(08-15-2016 02:17 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:12 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Hard to be upwardly mobile when you die because you can't afford health insurance.

Not having health insurance ins't a leading cause of death.

boom!

Harvard study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/20...-coverage/

That's about how many Americans die in car accidents annually. Oh and way more than the number of Americans who die from terrorism, which Republicans are always freaking out about.

and who's fault is that? Are you trying to guilt trip me that I should provide healthcare to less fortunate?

(08-15-2016 02:19 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Harvard study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/20...-coverage/

That's about how many Americans die in car accidents annually. Oh and way more than the number of Americans who die from terrorism, which Republicans are always freaking out about.

Why can't they pay for their own? Why can't they make a budget?

It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

so what do you call medicare, medicaid and CHIP?

(08-15-2016 02:33 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

so what do you call medicare, medicaid and CHIP?

What are things Republicans oppose, underfund, and want to scrap, Mr. Trebek? I'll take that same category for 400 dollars next please.

(08-15-2016 02:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:33 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

so what do you call medicare, medicaid and CHIP?

What are things Republicans oppose, underfund, and want to scrap, Mr. Trebek? I'll take that same category for 400 dollars next please.

so republicans are opposed to medicare, medicaid and CHIP?

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care.

Sick of this stupid line. I'm fine with some deadbeat's kids having free health care. Lord knows it isn't the child's fault. I'm also for making adoption much easier than it already is. More of a lack of information problem than anything else.

(08-15-2016 02:19 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Harvard study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/20...-coverage/

That's about how many Americans die in car accidents annually. Oh and way more than the number of Americans who die from terrorism, which Republicans are always freaking out about.

Two of the authors are founders of a group that advocates for a single-payer health care system, so take it with a grain of salt.

45,000 is the upper end of the estimate and this study is widely accepted as an outlier.

(08-15-2016 02:48 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care.

Sick of this stupid line. I'm fine with some deadbeat's kids having free health care. Lord knows it isn't the child's fault. I'm also for making adoption much easier than it already is. More of a lack of information problem than anything else.

+1

I'll add that I am also for having healthcare coverage for the elderly and disabled that cant work .

While its possible there's an enthusiasm gap, I'm becoming a lot more optimistic. DJT isn't making much headway outside of his core base of angry whites (mostly males). And he keeps going back to the same group he already has, using messaging and antics that anger everyone else.

Last week, DJT started off with a speech on the economy. A bad one, with no specifics other than a self serving tax plan that we can't afford, but at least it was something.

Then he went to Wilmington and used the 2nd Amendment speech, and then doubled down on it. Then said he was sarcastic. Then gave another speech where he said, 'not really sarcastic'.

Then he claimed Obama founded ISIS. Then doubled down on it when Hewitt tried to talk him out of it.

Then he claimed that only voter fraud could keep him from winning a state that he's currently behind, by large margins, in a state that hasn't voted for Republican in 28 years.

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What will this week bring?

I think we wait for the tv ads to start running. Then we will know more.

(08-14-2016 02:07 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Hillary Clinton leads by 14 in Colorado, 13 in Virginia, 9 in North Carolina and 5 in Florida, according to a new series of battleground polls from NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist.

With today's result, Virginia moves to Lean Clinton in the electoral map based on polls, putting the Democratic nominee across 270 electoral votes for the first time.

http://www.270towin.com/news/#.V7DAISgrKUk

Right now its zero to zero.

(08-15-2016 02:51 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:48 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care.

Sick of this stupid line. I'm fine with some deadbeat's kids having free health care. Lord knows it isn't the child's fault. I'm also for making adoption much easier than it already is. More of a lack of information problem than anything else.

+1

I'll add that I am also for having healthcare coverage for the elderly and disabled that cant work .

Yes.

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(08-14-2016 02:07 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Hillary Clinton leads by 14 in Colorado, 13 in Virginia, 9 in North Carolina and 5 in Florida, according to a new series of battleground polls from NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist.

With today's result, Virginia moves to Lean Clinton in the electoral map based on polls, putting the Democratic nominee across 270 electoral votes for the first time.

http://www.270towin.com/news/#.V7DAISgrKUk

Fake news at its best.

(08-14-2016 02:07 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Hillary Clinton leads by 14 in Colorado, 13 in Virginia, 9 in North Carolina and 5 in Florida, according to a new series of battleground polls from NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist.

With today's result, Virginia moves to Lean Clinton in the electoral map based on polls, putting the Democratic nominee across 270 electoral votes for the first time.

http://www.270towin.com/news/#.V7DAISgrKUk

Poor guy gets his poll numbers from fake news.

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

Except nobody says that....

(12-11-2016 10:32 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

Except nobody says that....

Yep. Conservatives want to offer aid to the truly, needy, helpless (handicapped, children, elderly) not the lazy and clueless.

(12-11-2016 10:57 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-11-2016 10:32 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(08-15-2016 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It always seems so hypocritical to me when someone says they are pro life until that child needs health care. Then it's. Why should I have to pay it? Why can't they pay for it on their own?

Except nobody says that....

Yep. Conservatives want to offer aid to the truly, needy, helpless (handicapped, children, elderly) not the lazy and clueless.

My thing is this... It's a bull shaq statement when Mach or Bison or one of those lot say "only pro life until born"... Because I would not only keep our current welfare but expand it greatly as a compromise that ended medically unnecessary abortion.

They would not make that compromise... The right to kill babies means more to them than better welfare.