MTSU
2007 - MTSU
2008 - WKU
2009 - MTSU
2010 - MTSU
2011 - WKU
2012 - WKU
2013 - TXST
2014 - UALR
2015 - stAte

Now, you want to talk regular season, fine, but that isn't supported by your claim, either.
stAte - 2004 (T1), 2009 (T1), 2010 (T1), 2015

Sun Belt Volleyball Past Champions

They have a lot more further back, though. Just not the past 15 years.

Thought it was pretty clear he was talking about softball.

(08-30-2016 08:46 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Thought it was pretty clear he was talking about softball.

um, no it wasn't because all of the other posts were about volleyball; as is this thread.

TXST loses to Baylor 3-1. It was a good match (from following along on twitter.)

Attendance 3,634

UTA drops the fifth set vs. UNT 15-13 on the road. Mavs now 2-2.

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

Sorry guys. Little late to the site, but as for CCU volleyball, yes they are very good this year and the past two years. I think it's no coincidence that the elevated play started when we recruited Leah Hardeman. I have no idea how many players have been the Conference POY as a Freshman, then as a Sophomore and is named the PreSeason POY in a new conference as Jr. The only thing I don't like about Coach Forman is he recruits a TON of foreign players. I just wish he would target more American ladies, especially more local ones like Leah.

(08-31-2016 06:46 AM)bodoyle Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

Sorry guys. Little late to the site, but as for CCU volleyball, yes they are very good this year and the past two years. I think it's no coincidence that the elevated play started when we recruited Leah Hardeman. I have no idea how many players have been the Conference POY as a Freshman, then as a Sophomore and is named the PreSeason POY in a new conference as Jr. The only thing I don't like about Coach Forman is he recruits a TON of foreign players. I just wish he would target more American ladies, especially more local ones like Leah.

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(08-31-2016 06:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 06:46 AM)bodoyle Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

Sorry guys. Little late to the site, but as for CCU volleyball, yes they are very good this year and the past two years. I think it's no coincidence that the elevated play started when we recruited Leah Hardeman. I have no idea how many players have been the Conference POY as a Freshman, then as a Sophomore and is named the PreSeason POY in a new conference as Jr. The only thing I don't like about Coach Forman is he recruits a TON of foreign players. I just wish he would target more American ladies, especially more local ones like Leah.

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(08-31-2016 06:46 AM)bodoyle Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 01:03 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:32 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 11:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Coastal Carolina is going to be the team to beat in the Sun Belt.

After this year, it will be amazing if a P5 program (yes, I know those terms do not necessarily exist for a sport like volleyball) does not try to get Jozsef Forman as their head volleyball coach. He would've built a top 40, 50 power in New Orleans if not for the knucklehead decision to go Div III when he was head coach.

Auburn was foolish not to hire him as their head coach when he was the top assistant there. He's certainly become a top 40 program at Coastal and perhaps will be top 25 by the end of the year.

It'll be fun to watch Coastal this year. This weekend's tournament will be a doozy, pulling for the Beach Chickens!

AState is probably the early favorite simply because of the returning players.

I tend to think there is more parity in the women's sports in the SBC (except softball) than the men's. Anyone else have an opinion on that? The addition of CCU intrigues me and I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Women's has less parity in the Sun Belt. There are schools that are simply going to spend more on a Women's sport than others. The same teams generally dominate every year in each sport because those programs throw a lot more money at those sports than anyone else does.

Volleyball: Arkansas State, Coastal, App State

Women's Basketball: Arkansas State, Little Rock

Soccer: South Alabama

Softball: ULL

Sorry guys. Little late to the site, but as for CCU volleyball, yes they are very good this year and the past two years. I think it's no coincidence that the elevated play started when we recruited Leah Hardeman. I have no idea how many players have been the Conference POY as a Freshman, then as a Sophomore and is named the PreSeason POY in a new conference as Jr. The only thing I don't like about Coach Forman is he recruits a TON of foreign players. I just wish he would target more American ladies, especially more local ones like Leah.

I don't have a problem with it. They help strengthen the team. For the most part they aren't the stars (except Nagy this year) - but players like Hardeman, Legros, and Booth appear to the be the best players on the team and are American. If he recruited exclusively overseas that may be a problem, but I think it is a solid mix and probably what he needs to do to have a competitive team.

(08-31-2016 06:46 AM)bodoyle Wrote:  Sorry guys. Little late to the site, but as for CCU volleyball, yes they are very good this year and the past two years. I think it's no coincidence that the elevated play started when we recruited Leah Hardeman. I have no idea how many players have been the Conference POY as a Freshman, then as a Sophomore and is named the PreSeason POY in a new conference as Jr. The only thing I don't like about Coach Forman is he recruits a TON of foreign players. I just wish he would target more American ladies, especially more local ones like Leah.

Coach Forman has tons of overseas contacts, but tries to find the right balance. He has eight Americans and seven international players. You'll note that while he is the "international guy", both of his top assistants have college and club experience which should help with the recruitment of Americans.

It's very difficult to recruit the top Americans because all of the top colleges are swooning over them. As he establishes the Coastal Carolina program, he'll be able to get more and more of those American players to complement his international ones.

One thing is certain. He's a great developer of talent.

(08-31-2016 09:01 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it. They help strengthen the team. For the most part they aren't the stars (except Nagy this year) - but players like Hardeman, Legros, and Booth appear to the be the best players on the team and are American. If he recruited exclusively overseas that may be a problem, but I think it is a solid mix and probably what he needs to do to have a competitive team.

I am not going to mention names, but I know of an American player who lost her scholarship to a foreign player and then the player ended up leaving the program and the American player was not re-offered her scholly.

(08-31-2016 11:13 AM)bodoyle Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 09:01 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I don't have a problem with it. They help strengthen the team. For the most part they aren't the stars (except Nagy this year) - but players like Hardeman, Legros, and Booth appear to the be the best players on the team and are American. If he recruited exclusively overseas that may be a problem, but I think it is a solid mix and probably what he needs to do to have a competitive team.

I am not going to mention names, but I know of an American player who lost her scholarship to a foreign player and then the player ended up leaving the program and the American player was not re-offered her scholly.

I don't know the details but there are a ton of variables. It doesn't really concern me - if the coach felt that this one specific player didn't deserve a scholarship then so be it. If he's being discriminatory then I'm sure there will be a pattern of behavior and it will be reported.