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The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
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Quote:The plan: An NCAA universe that pits the most powerful programs against each other.

Featuring a revolutionary relegation system, this new league will render the terms “Big Ten” and “SEC” useless, not to mention “FBS” and “FCS.
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RE: The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
Promotion/relegation is a great system for European soccer.

Not so much for CFB.
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I actually think Promotion/Relegation would work great on college football. It would allow teams that deserve to be in power conferences to get there. And if the bottom dwellers who are only good by word of mouth are actually good, they'll keep their spot. It also makes end of the year more meaningful for bad teams.

Also, fanbases wouldn't desert a team if they got relegated. That's the best thing about it. It builds more school loyalty. USM can be in the SEC in that scenario and every year is our opportunity to prove we belong. A lot of bandwagon fans will cheer for their appropriate schools if they actually believe their school can be top of competition.
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RE: The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
I like that if the teams in the top division can't win there, they go to the Big Dance to earn their way back up. Obviously it works the other way too. So like the writer said, seeing UAPB win the national championship would be interesting. If you think about it, there are millions of fans "on the sidelines" presently because their schools have been made irrelevant and giving them the opportunity to prove themselves makes more money for everyone in the end. More TV money, ad money, licensing money, etc. The freakin idiots at espn are like congress...no damn practical experience at making money, just know how to waste it.
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RE: The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
I am a fan of promotion/relegation. It works well in professional sports, but not so much for college. I think it could have a chance of being a good idea if there was some expansion of the number of power schools then a power split in football. Let's say 80 schools (current power 65 + 15 schools.)

I would recommend two leagues. At the top of each league was a 16-school elite conference. That would be above a 24-school power conference. The power conference would have a 4-team playoff (3 division champions + wild card.) The championship finalists in the power conference would be promoted and the bottom 2 of the elite conference would be relegated. The divisions would then be shuffled geographically.

Eastern League

Elite Conference

Southeastern Division: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas A&M
Atlantic Division: Clemson, Florida St, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, Penn St, Virginia, Virginia Tech

Power Conference

East Division: Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
Coastal Division: Central Florida, Duke, East Carolina, Georgia Tech, North Carolina St, South Carolina, South Florida, Wake Forest
Valley Division: Arkansas, Baylor, Houston, Kentucky, Louisville, Memphis, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt

Western League

Elite Conference

Big Division: Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Wisconsin
Pacific Division: Arizona, Oklahoma, Oregon, Stanford, Texas, UCLA, USC, Washington

Power Conference

Central Division: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Northwestern, Purdue
Mountain Division: Arizona St, Colorado, Colorado St, New Mexico, Oklahoma St, TCU, Texas Tech, UNLV
West Division: BYU, Boise St, California, Hawaii, Oregon St, San Diego St, Utah, Washington St

Maybe you would have different schools or a different set up!
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This would be a disaster for college sports. Worse than the BCS and CFP.
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It would be nice but the P5 schools would not go for it. They have no interest in propping up the Cincinnati's and UConn of the world at the expense of the weaker protected schools.
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Did David St get a blog?

Also why is ECU in the Virginia Conference and the NC conference, yet Wofford is the NC conference?
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RE: The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
(09-14-2017 10:20 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Did David St get a blog?

Also why is ECU in the Virginia Conference and the NC conference, yet Wofford is the NC conference?

haha
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(08-15-2016 06:49 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I actually think Promotion/Relegation would work great on college football. It would allow teams that deserve to be in power conferences to get there. And if the bottom dwellers who are only good by word of mouth are actually good, they'll keep their spot. It also makes end of the year more meaningful for bad teams.

Also, fanbases wouldn't desert a team if they got relegated. That's the best thing about it. It builds more school loyalty. USM can be in the SEC in that scenario and every year is our opportunity to prove we belong. A lot of bandwagon fans will cheer for their appropriate schools if they actually believe their school can be top of competition.

No. It wouldnt work great for one reason. Money. College AD's have to be able to budget years in advance in order to handle multi year financial commitments like building facilities and coaching contracts. You can't have P5 revenue one year and G5 the next. No president or AD (certainly no current P5 president or AD) would ever vote for system that does that. In theory relegation and promotion would be fun---but in the real world of college athletics, it wont work.
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It's not called a good ole boys club for no reason. Never going to happen....
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I've mentioned this a few times in the past on this board and others. I think it would be great, but far too many fans here get angry about the idea.

Either do this or a real play off. Win your conference to get a bid. Would result in a major realignment as the powers look to move away from each other so they can more easily win a conference will some less talented schools. This could result in some fantastic underdog teams making it far into the post season.
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It would work for fans who are on the sidelines who are not fans of 5 conferences. It would get school spirit back u for the fans to support. As it is, there are more than 20 million fans of other schools are on the outside of the P5 to even get to the playoffs.
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RE: The most radical NCAA conference realignment plan you’ve ever seen
(08-15-2016 05:51 PM)99beers Wrote:  https://www.seccountry.com/sec/the-most-...-ever-seen

Quote:The plan: An NCAA universe that pits the most powerful programs against each other.

Featuring a revolutionary relegation system, this new league will render the terms “Big Ten” and “SEC” useless, not to mention “FBS” and “FCS.

Why am I not surprised this would come from a SEC website.....

The Super East is all cozy, neat and all relatively close. The Super West is pretty much the rest of the country. How convenient. Not exactly fair to have one division in a single time zone while the other has to fly across the entire nation to play.

Speaking of which, the "U" hasn't exactly been a power since the early 2000's, neither has LSU, and Florida hasn't torn it up since Urban left. Seems like half the division is based on the past, not necessarily the past 10 years.

The All American West is OK, except for Iowa hasn't done squat, you'd be better off with Louisville. The All American West? Baylor is borderline FCS now, Boise State is overrated and has gaudy numbers thanks to playing no one, Missouri is bad. That could easily be reworked say with Arkansas or GT for example.

Thanks, but no thanks.
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The primary effect of promotion/relegation is to increase the power of the top-10 programs.

NO ONE with an offer from Michigan/Oklahoma/USC would go to Michigan State/Oklahoma State/UCLA if there was even a 10% chance that Michigan State/Oklahoma State/UCLA would be relegated by their senior year.

Just look at European Soccer. Since Germany started promotion/relegation, 1 team (Munich) has won 26 of the 54 championships. Just 2 teams have won 2/3 of the 86 La Liga championships since they started relegation. Is this the type of dominance you want in College Football?
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Can we please leave this only for division 1 programs. There are some lower level programs that don't belong
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(09-14-2017 10:20 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Did David St get a blog?

Also why is ECU in the Virginia Conference and the NC conference, yet Wofford is the NC conference?

He commented at the bottom of the article. Confirms everything!
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(09-16-2017 11:48 AM)SactoHornetAlum Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:20 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Did David St get a blog?

Also why is ECU in the Virginia Conference and the NC conference, yet Wofford is the NC conference?

He commented at the bottom of the article. Confirms everything!


He left off North Alabama which I replied to his article. Schools with football moving up to D1 should be included. There are talk that the D1 could go 1-A and 1-AA in all sports. That could mean some of the top FCS conferences could be FBS like Big Sky, MVFC as a new conference, Southland, OVC, CAA football as a new conference, and Southern. Could see schools move their teams around to go 1A for all sports like North Alabama, Azusa Pacific, West Texas A&M, Wichita State adding football, Kennesaw State, Fordham, Dayton, VCU, North Florida and some others adding football. Non-football members will be regulated to 1AA. Bye bye Little Rock and UTA. New 1AA conference in the southwest could be formed with Little Rock, UTA, New Orleans, UTRGV, Texas A&m CC and maybe some of the new Lone Star none football schools like UAFS, Cameron and the likes. Gulf South, some GAC schools, Lone Star, GNAC including the football affiliates, top California D2 schools like UC-San Diego and so forth. This might bring up some of the Minnesota schools which would not compete against Minnesota in all sports for titles. The Michigan schools could bring up their whole conference to 1-AA for all sports and so all that. RMAC and GNAC football schools merge as one conference for football. Now 1A P5 schools can actually play against D2 schools in all sports that could count in their records. Alaska putting an L on a P5 school would be funny that counted.
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