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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(08-19-2016 04:04 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: (08-19-2016 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: There are grassy fields on both sides of Frank Basset Drive next to Wallace Wade stadium on the Duke campus. Those fields could be moved and replaced with more parking as needed.
UNC is a little tighter, but still room to add parking; what's up with the forest between the Ram's Head Rec. Center and Emergency Room Drive?
Duke is nearly finished with the Science Drive parking facility:
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/201...e-progress
As to UNC, are you joking? Cut down the pine trees? You might as well suggest paving over the Bell Tower, or putting a deck on the old Cemetery behind Playmakers.
Wallace Wade and Kenan are on campus venues from before the Depression. They don't lend themselves to an influx of cars and the early overflow at Kenan was into the neighborhoods. Tailgating at NC State develops in part to the massive open field around the old biology pond and the adjacent State Fair Grounds.
Until about 20 years ago, it was common to have one to two home games a year while the fair was in town until it became a logistical nightmare. Duke football effectively shut down as the era of multiple cars in the family came to an end and at UNC there has never been any parking to speak of until Memorial Hospital started building decks. You can't readily tailgate in a garage next to sick people coming to the hospital - that's a bummer. The only thing worse is to walk through Duke Children's on your way deeper into the main Duke Hospital Complex.
Besides Carolina revolved around the Ed Foundation's party room in the Dean Dome for decades.
It's not a part of their culture so it's not needed. Why the thought of even being outside is probably enough to make their khakis and blue polo or button down shirt curl up.
But even VT folks should know better than ragging or suggesting parking solutions. You could not even get the worthless woods behind Lane cut down for the practice facility.
But since you are competent engineers here's a suggestion for you, raise the drill field 20 feet and install a two level garage between the Admin building and the old gym. You will have to plumb it right to maintain the duck pond and keep it from seeping in, but I have full faith in you. Ut Prosim
There are only about 7,000 parking spaces on campus at Carolina and the Ram's Club controls all of them with the exception of a couple hundred spots in parking decks.
I park along Hibbard Drive which is an apartment complex that was originally build for married students. The students that live there have to remove their cars (to somewhere, I don't know where) by 8 AM on football Saturdays. There are about 110 spaces at Hibbard. Most of the lots on campus are about the same size.
It is very difficult for visitors to come into Chapel Hill, parking is a nightmare.
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TIGER-PAUL
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(08-30-2016 07:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (08-30-2016 07:11 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: Tenn just added 7 games, zero v P5.
Tennessee adds home games w/UTEP (2018), Chattanooga & UAB (2019), Charlotte (2020), Bowling Green (2021), Ball State & Army (2022)
To be fair to Tennessee they already had P5 OOC games scheduled some of those years
2018 vs WVU in Charlotte
2021 vs Pitt
2022 @ Pitt
And unlike some SEC teams Tennessee has shown they aren't afraid to play decent opponents OOC with recent series with Oklahoma, Oregon, Cincy and UCLA.
There's plenty of SEC programs to bash about OOC scheduling but Tennessee isn't one of them.
Agree, just don't know how ACC teams will be able to find 2 OOC every year.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
At first they may need an exemption for a few teams, but I don't think it will be a problem long term.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
I would like Louisville 's four (4) OOC games to be:
1) Kentucky annually
2) SEC school pool: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Missouri
3) Big 10 school pool: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Illinois, Purdue
4) Notre Dame, Western Kentucky, Cincinnati, Houston, TCU
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08-31-2016 08:14 AM |
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Hokie Mark
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
Kentucky, Alabama, Ohio State and Notre Dame? Masochist!
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(08-31-2016 05:28 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: (08-30-2016 07:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (08-30-2016 07:11 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: Tenn just added 7 games, zero v P5.
Tennessee adds home games w/UTEP (2018), Chattanooga & UAB (2019), Charlotte (2020), Bowling Green (2021), Ball State & Army (2022)
To be fair to Tennessee they already had P5 OOC games scheduled some of those years
2018 vs WVU in Charlotte
2021 vs Pitt
2022 @ Pitt
And unlike some SEC teams Tennessee has shown they aren't afraid to play decent opponents OOC with recent series with Oklahoma, Oregon, Cincy and UCLA.
There's plenty of SEC programs to bash about OOC scheduling but Tennessee isn't one of them.
Agree, just don't know how ACC teams will be able to find 2 OOC every year.
Tennessee is one of 50 non-ACC and Notre Dame P5 schools out there. The only reason a school should have a continual problem not being able to find two P5 OOC opponents every year is if they don't try.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(08-31-2016 11:08 AM)Kaplony Wrote: (08-31-2016 05:28 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: (08-30-2016 07:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (08-30-2016 07:11 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: Tenn just added 7 games, zero v P5.
Tennessee adds home games w/UTEP (2018), Chattanooga & UAB (2019), Charlotte (2020), Bowling Green (2021), Ball State & Army (2022)
To be fair to Tennessee they already had P5 OOC games scheduled some of those years
2018 vs WVU in Charlotte
2021 vs Pitt
2022 @ Pitt
And unlike some SEC teams Tennessee has shown they aren't afraid to play decent opponents OOC with recent series with Oklahoma, Oregon, Cincy and UCLA.
There's plenty of SEC programs to bash about OOC scheduling but Tennessee isn't one of them.
Agree, just don't know how ACC teams will be able to find 2 OOC every year.
Tennessee is one of 50 non-ACC and Notre Dame P5 schools out there. The only reason a school should have a continual problem not being able to find two P5 OOC opponents every year is if they don't try.
I'm not sure it's that cut and dried. It will help if the Big XII actually does expand, and reduces their league schedule from 9 games to eight. But with both the B1G and PAC at 9 games, and only looking for 1 OOC game against the P5, the SEC and ACC could be looking for more games than there are available. I don't expect SEC west teams will be looking to meet their requirements by scheduling northeastern ACC schools, and the feeling is likely to be mutual.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
+1.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-01-2016 09:07 AM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
No, just that the northern teams in the ACC - specifically the former eastern indies - will try to make long term scheduling agreements with other former eastern indies residing in different conferences.
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-01-2016 09:07 AM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the Big Ten!
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09-01-2016 10:19 AM |
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-01-2016 10:19 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (09-01-2016 09:07 AM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the Big Ten!
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the ACC!
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-02-2016 12:58 PM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 10:19 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (09-01-2016 09:07 AM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the Big Ten!
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the ACC!
WVU is more like to end up at Aaron Rents Furniture, once they run out of sofas. My advice to Aaron: require a 100% deposit!
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RE: Create an ACC-SEC Challenge using the 8 + 2 Model
(09-02-2016 02:22 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (09-02-2016 12:58 PM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 10:19 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (09-01-2016 09:07 AM)XLance Wrote: (09-01-2016 07:09 AM)miko33 Wrote: Just a theory, but based on what the future OOC schedules are looking like, I would not be surprised in the least if SU, Pitt, WVU and PSU are working for some rotating arrangement to fill at least one of the two P5 'requirements' that each school should focus on. The other P5 will be ND rotation plus other short home/home P5 scheduled games.
Are you predicting that West Virginia will go to the B1G?
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the Big Ten!
WVU is more likely to end up in the AAC than the ACC!
WVU is more like to end up at Aaron Rents Furniture, once they run out of sofas. My advice to Aaron: require a 100% deposit!
I haven't posted here in a while. I had to when I saw this. That's a good one.
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