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I've watched this lady for 30 years, and she's always been about what's best for the Clintons to get ahead politically and financially. The Dem party has no idea how economics work, and they along with establishment Repubublicans they're world view is not benefiting the middle class.

As for Trump. He's not a policy wonk so he's never going to look like a well schooled politician. That said, I think he understands things that "could build the private sector" which in turn should turn out enemic GDP from its current GDP of 1.2% to a healthier 2-5%. That should flood the treasury. If Ryan is true to his word our deficate should go down.

I've never believed we could send back 11 million illegals, nor should we. But before we do anything the southern border should be sealed, felons should be deported, sanctuary cities must end, e-varify must be enforced, HB1 Visas need to be justified for need, not cheap coders, and the path to citizenship should mirror the legal process, with the right to vote only occurring upon citizenship.

Hillary wants to penalize companies that leave the US, Trump wants to lower the business tax to endentivize them to return.

Yes, Trump speaks his mind. Hillary poll tests and nuances every word.

In the end he and she will surround themselves with bright people who are experts in their field. I'm not worried that either will do something stupid. I am concerned that that Hillary will continue are wussified foreign policy, and will continue to spend us into an eventual meltdown.

If Trump can seal the border, undo Obamacare, and negotiate TPP without getting us into a Tartiff war than I'm willing to take a chance.

To me Clinton has sold her soul to too many donors, and has shown herself to be a serial liar.

Dear ChipDip2,
How can you say Trump understands the private sector? Someone who has declared bankruptcy four times, uses undocumented workers on his construction sites, most, if not all of his businesses are located overseas, and he may have very shady deals with people or companies located in Russia. Yes, he understands how to cheat the system, try to pay no taxes, borrows money from China, and won't release his tax returns. Yeah that's the guy who sets the example of how to improve America.
Trump speaks his mind, the problem is.... there's nothing in it. America has fewer people entering illegally now, then we have had in years.
Oh, and by the way, Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Quote:Oh, and by the way, Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Excellent point.

Hard to bring this up and at the same time say that he doesn't know how "the system" works.

(08-24-2016 06:32 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

Quote:Oh, and by the way, Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Excellent point.

Hard to bring this up and at the same time say that he doesn't know how "the system" works.

Or that he's sincere and a true GOP.

(08-24-2016 07:16 PM)Moomba Wrote:  Or that he's sincere and a true GOP.

He isn't

He has stooped to become the lowest form of life on this planet

A politician

No better (and no worse than) HRC

(08-24-2016 07:27 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 07:16 PM)Moomba Wrote:  Or that he's sincere and a true GOP.

He isn't

He has stooped to become the lowest form of life on this planet

A politician

No better (and no worse than) HRC

She never stooped. Donald's the worst kind, he desired and did a 180 to be one. And is failing at doing so.

(08-24-2016 07:34 PM)Moomba Wrote:  She never stooped. Donald's the worst kind, he desired and did a 180 to be one. And is failing at doing so.

That seems to be what most of HRC's supporters are saying this election season.

She sucks. But not as much as Trump

SMH

(08-24-2016 06:24 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear ChipDip2,
How can you say Trump understands the private sector? Someone who has declared bankruptcy four times, uses undocumented workers on his construction sites, most, if not all of his businesses are located overseas, and he may have very shady deals with people or companies located in Russia. Yes, he understands how to cheat the system, try to pay no taxes, borrows money from China, and won't release his tax returns. Yeah that's the guy who sets the example of how to improve America.
Trump speaks his mind, the problem is.... there's nothing in it. America has fewer people entering illegally now, then we have had in years.
Oh, and by the way, Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Please. Have you seen his real estate portfolio? You don't build that by not understanding the private sector.

Conversely, what has Hillary or Obama for that matter ever produced. Two academics who have done government work all their life. She readily admits they were broke when they left the White House. They made the bulk of their money on quid pro quo speeches. Good work if you can get it. Net worth 130 million.

(08-24-2016 07:51 PM)ESSSS Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 07:34 PM)Moomba Wrote:  She never stooped. Donald's the worst kind, he desired and did a 180 to be one. And is failing at doing so.

That seems to be what most of HRC's supporters are saying this election season.

She sucks. But not as much as Trump

SMH

Her non-supporters are saying it as well.

(08-24-2016 08:47 PM)Moomba Wrote:  Her non-supporters are saying it as well.

Mostly true

Well, we are where we are. We've all complained about how candidates are selected for us, without input from anyone outside the "inner circle". DT garnered inside info and blew the roof open on the GOP side much to their disbelief and dismay.

Bern nearly pulled it off as a independent running as a Dem on the other side, but he didn't count on the "super delegate" card they threw down when he was building the groundswell of support. Be like late in the second half, you're shooting the lights out and the ref says, "you guys can rally all you want, I have the final score in my right front pocket, you lost"

DT just called HRC a "bigot". I think they guy just flat out doesn't want the job.

He's the "Archie Bunker" candidate. Back then Normal Mailer was shocked at the "Archie Bunker for President' bumper stickers. I think DT is as well.