Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

(08-16-2016 07:49 PM)canewton Wrote:  

Ha,lmaso

I love it, great idea. But, unfortunately that's not how it works. It's like professional athletes, they don't get paid for performance, but for the length the contract (not including performance bonuses).

Great idea...

Uconn "I'm carrying this league everyone gets money because how good I am in tournament but I deserve more"

"
AAC "you do you earned it get paid and play in that money play in that snow fall of money"

Also on the flip side, you don't hear

"Temple is just getting paid more because of their awesome ocs and name recognition but they didn't even have a .500 season. We Tulane won 10 games got to a bowl and temple gets paid more"

Sort of thing. That is only in the mwc now but when our teams our good they should be rewarded instead of " oh look lets pay you in bojangles gift cards when you break out of the cage we made for you" - current tv partner

(08-16-2016 09:02 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Uconn "I'm carrying this league everyone gets money because how good I am in tournament but I deserve more"

"
AAC "you do you earned it get paid and play in that money play in that snow fall of money"

Also on the flip side, you don't hear

"Temple is just getting paid more because of their awesome ocs and name recognition but they didn't even have a .500 season. We Tulane won 10 games got to a bowl and temple gets paid more"

Sort of thing. That is only in the mwc now but when our teams our good they should be rewarded instead of " oh look lets pay you in bojangles gift cards when you break out of the cage we made for you" - current tv partner

Dude, I hope you're drunk because that rant made zero sense.

This league is here to stay now, instability however definitely hurt the AAC from the get go $$$, no question... If this league loses one or perhaps two members to expansion this conference still remains very attractive and shouldn't have any problem increasing it's current TV payout, IMHO.

Not ranting I think the exposure is worth the most. Just thought it isn't the worst move

Stay off the drugs son...

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Love it brother!! #socalledpower5 #morelikepower6 #AmericanStrong #Wegotthis

(08-17-2016 08:28 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

For better or worse I just don’t see it happening (ECU fixing basketball). With the deep commitment your university has to baseball and football, evident by your investing in good solid baseball and football coaches and the money spent on the football and baseball facilities, for your administration and key boosters I think basketball is just way too far down the list to get the attention and commitment it needs to turn the program around.

IMO I think you guys have the foundation in place (conference affiliation, TV exposure, media coverage) to turn it around fairly quickly, the only thing lacking is the desire to do it.

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

The danger is that if you give too much of a financial advantage to the top of the league, the bottom can't afford to get better.

What if the TV revenue was divided evenly, but bowl money and NCAA tournament money was only split among teams that made bowls and the tournament?

I see no reason to play the MWC game. AAC is stronger like it is. BB schools for the most part are working the problem, UCF is perfect example, out from under sanctions. fairly new arena, upgrading video boards, upgraded coach. FB has almost everyone doing all they can, as fast as they can. Football really does not have a powerhouse program, but rather 5 to 8 solid programs.
UCF won first title, beating out UL who was expected to win it. 2nd year title split 3 ways, last year UH was what UCF was the first year. UCF won a BCS game, and UH won an access game. Last year 4 different schools were ranked, This year UH, Temple, and USF easily could end up ranked.
This conference is clearly the best of G5 in both football and BB and that won't change with 1 to 3 losses.

(08-17-2016 08:43 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:28 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

For better or worse I just don’t see it happening (ECU fixing basketball). With the deep commitment your university has to baseball and football, evident by your investing in good solid baseball and football coaches and the money spent on the football and baseball facilities, for your administration and key boosters I think basketball is just way too far down the list to get the attention and commitment it needs to turn the program around.

IMO I think you guys have the foundation in place (conference affiliation, TV exposure, media coverage) to turn it around fairly quickly, the only thing lacking is the desire to do it.

I think you are correct unfortunately. I just don't understand pumping tens of millions into a very good practice facility and not following that with commitment to quality coaching. It's bi polar thinking and as I said before it's damned well embarrassing to not have a deep commitment in this basketball crazy state and conference. I hope we are both wrong and what we are talking about changes drastically.

(08-17-2016 10:40 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:43 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:28 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

For better or worse I just don’t see it happening (ECU fixing basketball). With the deep commitment your university has to baseball and football, evident by your investing in good solid baseball and football coaches and the money spent on the football and baseball facilities, for your administration and key boosters I think basketball is just way too far down the list to get the attention and commitment it needs to turn the program around.

IMO I think you guys have the foundation in place (conference affiliation, TV exposure, media coverage) to turn it around fairly quickly, the only thing lacking is the desire to do it.

I think you are correct unfortunately. I just don't understand pumping tens of millions into a very good practice facility and not following that with commitment to quality coaching. It's bi polar thinking and as I said before it's damned well embarrassing to not have a deep commitment in this basketball crazy state and conference. I hope we are both wrong and what we are talking about changes drastically.

I’m no expert on these types of things but it may come down to how things are being budgeted.

Your basketball facility upgrade would fall into the bucket under asset improvement because it increased the value of the asset itself. It would be paid for from the general university fund not your athletic budget.

Coaching salary is a direct reduction of your athletic budget so I can see where the money just isn’t there for the Lebo buy out and new coach’s salary. The part I can’t understand is why would you guys fund a new non-revenue sport, women’s lacrosse, if you are already title 9 compliant when that is a direct hit on the athletic budget and the money isn’t there to invest in basketball. That to me is the evidence that basketball is down pretty far on the priority list.

Recipe for disaster.

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(08-17-2016 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 10:40 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:43 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:28 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 07:40 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Hi everyone,

You all know where I stand and feel about our conference.

I love it, and believe we will get what is deserved.

In regards to the deservance, if we all get paid more, I am okay with a performance based metric for TV value.

In football, our fball power houses would get a bump and basketball uconn temple smu Tulsa would come out. And of course in baseball, Tulane would get some.


This is taking the implications that even if your last, you still get paid more than 2 mill.

Had an awesome fball season? Get paid p6 money. Good basketball season? Get paid good p6 money.

That's where we deal with East Carolinas bad basketball vs uconns and temples dream teams.

Honestly, it's fair. Thoughts?

Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

For better or worse I just don’t see it happening (ECU fixing basketball). With the deep commitment your university has to baseball and football, evident by your investing in good solid baseball and football coaches and the money spent on the football and baseball facilities, for your administration and key boosters I think basketball is just way too far down the list to get the attention and commitment it needs to turn the program around.

IMO I think you guys have the foundation in place (conference affiliation, TV exposure, media coverage) to turn it around fairly quickly, the only thing lacking is the desire to do it.

I think you are correct unfortunately. I just don't understand pumping tens of millions into a very good practice facility and not following that with commitment to quality coaching. It's bi polar thinking and as I said before it's damned well embarrassing to not have a deep commitment in this basketball crazy state and conference. I hope we are both wrong and what we are talking about changes drastically.

I’m no expert on these types of things but it may come down to how things are being budgeted.

Your basketball facility upgrade would fall into the bucket under asset improvement because it increased the value of the asset itself. It would be paid for from the general university fund not your athletic budget.

Coaching salary is a direct reduction of your athletic budget so I can see where the money just isn’t there for the Lebo buy out and new coach’s salary. The part I can’t understand is why would you guys fund a new non-revenue sport, women’s lacrosse, if you are already title 9 compliant when that is a direct hit on the athletic budget and the money isn’t there to invest in basketball. That to me is the evidence that basketball is down pretty far on the priority list.

Well the basketball practice facility was built with private money so there was no hit to the budget thankfully.

What's worse is Lebo was extended last year I think, I'm not sure the time frame honestly. That was illogical and really makes me seriously concerned about our AD's thinking. He fired Ruff and extended Lebo. Just WTF..

I really have no idea on the women's lacrosse. More mind boggling thinking on the administration's part.

(08-18-2016 12:33 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:14 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 10:40 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:43 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 08:28 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Novel idea, it's the same thing BSU pulled and was shown the door for. However I do like the idea with some tweaking because it would provide some incentive for ECU AD to get off their a$$'s and hire a good basketball coach. Our basketball is horrendous and is embarrassing for our conference and it HAS to be fixed.

For better or worse I just don’t see it happening (ECU fixing basketball). With the deep commitment your university has to baseball and football, evident by your investing in good solid baseball and football coaches and the money spent on the football and baseball facilities, for your administration and key boosters I think basketball is just way too far down the list to get the attention and commitment it needs to turn the program around.

IMO I think you guys have the foundation in place (conference affiliation, TV exposure, media coverage) to turn it around fairly quickly, the only thing lacking is the desire to do it.

I think you are correct unfortunately. I just don't understand pumping tens of millions into a very good practice facility and not following that with commitment to quality coaching. It's bi polar thinking and as I said before it's damned well embarrassing to not have a deep commitment in this basketball crazy state and conference. I hope we are both wrong and what we are talking about changes drastically.

I’m no expert on these types of things but it may come down to how things are being budgeted.

Your basketball facility upgrade would fall into the bucket under asset improvement because it increased the value of the asset itself. It would be paid for from the general university fund not your athletic budget.

Coaching salary is a direct reduction of your athletic budget so I can see where the money just isn’t there for the Lebo buy out and new coach’s salary. The part I can’t understand is why would you guys fund a new non-revenue sport, women’s lacrosse, if you are already title 9 compliant when that is a direct hit on the athletic budget and the money isn’t there to invest in basketball. That to me is the evidence that basketball is down pretty far on the priority list.

Well the basketball practice facility was built with private money so there was no hit to the budget thankfully.

What's worse is Lebo was extended last year I think, I'm not sure the time frame honestly. That was illogical and really makes me seriously concerned about our AD's thinking. He fired Ruff and extended Lebo. Just WTF..

I really have no idea on the women's lacrosse. More mind boggling thinking on the administration's part.

This guy just became available... and he's an enormous upgrade from the Tarheel you have running your program into the ground. He also knows the AAC.

He'd fill Minges.

There will be no new contract until the AAC knows how many teams it will have and who they will be. The AAC may possible lose:

Cincinnati
Central Florida
Connecticut
Houston
Memphis
South Florida