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(08-17-2016 08:55 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 09:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 01:36 PM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 10:06 AM)Moomba Wrote:  Football got much more focus once pretty boy Peej showed up, no denying that PR.

We have almost ALWAYS been a football school first. Certainly in the last 30 years.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand...

The money saved from not hiring that secretary makes your point!

Yes, I guess that money was used to hire all that help in the other sports...


Football has more now with PJ, but that doesn't mean football didn't always have more than the other sports.

How does not providing the previous HC a secretary and having him do that work instead support your point about WMU's commitment?

Not wanting to get "into the weeds" but as Major points out "more" in actual terms is a no brainer and an absurd point.

In relative terms were Hockey and Basketball denied a secretary too?

I honestly don't know but the singular point of denying Bill Cubit a secretary or putting him in a financial position to appropriate that $ between that and something else is equally absurd.

Kent is smart to re-invest in basketball. They had an Elite 8 run which helped put them on the basketball map nationally. They have not invested since then. If they had pounced on the opportunity during their run, they had the chance to become the best program in the MAC hands down. If a MAC school wants national recognition, basketball has the chance to do it during March Madness. We've all seen mid-major basketball teams flourish and give their university national recognition. Kent St. could have done that.

(08-21-2016 12:06 PM)Riley1903 Wrote:  Kent is smart to re-invest in basketball. They had an Elite 8 run which helped put them on the basketball map nationally. They have not invested since then. If they had pounced on the opportunity during their run, they had the chance to become the best program in the MAC hands down. If a MAC school wants national recognition, basketball has the chance to do it during March Madness. We've all seen mid-major basketball teams flourish and give their university national recognition. Kent St. could have done that.

KSU did just fine in that run of 3 HC, Waters, Montel Williams and Christian. Not sure how they "re-invested" $ which I think are spread through conference. It wouldn't be enough to keep the HC around and the fact they continued on was amazing.

But unless you have kids leaving for the pros every year or two you cant just reload you have to rebuild. That takes some time as the non-pros develop and adding in a change of HC on several occasions is all the more remarkable what the Flashes did.

I don't know the payout for March Madness vs a bowl game (not the one where you lose $). I think that the ROI may be greater with buckets because the costs are far less. But I don't know.

What I do know is I like that KSU is making BB a point of emphasis.

I like that the Golden Showers are making it their emphasis as well. More power to them.

We need to step up in the hoops area, let the "cult of Fleckies" have their way on Stadium, move on by ourselves.

It's not either/or.

Rising tide raises all boats.

The league made a decision about football, ramped things up, got more bowls, got the TV deal.

Now I don't know why you can't do both. I think that would be a good thing to consider. But it should be a league decision involving the presidents, bean counters, AD's.

OK for Kent or others to add resources to basketball if they have the budget, but they need to coordinate at the league level or it won't make much difference.

(08-22-2016 09:25 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  It's not either/or.

Rising tide raises all boats.

The league made a decision about football, ramped things up, got more bowls, got the TV deal.

Now I don't know why you can't do both. I think that would be a good thing to consider. But it should be a league decision involving the presidents, bean counters, AD's.

OK for Kent or others to add resources to basketball if they have the budget, but they need to coordinate at the league level or it won't make much difference.

Have the budget is the question. Limited resources and what can be invested providing the best ROI while attaining longevity on that climb?

Since TV seems to be the cash cow it isn't impractical to look at where you can get an enhanced revenue stream while reducing your overhead.

Not in alignment with the balance of the conference? I can then see a move out to where KSU would join Xavier, DePaul, Dayton, St. Louis, Duquense, Oakland, St. John's, Marquette, Temple, Davidson and Georgetown in a no or 1aa football conference. Connect to big cities, all hoops and reduced costs.

(08-22-2016 09:45 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 09:25 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  It's not either/or.

Rising tide raises all boats.

The league made a decision about football, ramped things up, got more bowls, got the TV deal.

Now I don't know why you can't do both. I think that would be a good thing to consider. But it should be a league decision involving the presidents, bean counters, AD's.

OK for Kent or others to add resources to basketball if they have the budget, but they need to coordinate at the league level or it won't make much difference.

Have the budget is the question. Limited resources and what can be invested providing the best ROI while attaining longevity on that climb?

Since TV seems to be the cash cow it isn't impractical to look at where you can get an enhanced revenue stream while reducing your overhead.

Not in alignment with the balance of the conference? I can then see a move out to where KSU would join Xavier, DePaul, Dayton, St. Louis, Duquense, Oakland, St. John's, Marquette, Temple, Davidson and Georgetown in a no or 1aa football conference. Connect to big cities, all hoops and reduced costs.

Your insight is valuable to understanding the implications of Kent's strategic planning process. As football gets more and more structured and expensive and exclusive, going with a B-ball emphasis at schools that have experienced success with that becomes a more viable and desire able direction.