(08-17-2016 12:15 PM)owl95 Wrote:  Another story about this from Fox 26. It lists many of our positives.
http://www.fox26houston.com/sports/192263333-story

#4 in MONEY's 'Top 25 Colleges.'

http://time.com/money/4395524/25-best-colleges-2016/

(08-16-2016 10:59 PM)owl40 Wrote:  Love it. People here should comment on that Dallas article. Big XII HQ in Dallas. Guy writing that piece has way more street cred on this topic than Coleman.

Interesting take in that Dallas article:

" Hey, if the Big 12 wants an academic powerhouse, how about Rice -- which actually has gotten competitive in football?"

Maybe the bowls DID get us a little street cred, at least with this guy.

(08-17-2016 11:08 AM)owl95 Wrote:  It does seem to be getting a lot of traction and while people should know that i'm no Bailiff apologist, it does seem that the recent bowls and conference championship are lending some credibility to our football team. For instance, in comparison to Tulane, a commenter pointed out that Tulane hasn't been to a bowl since 2002, where as multiple articles and comments have pointed out that Rice has at least won bowls and been somewhat competitive in recent years.

Sorry to stir the pot, but that is what I am seeing out there in the articles and comments. I don't want to get my hopes up, but this coverage can be nothing but positive for our athletics and our school.

Tulane went to the NOLA bowl a few years ago, we still have mostly stunk but have made a huge upgrade in our athletic budgets recently and have fully came back from Katrina. Rice, TU and Buff are the only non-P5 AAU schools left. Also the NOLA market (though a fraction of the size) isn't as saturated as the Houston market. In addition, LA and Ohio are the only major recruiting states with only one P5 school.

As laughable as it may seem, Tulane is probably getting more support for a B12 invitation than most realize, IMHO.

(08-17-2016 03:00 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:08 AM)owl95 Wrote:  It does seem to be getting a lot of traction and while people should know that i'm no Bailiff apologist, it does seem that the recent bowls and conference championship are lending some credibility to our football team. For instance, in comparison to Tulane, a commenter pointed out that Tulane hasn't been to a bowl since 2002, where as multiple articles and comments have pointed out that Rice has at least won bowls and been somewhat competitive in recent years.

Sorry to stir the pot, but that is what I am seeing out there in the articles and comments. I don't want to get my hopes up, but this coverage can be nothing but positive for our athletics and our school.

Tulane went to the NOLA bowl a few years ago, we still have mostly stunk but have made a huge upgrade in our athletic budgets recently and have fully came back from Katrina. Rice, TU and Buff are the only non-P5 AAU schools left. Also the NOLA market (though a fraction of the size) isn't as saturated as the Houston market. In addition, LA and Ohio are the only major recruiting states with only one P5 school.

As laughable as it may seem, Tulane is probably getting more support for a B12 invitation than most realize, IMHO.

Not laughable at all. I take a Tulane invitation very seriously. You have academics and location in your favor. If any major conference is serious about getting in on Louisiana recruiting, Tulane is a no brainer.

I love Rice and would be thrilled if we got into the Big 12. I just don't see another Texas team making the cut. Texas and Tech have both publicly supported UH, but that is public, this will be decided in private. Gundy at OSU and Dana Dimel the OC at KSU have both spoken publically against UH. It only takes 3 schools to block a candidate, and I don't see Baylor, WVU,KU, or ISU being thrilled to compete with UH for Houston recruits.

Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

Yes, I agree Houston Owl. However, the fact remains that Tulane is an easy way for the BigXII to get a foothold in Louisiana. I'm not saying that Tulane is a shoe in, just that we should not be so quick to dismiss them. They got into the AAC after all.

Past evidence has shown that games like Rice-Kansas and Rice-Iowa State would draw HUGE crowds in the Houston market, so we're definitely better than Tulane in that regard......

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

(08-17-2016 11:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

You're nuts if you think Tulane in the B12 is going to adversely impact LSU's recruiting. LSU absolutely owns the state, perhaps moreso than any state school in the country. Tulane will continue to get only the scraps that LSU leaves behind, and many of those will not meet their academic requirements given that Louisiana ranks amongst the 5 worst educated states in the country.

(08-17-2016 11:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

You're nuts if you think Tulane in the B12 is going to adversely impact LSU's recruiting. LSU absolutely owns the state, perhaps moreso than any state school in the country. Tulane will continue to get only the scraps that LSU leaves behind, and many of those will not meet their academic requirements given that Louisiana ranks amongst the 5 worst educated states in the country.

True. I think the more plausible route for Tulane in the Big XII affecting LSU's recruiting is the rest of the XII getting a game there every two years.

SEC football gets more fans than Big12 football.

(08-17-2016 11:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

You're nuts if you think Tulane in the B12 is going to adversely impact LSU's recruiting. LSU absolutely owns the state, perhaps moreso than any state school in the country. Tulane will continue to get only the scraps that LSU leaves behind, and many of those will not meet their academic requirements given that Louisiana ranks amongst the 5 worst educated states in the country.

(08-18-2016 11:23 AM)baker-13 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

You're nuts if you think Tulane in the B12 is going to adversely impact LSU's recruiting. LSU absolutely owns the state, perhaps moreso than any state school in the country. Tulane will continue to get only the scraps that LSU leaves behind, and many of those will not meet their academic requirements given that Louisiana ranks amongst the 5 worst educated states in the country.

True. I think the more plausible route for Tulane in the Big XII affecting LSU's recruiting is the rest of the XII getting a game there every two years.

Complete garbage. Tulane in the B12 would absolutely impact LSU. Part of the reason LSU has been so dominant is that LA is one of the only major recruiting states with only 1 P5. Many NOLA kids would stay home and the schools in NOLA are fine academically. Look there are only so many starting positions available it's just that Tulane has stunk

(08-19-2016 08:52 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-18-2016 11:23 AM)baker-13 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 11:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(08-17-2016 04:33 PM)Houston Owl Wrote:  Let's see. Iowa State plays Tulane in a football game on Saturday afternoon in New Orleans. In addition, LSU plays Alabama at the same time in Baton Rouge. I'm sure the Big 12 is looking forward to those demographics.

(I guess if East Carolina can deliver the State of North Carolina then Tulane can deliver the State of Louisiana)

U r making the assumption that we r talking about the current iteration of Tulane, not the one getting $10-15mm from the b12. Recruiting local athletes to a b12 level (we would also get ut and ou every other year). It in fact would be a huge dent on LSU. Tulane got plenty of fans back in the day.

You're nuts if you think Tulane in the B12 is going to adversely impact LSU's recruiting. LSU absolutely owns the state, perhaps moreso than any state school in the country. Tulane will continue to get only the scraps that LSU leaves behind, and many of those will not meet their academic requirements given that Louisiana ranks amongst the 5 worst educated states in the country.

True. I think the more plausible route for Tulane in the Big XII affecting LSU's recruiting is the rest of the XII getting a game there every two years.

Complete garbage. Tulane in the B12 would absolutely impact LSU. Part of the reason LSU has been so dominant is that LA is one of the only major recruiting states with only 1 P5. Many NOLA kids would stay home and the schools in NOLA are fine academically. Look there are only so many starting positions available it's just that Tulane has stunk

Have to disagree. Tulane used to be in the SEC. I believe that it left in the mid 60s. Coincidentally, I was in high school in Baton Rouge at about that time. I do not remember Tulane as being a factor in sports at that time. Kids in Louisiana, at least back then, dreamed of playing for LSU. I would be surprised if that has changed much.

Tulane actually had some good teams back in the day, IIRC. Remember Mack Brown coached there before he went to North Carolina. I think Rich Rodriguez was his top assistant, but Tulane didn't replace Mack with Rich because they thought he would leave at first opportunity (big mistake). I think I remember Tulane playing in the Bluebonnet bowl, as well.

(08-20-2016 02:21 PM)davidw Wrote:  Tulane actually had some good teams back in the day, IIRC. Remember Mack Brown coached there before he went to North Carolina. I think Rich Rodriguez was his top assistant, but Tulane didn't replace Mack with Rich because they thought he would leave at first opportunity (big mistake). I think I remember Tulane playing in the Bluebonnet bowl, as well.

Tulane went undefeated in '98 when Bobby Bowden was the head coach and Rich Rod was the OC. Shaun King was the QB, the first of a few very good QBs to play for them.

(08-20-2016 02:39 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:21 PM)davidw Wrote:  Tulane actually had some good teams back in the day, IIRC. Remember Mack Brown coached there before he went to North Carolina. I think Rich Rodriguez was his top assistant, but Tulane didn't replace Mack with Rich because they thought he would leave at first opportunity (big mistake). I think I remember Tulane playing in the Bluebonnet bowl, as well.

Tulane went undefeated in '98 when Bobby Bowden was the head coach and Rich Rod was the OC. Shaun King was the QB, the first of a few very good QBs to play for them.

Tommy Bowden.

(08-20-2016 03:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:39 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 02:21 PM)davidw Wrote:  Tulane actually had some good teams back in the day, IIRC. Remember Mack Brown coached there before he went to North Carolina. I think Rich Rodriguez was his top assistant, but Tulane didn't replace Mack with Rich because they thought he would leave at first opportunity (big mistake). I think I remember Tulane playing in the Bluebonnet bowl, as well.

Tulane went undefeated in '98 when Bobby Bowden was the head coach and Rich Rod was the OC. Shaun King was the QB, the first of a few very good QBs to play for them.

Tommy Bowden.

Oh goodness, I didn't realize my wires were that crossed. Definitely not Bobby.