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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
The Belt of 2016 isn't the Belt of 2006, it's a stronger conference with some solid programs that draw decent crowds (for our standards). We'd be crazy to walk away from Mobile, a fine town that supports the bowl very well. No reason to dump it for Little Rock, not exactly a destination city, or keep Boise, with the flaws that I pointed out. It's not like we're playing the Pac-12 in Idaho, we're playing G5 teams.
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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
(08-17-2016 03:55 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:14 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 11:11 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  They really need to name these bowls, and put the sponsor name ahead of the bowl name.

what has the worse name? dollar general bowl, the Bitcoin Bowl, or the Belk Bowl

Dollar General, easily.

Could be worse, though:
Big Lots/Odd Lots Bowl.
Depends Bowl

I could see the Depends people adding an "e" to the "Bowl" just to extend the theme.
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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
(08-18-2016 06:54 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:55 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:14 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 11:11 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  They really need to name these bowls, and put the sponsor name ahead of the bowl name.

what has the worse name? dollar general bowl, the Bitcoin Bowl, or the Belk Bowl

Dollar General, easily.

Could be worse, though:
Big Lots/Odd Lots Bowl.
Depends Bowl

I could see the Depends people adding an "e" to the "Bowl" just to extend the theme.

why dump on the belt? It is not like the MAC owns them in head to head contests. First place MACW co champ WMU was destroyed by a sun belt team in georgia last year.
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not meant as a dig at wmu either just saying belt has some good programs.
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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
(08-18-2016 07:18 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 06:54 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:55 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:14 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 11:11 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  They really need to name these bowls, and put the sponsor name ahead of the bowl name.

what has the worse name? dollar general bowl, the Bitcoin Bowl, or the Belk Bowl

Dollar General, easily.

Could be worse, though:
Big Lots/Odd Lots Bowl.
Depends Bowl

I could see the Depends people adding an "e" to the "Bowl" just to extend the theme.

why dump on the belt? It is not like the MAC owns them in head to head contests. First place MACW co champ WMU was destroyed by a sun belt team in georgia last year.

And that same Ga team beat the MAC champs in this supposed crappy Bowl last year too. Like it or not the SBC, CUSA, and MAC are all in the same boat. I also wish they would just do the name of the city or something and then add the sponsors name after. Some one suggested calling it the 'Gulf Coast Bowl' sponsored by ...... But the sponsors pony up the money and they get to choose the name I suppose. I missed going last year to this game and regretted it. From what I've heard from the GS fans that went it was a great time (weather sucked). I've also heard this from all other team fans that have attended this bowl in the past. The SBC now has 5 bowl games and until the NCAA put a moratorium on new bowls there was at least one more in the works. I don't think more bowls are needed, but I do think a slight reshuffle is in order. Some conferences just have way too many.
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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
(08-18-2016 07:34 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 07:18 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 06:54 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:55 PM)axeme Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:14 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  what has the worse name? dollar general bowl, the Bitcoin Bowl, or the Belk Bowl

Dollar General, easily.

Could be worse, though:
Big Lots/Odd Lots Bowl.
Depends Bowl

I could see the Depends people adding an "e" to the "Bowl" just to extend the theme.

why dump on the belt? It is not like the MAC owns them in head to head contests. First place MACW co champ WMU was destroyed by a sun belt team in georgia last year.

And that same Ga team beat the MAC champs in this supposed crappy Bowl last year too. Like it or not the SBC, CUSA, and MAC are all in the same boat. I also wish they would just do the name of the city or something and then add the sponsors name after. Some one suggested calling it the 'Gulf Coast Bowl' sponsored by ...... But the sponsors pony up the money and they get to choose the name I suppose. I missed going last year to this game and regretted it. From what I've heard from the GS fans that went it was a great time (weather sucked). I've also heard this from all other team fans that have attended this bowl in the past. The SBC now has 5 bowl games and until the NCAA put a moratorium on new bowls there was at least one more in the works. I don't think more bowls are needed, but I do think a slight reshuffle is in order. Some conferences just have way too many.

And non MAC Champs Toledo took a doodoo on SBC co-champ stAte... We are better than the belt because we have staying power, name recognition, and a deeper mold. The SBC was 3 deep last season. South Alabama vs. MAC #7 BG in 2014 was the worst bowl game I have ever laid eyes on. We aren't FCS teams inching in on D1A. We've been here and done that. The SBC has been a stepping stone. Temple is the only school that succeeded in that way through MAC roots. Never beating a MAC foe with a .500 or better record during their time here either.

Does the SBC deserve respect? Yes
Does the SBC have good fans? Heck yes
Do I believe the SBC is better than the MAC? No (At Least not last season)
Do I believe the SBC #1 played the MAC #1 in Mobile? No. GoSo was the best the SBC had to offer and they got lucky BG's staff was gone for the game. Now would GoSo still have beaten BG with a full staff? Maybe? Probably? I don't know.... But BG does not get beat like the Belt Champ is 30 points better on a normal day.

Ask a random college football fan who is in the Sun Belt and who is in the MAC. That will tell you who the who's conference is on what level. I asked two of my buddies to name the Belt teams and the first two schools they said were FIU and FAU. Branding is important and it's hard to build on an everchanging landscape with everchanging realignment.
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RE: Former GoDaddy Bowl... Now called
TV dictates what level a conference is on.

The P5 all have $20 million a year per school prime slot exposure deals.

The MAC, MWC, AAC all have a $125 million value length of contract deal with ESPN and CBS sub license. That means the conferences are on the same level.

SBC/CUSA have TV contracts worth only 5 million for their remaining duration with very limited national slots. They might as well be FCS conferences.

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(08-18-2016 10:45 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  And non MAC Champs Toledo took a doodoo on SBC co-champ stAte... We are better than the belt because we have staying power, name recognition, and a deeper mold. The SBC was 3 deep last season. South Alabama vs. MAC #7 BG in 2014 was the worst bowl game I have ever laid eyes on. We aren't FCS teams inching in on D1A. We've been here and done that. The SBC has been a stepping stone. Temple is the only school that succeeded in that way through MAC roots. Never beating a MAC foe with a .500 or better record during their time here either.

Does the SBC deserve respect? Yes
Does the SBC have good fans? Heck yes
Do I believe the SBC is better than the MAC? No (At Least not last season)
Do I believe the SBC #1 played the MAC #1 in Mobile? No. GoSo was the best the SBC had to offer and they got lucky BG's staff was gone for the game. Now would GoSo still have beaten BG with a full staff? Maybe? Probably? I don't know.... But BG does not get beat like the Belt Champ is 30 points better on a normal day.

Ask a random college football fan who is in the Sun Belt and who is in the MAC. That will tell you who the who's conference is on what level. I asked two of my buddies to name the Belt teams and the first two schools they said were FIU and FAU. Branding is important and it's hard to build on an everchanging landscape with everchanging realignment.

You do realize that in 2014 the only reason USA played in a Bowl game was that the conference winner Georgia Southern and App State could not play in a bowl game. Also like Bowling Green, Georgia Southern entire coaching staff was also out the door for the Mobile Bowl this past season.
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(08-17-2016 08:06 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If we're going to drop a bowl, there's no question that Boise is the one to do it with. It's nowhere near any MAC schools and it's not a desirable location, frankly I'm surprised that its lasted so long and that we've continued to affiliate with it. I'd like to see an Indianapolis bowl as an alternative, it'd give us a game in the heart of our footprint in a great stadium now that Detroit is no longer a primary tie-in.

Please...yes have the MAC drop the Potato Bowl. It needs to die or at least be relocated.

As for the Dollar General Bowl, while at first it does bring smirks due to the name, but it is a stable and strong company that will be able to be a bowl sponsor and who knows, it may be able to keep the decent payout or even increase it.

At least its not the Motel 6 Cactus Bowl.
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I love Dollar General. It is where I go for Black Friday shopping!!!
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Didn't like the GMAC Bowl. Didn't like the GoDaddy Bowl. Don't like the Dollar General Bowl. I understand sponsorship, but let's not go overboard. The bigger bowl games get to keep their prestige by keeping their identity. The Rose Bowl kept their name first by being "The Rose Bowl brought to you by (sponsor)." The Orange and Fiesta Bowls at least got to keep their identities after sponsors like FedEx or Tostitos got involved. The Mobile Bowl will never be the Rose Bowl, but at this rate, they'll never even be the Independence Bowl.
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(08-21-2016 06:32 AM)PK_UToledo Wrote:  The bigger bowl games get to keep their prestige by keeping their identity...The Mobile Bowl will never be the Rose Bowl, but at this rate, they'll never even be the Independence Bowl.

Are you referring to the former Poulan Weed Eater Independence Bowl? Or the current Camping World Independence Bowl?

You're right, the bigger bowls do get to hang onto some of their prestige, but those bowls are few and far between. 90% of today's bowls have ridiculous-sounding corporate names, including pretty much all of our bowl tie-ins. I don't really have any major problem with the name change.
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Quote:It could be worse. Not much worse, but at least we aren't playing in the West Side Community Plasma Center Bowl.

Yes, it could be worse: "Big Dick's Rainbow Bar Bowl"
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(08-17-2016 05:46 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 05:26 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  We need to dump this bowl ASAP.

Have you ever been to this bowl game?

Best Bowl experience of any MAC Bowl Game I have been too, and I think many other Toledo fans would say the same thing about UT's two trips to Mobile.

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Yep. Our stay in Mobile for the 2012 GoDaddy Bowl was outstanding. So many cool things to do. Right up there with the Orange Bowl in 2013!
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(08-18-2016 10:45 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  And non MAC Champs Toledo took a doodoo on SBC co-champ stAte... We are better than the belt because we have staying power, name recognition, and a deeper mold. The SBC was 3 deep last season. South Alabama vs. MAC #7 BG in 2014 was the worst bowl game I have ever laid eyes on. We aren't FCS teams inching in on D1A. We've been here and done that. The SBC has been a stepping stone. Temple is the only school that succeeded in that way through MAC roots. Never beating a MAC foe with a .500 or better record during their time here either.

Does the SBC deserve respect? Yes
Does the SBC have good fans? Heck yes
Do I believe the SBC is better than the MAC? No (At Least not last season)
Do I believe the SBC #1 played the MAC #1 in Mobile? No. GoSo was the best the SBC had to offer and they got lucky BG's staff was gone for the game. Now would GoSo still have beaten BG with a full staff? Maybe? Probably? I don't know.... But BG does not get beat like the Belt Champ is 30 points better on a normal day.

Ask a random college football fan who is in the Sun Belt and who is in the MAC. That will tell you who the who's conference is on what level. I asked two of my buddies to name the Belt teams and the first two schools they said were FIU and FAU. Branding is important and it's hard to build on an everchanging landscape with everchanging realignment.

You say that like any single MAC team is a household name in the south. Ask any average fan in the south who's in the MAC and they would say "cheese." You're not as important as you think you are.

Also, I hope you are aware that Georgia Southern and Bowling Green were playing under the exact same conditions last year. Neither had a coaching staff and both were playing in the rain. Georgia Southern proved it was the stronger of the two teams when faced with adversity. We didn't "get lucky."

Furthermore, GS was not the best the Sun Belt had to offer last season. We had horrible conference losses to our rivals and our defense was questionable at best. Still whooped the best that the MAC had to offer though.
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(09-01-2016 11:01 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 10:45 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  And non MAC Champs Toledo took a doodoo on SBC co-champ stAte... We are better than the belt because we have staying power, name recognition, and a deeper mold. The SBC was 3 deep last season. South Alabama vs. MAC #7 BG in 2014 was the worst bowl game I have ever laid eyes on. We aren't FCS teams inching in on D1A. We've been here and done that. The SBC has been a stepping stone. Temple is the only school that succeeded in that way through MAC roots. Never beating a MAC foe with a .500 or better record during their time here either.

Does the SBC deserve respect? Yes
Does the SBC have good fans? Heck yes
Do I believe the SBC is better than the MAC? No (At Least not last season)
Do I believe the SBC #1 played the MAC #1 in Mobile? No. GoSo was the best the SBC had to offer and they got lucky BG's staff was gone for the game. Now would GoSo still have beaten BG with a full staff? Maybe? Probably? I don't know.... But BG does not get beat like the Belt Champ is 30 points better on a normal day.

Ask a random college football fan who is in the Sun Belt and who is in the MAC. That will tell you who the who's conference is on what level. I asked two of my buddies to name the Belt teams and the first two schools they said were FIU and FAU. Branding is important and it's hard to build on an everchanging landscape with everchanging realignment.

You say that like any single MAC team is a household name in the south. Ask any average fan in the south who's in the MAC and they would say "cheese." You're not as important as you think you are.

Also, I hope you are aware that Georgia Southern and Bowling Green were playing under the exact same conditions last year. Neither had a coaching staff and both were playing in the rain. Georgia Southern proved it was the stronger of the two teams when faced with adversity. We didn't "get lucky."

Furthermore, GS was not the best the Sun Belt had to offer last season. We had horrible conference losses to our rivals and our defense was questionable at best. Still whooped the best that the MAC had to offer though.

I would make a case that the best the MAC had to offer was a team that went on to beat #24 Temple 32-17 in Boca Raton, Florida. On any given day, the best 2-3 teams in both the MAC and the Sun Belt could potentially beat each other.
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