(08-18-2016 12:47 PM)L-yes Wrote: (08-18-2016 08:53 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: (08-18-2016 07:43 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (08-17-2016 07:41 PM)sportsfather1 Wrote: (08-17-2016 04:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote: Also been bowl eligible many more times than UConn's total football history in years.
I don't see UConn getting in the Big 12 but they did at least go to a BCS bowl game a few years ago.
Which was the beginning of the end of the Big East and their P6 status.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_C...Bowl_Games
The Big East had an 8–7 record in BCS bowl games, including a 1–2 record in National Championship games.
The Big East was a much better football conference than it was ever given credit for though it did experience quality swings.
To me this perception is an example of how severely media driven narratives effect the realities of college football. The pundits get zeroed in on a narrative for a season and they will play on it and harp on it for the entire year regardless of the reality as it plays out on the field and often that fabrication remains ingrained in the psyche of the casual fan.
A good example of this was a couple of years ago when the SEC hype train was at a fever pitch in the pre-season. ESPN talking heads were selling it as literally the best ever iteration of the best conference in history. It was a huge and committed oversell and it generated fan backlash that ESPN childishly reacted to.
Early on that year there were some match-ups where ranked SEC teams were playing each other. The loser would maybe drop a point in the polls and the winner would vault 3-4 positions. If it was an upset the shift was even more pronounced for the winner. As the season wore on it became clear to any fan that it wasn't superior football being played in the SEC, it was parity and even mediocrity in the supposed "BEST CONFERENCE EVARRR". Even into mid-season there was talk about an all SEC National Championship game (even conversation about a rematch) which was laughable. The narrative in the media was impacting poll voters. ESPN doubled down and rode it out until the SEC had one of its worst bowl seasons in recent history. The whole thing was bad for the sport and embarrassing as hell.
You can be as jealous as you want to be, but, the SEC has been by far the best overall conference, and has had a few seasons where they were ridiculously good. Recognizing that makes you a realist, and does not mean you do not support your own.
The Big East had a few nice seasons overall, but those were based on much more limited samples, not sustained, and simply not in the same universe as the SEC.
The SEC has been the best, it is not a media creation.
Now, if your point is that while the SEC has been the top conference, they still got disproportionate coverage for that, you are making a more reasoned point.
Even cherry picking some high profile losses cannot change the big picture records the last decade, which are way ahead of everyone else. No one ever realistically argued that there were not other really strong teams, the Oklahomas and the Southern Cals and many more, and of course other teams had their moments and SEC teams suffered big upsets and losses. But looking at the totality, it is not remotely close.
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