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(08-17-2016 04:29 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
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(08-17-2016 02:09 PM)monarx Wrote:  I love DW, but he really is fragile. Hope he's fine, and a great QB for us all season, but Shuler better be ready to go at all times.

I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.
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RE: David Washington Injured
I hope everyone wasnt thinking DW was going to be our saviour. Remember how we got whooped by FIU with DW as QB. Its not the QB, its the Offensive line that fails at protecting the QB. If the O-line still dont develop, we wont win a lot of games this year.
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 04:43 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-17-2016 02:09 PM)monarx Wrote:  I love DW, but he really is fragile. Hope he's fine, and a great QB for us all season, but Shuler better be ready to go at all times.

I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.

Actually if he tore his patellar tendon that would be worse than what happened to him.

He was cleared to play by his Dr.

The MRI is precautionary and so they know what to do going forward. Rehab/clear him/limit him/shut him down for the year. We'll find out.
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 05:28 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 04:43 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:29 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.

Actually if he tore his patellar tendon that would be worse than what happened to him.

He was cleared to play by his Dr.

The MRI is precautionary and so they know what to do going forward. Rehab/clear him/limit him/shut him down for the year. We'll find out.
Please provide link for Doctor clearance. I read everything about the team, haven't read that one though. Kid's thrown to the meat grinder for the "aim high philosophy". Oh and surgery was in December, so actually he was full tilt practice in 8 months. Yeah we have a genius as a head coach. No wonder he was a coordinator and associate head coach for 17 years!!! At Maine no less.
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RE: David Washington Injured
Let's ask the expert. What say you HM. Cleared to practice or not?
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:29 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:09 PM)monarx Wrote:  I love DW, but he really is fragile. Hope he's fine, and a great QB for us all season, but Shuler better be ready to go at all times.

I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.
My dad had a double knee replacement and wad back to work doing construction in 3 months. He was still taking it slow but he was going up and down ladders. Knee replacement surgery recovery isn't too long if you put in the time for physical therapy.

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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 07:09 PM)benny_t Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:29 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:09 PM)monarx Wrote:  I love DW, but he really is fragile. Hope he's fine, and a great QB for us all season, but Shuler better be ready to go at all times.

I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.
My dad had a double knee replacement and wad back to work doing construction in 3 months. He was still taking it slow but he was going up and down ladders. Knee replacement surgery recovery isn't too long if you put in the time for physical therapy.

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I'm 36 but fear my 60s due to me beating the hell out of my body. By then I'll just do a lower torso swap.

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DW is a athlete with heart. BW couldn't keep DW out of he weight room this past spring. Hell DW was itching to play in the spring game and even dressed for the game.

Hear for yourself DW was cleared to play by his OWN DOCTOR. Go to 4:35 mark https://soundcloud.com/espnradio94-1/bob...der-8-4-16
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People acting like it's their right to see his medical documents. Not everything is public information. You want to see his birth certificate and social security card too?
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 04:43 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 04:29 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:29 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 02:09 PM)monarx Wrote:  I love DW, but he really is fragile. Hope he's fine, and a great QB for us all season, but Shuler better be ready to go at all times.

I wouldn't say he is fragile. I think he is just so competitive that he puts himself at risk when there is no need. This was probably just a fluke. He has been at the gym playing pickup basketball since March/April and he looked like he was fine.

He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.

I believe its been more than 9 months, but yea, football players come back in 9 months or less all the time. Im no doctor but the meniscus and mcl are not long layoffs, its all about the ACL from what i hear.
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 05:48 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-17-2016 04:43 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.

Actually if he tore his patellar tendon that would be worse than what happened to him.

He was cleared to play by his Dr.

The MRI is precautionary and so they know what to do going forward. Rehab/clear him/limit him/shut him down for the year. We'll find out.
Please provide link for Doctor clearance. I read everything about the team, haven't read that one though. Kid's thrown to the meat grinder for the "aim high philosophy". Oh and surgery was in December, so actually he was full tilt practice in 8 months. Yeah we have a genius as a head coach. No wonder he was a coordinator and associate head coach for 17 years!!! At Maine no less.

You are just being dumb now. Trying to find a reason to blame the coach. He was cleared to practice. They even held him out longer to try to be safe.

You think Wilder believes we need Washington to
Beat Hampton, lol
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Guys at this level MRIs are commonplace as a precaution. Heck in the pros they MRI guys for pulled muscles. How about we not panic and cross the bridge when we get to it.
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(08-17-2016 08:41 PM)HickoryMonarch Wrote:  Guys at this level MRIs are commonplace as a precaution. Heck in the pros they MRI guys for pulled muscles. How about we not panic and cross the bridge when we get to it.

I hope you're right. Wilder needs to pull the plug on Washington now. Kid's not ready. Everyone knows it. He needs more time to heal. Start giving Bentley the snaps with the first team. Hell that's what he was recruited for. A gimpy Washington with a shaky offensive line spells disaster. And you know he'll take off and run when what he needs to do is hand off to Lawry. A healthy dose of run blocking is best for an inexperienced offensive line.
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David's twitter feed is not making me feel optimistic. Nothing stated outright though, so I guess we'll see.
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RE: David Washington Injured
(08-17-2016 05:48 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 05:28 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 04:43 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 04:29 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  He is a senior. It's his last chance to play. Of course he is going to say he's fine. It's up to the coach to be the adult in the room. Hopefully this is just precautionary, but I have a sinking feeling that it's not. And for all the naysayers out there, believe it or not you only are granted one set of knees. I am scheduled for a complete knee replacement....at 54 years old. So don't talk **** to me. I know what I'm talking about.

In regards to yourself, yes. As far as others, not so much.

He tore the MCL, ACL and meniscus. Probably the only way you could hurt your knee more would be to physically tear your lower leg off. Do you honestly think his orthopedic surgeon released him to play football after only 9 mos? Get real. I guess you guy's think these kids are disposable. As long as we've got the depth, hey no problem!!! Big problem for David Washington when he gets older. Trust me on that one.

Actually if he tore his patellar tendon that would be worse than what happened to him.

He was cleared to play by his Dr.

The MRI is precautionary and so they know what to do going forward. Rehab/clear him/limit him/shut him down for the year. We'll find out.
Please provide link for Doctor clearance. I read everything about the team, haven't read that one though. Kid's thrown to the meat grinder for the "aim high philosophy". Oh and surgery was in December, so actually he was full tilt practice in 8 months. Yeah we have a genius as a head coach. No wonder he was a coordinator and associate head coach for 17 years!!! At Maine no less.

Here is the link you asked for. It was an interview of BW on soundcloud. It is at around the 4:40 mark where BW says "David Washington was cleared by his doctor yesterday." Any idea that BW would have a player practicing after a major surgery without first having the player cleared by his doctor first is silly (because ODU would be open to major liabilities), and insulting to BW, because he is better than that.

https://m.soundcloud.com/espnradio94-1/b...der-8-4-16
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(08-17-2016 09:08 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 08:41 PM)HickoryMonarch Wrote:  Guys at this level MRIs are commonplace as a precaution. Heck in the pros they MRI guys for pulled muscles. How about we not panic and cross the bridge when we get to it.

I hope you're right. Wilder needs to pull the plug on Washington now. Kid's not ready. Everyone knows it. He needs more time to heal. Start giving Bentley the snaps with the first team. Hell that's what he was recruited for. A gimpy Washington with a shaky offensive line spells disaster. And you know he'll take off and run when what he needs to do is hand off to Lawry. A healthy dose of run blocking is best for an inexperienced offensive line.

I can't say I agree with you here. The doctors and medical staff have said his knee was good to practice we must trust them. They have DW's best interest at heart. I think we wait on the results. You can't just summarily tell DW it's over. Hopefully this is a case it's that first time you truly test the knee to see what it can do. He felt some discomfort and was immediately pulled from practice and the MRI was scheduled. The coaches acted responsibly. As for SB starting after ladt year if DW can play he should play!! Even if he is not at full speed he is a superior athlete and QB to Shuler!!!!!
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Who knows, he may have just torn some scar tissue. Having done that myself, I know it will scare you at first. Hopefully the MRI shows everything intact and that is the case.

To me worst case scenario is he is indeed hurt, gets a medical redshirt and plays next year. I don't think that is necessarily bad. Gives him time to heal, he gets reps in the spring and can participate in full summer workouts. Contrary to what everyone says, we are still a young team with only a dozen seniors.
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I remember breaking my ankle. After getting out of the cast, trying to walk was difficult. Every now and then a lesion? or scar tissue would break fee and it hurt briefly. At the time it feels like you've torn up something important, but it's not, just part of the healing process.
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(08-18-2016 05:51 AM)HickoryMonarch Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 09:08 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-17-2016 08:41 PM)HickoryMonarch Wrote:  Guys at this level MRIs are commonplace as a precaution. Heck in the pros they MRI guys for pulled muscles. How about we not panic and cross the bridge when we get to it.

I hope you're right. Wilder needs to pull the plug on Washington now. Kid's not ready. Everyone knows it. He needs more time to heal. Start giving Bentley the snaps with the first team. Hell that's what he was recruited for. A gimpy Washington with a shaky offensive line spells disaster. And you know he'll take off and run when what he needs to do is hand off to Lawry. A healthy dose of run blocking is best for an inexperienced offensive line.

I can't say I agree with you here. The doctors and medical staff have said his knee was good to practice we must trust them. They have DW's best interest at heart. I think we wait on the results. You can't just summarily tell DW it's over. Hopefully this is a case it's that first time you truly test the knee to see what it can do. He felt some discomfort and was immediately pulled from practice and the MRI was scheduled. The coaches acted responsibly. As for SB starting after ladt year if DW can play he should play!! Even if he is not at full speed he is a superior athlete and QB to Shuler!!!!!
Hopefully Coach Whitcomb, after viewing Bentley in actual game situations, has had the opportunity to work with him. His problems seemed to be mechanical to me. And also due to the lack of experience. My question is; If David Washington is so clearly the better quarterback, why make him a wide receiver? In hindsight that doesn't seem like a very good decision.
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