Dayum

(08-14-2016 10:57 AM)Strat57 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 08:05 AM)FantasyRC Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 06:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  No conference is going to 18 schools.

This is the best of the points you made. I envision all of the Power conference getting to 16 teams eventually, but I think 18 teams would be difficult to manage.

Bowlsby has said that in 2025 there maybe as many as 80 to 100 in the p5. While I see 72 in four leagues as better option, 100 is far too many.

Not long after I moved to Tx., I was listening to a local sports guy;Randy Galloway, interview Darrel Royal(rip).
Royal said at the time the plan was to go to 5 conf. of 20 schools.
This was 8 or 9 years ago. Maybe 9 1/2.

Now, admittedly, his was from a Big 12 perspective.
Of course plans change-but, that was the plan.
So, I would imagine that is still a scenario being considered by some.

That's also why you've had schools in Texas step up their sports investments.

I personally believe they need at least 100 schools to keep the nation's interest.

No one cares if Northwestern upsets Cal.

EVERYONE cares when Appy State beats Michigan.

They MUST continue to include that element, or IMO, college sports will one day stagnate if left to just the fans of the larger P5 schools.

Dayum Skippy.

(08-14-2016 01:24 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 02:18 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 02:07 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

No.

Just...

just

no.

Please add some real comments with substance. Otherwise allow the conversation to continue with those who have information or at least substantial rebuttals. It's guys like you who screw up legitimate threads b/c you want to seem cool. Either u don't know anything or you are too lazy to explain your silly one word replies.

Take a stance with something of substance or just read and move along.

You know what? You're right, and I apologize.
It was 2 in the morning, and I didn't have the energy to break down and respond to a post that did not have one legitimate or reasoned point - not one - and thereby exhaust myself when the whole endpoint was going to be to make me the bad guy, no matter how logical and thought-out my response was.
So here we go Pastner (shouldn't you change that to Smith4SecretaryofState or something?) . Here's my response:

Quote:The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

No. Conferences don't take schools to block expansion by other conferences and it's for a clear-cut reason: Either the school they are looking to add brings something to the table or they don't. Besides, media markets are shared nationally and on the local level the Big XII and ACC don't have a common geographical city or state at this point; the ACC is going to not stable enough at this point to add another school; they are going to busy counting up the money from the new ACC network, and so-on and so-on. This is a fundamentally wrong statement.

Quote:the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

No. Adding schools doesn't "protect" anything: In fact, the quickest way to piss off FSU, Clemson, Miami, etc. is to take a slice of their revenue from them and hand it to new conference mates they don't care about, thereby financing brand-new competition for less money.

Quote:The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

No. The schools that are already leading won't want to fix what isn't broken. Bringing in new schools threatens that; it doesn't 'set them up' for anything. The only reason you bring in more schools in such an instance is to bring in more revenue, or you already have an established relationship with, and clearly that isn't going to happen with VT/FSU, etc.

Quote:Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Like I said, that plan runs off the football powers to the other major conferences. Duke and Wake Forest know that they can't water down ACC membership and hope to keep the standard-bearers.

Quote:Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

I'm literally shaking my head by this point....
No.
Bringing in Cincy and Memphis doesn't force ND to do anything. How in God's name would it?
Notre Dame is the only school in the country that has the B1G, Big XII, and Big East all as fallback options - one of those conferences will HAPPILY accept them - and that's after the new ACC contract expires, by the way. So Notre Dame can stay with the ACC on it's own terms, for good or for bad,regardless. So how does your source theorize adding Memphis and Cincy 'forces Notre Dame' to do anything?
Or forces the Big 12, for that matter, since they have said themselves they are looking at 17 potential members? Take two off the table, and Bowlsby is going to go "Eh. Okay. Who else we got?"

I'm not trying to play cool. Honestly. And everybody can say that the SMU guy is just a troll; I'm fine with that.
But there isn't one substantial idea in that entire post.
Not. One.
So if I was short and rude last night, I'm genuinely sorry.
I apologize, Pastner4prez.
But it's difficult to treat something seriously that makes no sense whatsoever, no matter what the source is, and no matter if this story actually happens or not.

(08-14-2016 01:54 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:24 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 02:18 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 02:07 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

No.

Just...

just

no.

Please add some real comments with substance. Otherwise allow the conversation to continue with those who have information or at least substantial rebuttals. It's guys like you who screw up legitimate threads b/c you want to seem cool. Either u don't know anything or you are too lazy to explain your silly one word replies.

Take a stance with something of substance or just read and move along.

You know what? You're right, and I apologize.
It was 2 in the morning, and I didn't have the energy to break down and respond to a post that did not have one legitimate or reasoned point - not one - and thereby exhaust myself when the whole endpoint was going to be to make me the bad guy, no matter how logical and thought-out my response was.
So here we go Pastner (shouldn't you change that to Smith4SecretaryofState or something?) . Here's my response:

Quote:The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

No. Conferences don't take schools to block expansion by other conferences and it's for a clear-cut reason: Either the school they are looking to add brings something to the table or they don't. Besides, media markets are shared nationally and on the local level the Big XII and ACC don't have a common geographical city or state at this point; the ACC is going to not stable enough at this point to add another school; they are going to busy counting up the money from the new ACC network, and so-on and so-on. This is a fundamentally wrong statement.

Quote:the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

No. Adding schools doesn't "protect" anything: In fact, the quickest way to piss off FSU, Clemson, Miami, etc. is to take a slice of their revenue from them and hand it to new conference mates they don't care about, thereby financing brand-new competition for less money.

Quote:The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

No. The schools that are already leading won't want to fix what isn't broken. Bringing in new schools threatens that; it doesn't 'set them up' for anything. The only reason you bring in more schools in such an instance is to bring in more revenue, or you already have an established relationship with, and clearly that isn't going to happen with VT/FSU, etc.

Quote:Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Like I said, that plan runs off the football powers to the other major conferences. Duke and Wake Forest know that they can't water down ACC membership and hope to keep the standard-bearers.

Quote:Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

I'm literally shaking my head by this point....
No.
Bringing in Cincy and Memphis doesn't force ND to do anything. How in God's name would it?
Notre Dame is the only school in the country that has the B1G, Big XII, and Big East all as fallback options - one of those conferences will HAPPILY accept them - and that's after the new ACC contract expires, by the way. So Notre Dame can stay with the ACC on it's own terms, for good or for bad,regardless. So how does your source theorize adding Memphis and Cincy 'forces Notre Dame' to do anything?
Or forces the Big 12, for that matter, since they have said themselves they are looking at 17 potential members? Take two off the table, and Bowlsby is going to go "Eh. Okay. Who else we got?"

I'm not trying to play cool. Honestly. And everybody can say that the SMU guy is just a troll; I'm fine with that.
But there isn't one substantial idea in that entire post.
Not. One.
So if I was short and rude last night, I'm genuinely sorry.
I apologize, Pastner4prez.
But it's difficult to treat something seriously that makes no sense whatsoever, no matter what the source is, and no matter if this story actually happens or not.

This is AWESOME! First, we went to the Big East and it died, and we thought all was lost. Then we had a shot at the B12 and we got excited. Now the B12 and ACC are fighting over us.

I'd still pick B12, even with Louisville in ACC. Duke and UNC and Louisville and the rest would really make ball hard. I can handle Kansas.

Are we in?

Tuesday at high noon on Beale, the BIG12 Commish vs. the ACC Commish in a dual for the right to invite the University of Memphis to their conference.

(08-14-2016 04:43 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Tuesday at high noon on Beale, the BIG12 Commish vs. the ACC Commish in a dual for the right to invite the University of Memphis to their conference.

Hell just have them meet in Jonesboro where all the greats are meeting.

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 10:57 AM)Strat57 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 08:05 AM)FantasyRC Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 06:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  No conference is going to 18 schools.

This is the best of the points you made. I envision all of the Power conference getting to 16 teams eventually, but I think 18 teams would be difficult to manage.

Bowlsby has said that in 2025 there maybe as many as 80 to 100 in the p5. While I see 72 in four leagues as better option, 100 is far too many.

Not long after I moved to Tx., I was listening to a local sports guy;Randy Galloway, interview Darrel Royal(rip).
Royal said at the time the plan was to go to 5 conf. of 20 schools.
This was 8 or 9 years ago. Maybe 9 1/2.

Now, admittedly, his was from a Big 12 perspective.
Of course plans change-but, that was the plan.
So, I would imagine that is still a scenario being considered by some.

That's also why you've had schools in Texas step up their sports investments.

I personally believe they need at least 100 schools to keep the nation's interest.

No one cares if Northwestern upsets Cal.

EVERYONE cares when Appy State beats Michigan.

They MUST continue to include that element, or IMO, college sports will one day stagnate if left to just the fans of the larger P5 schools.

The NFL and NBA seem to do a good job keeping interest with just over 30 teams. Just saying.

I just hope we finally catch a break one day. The best thing that ever happened to UL was the Big XII screwing up and picking WVU over then.

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Smh.

Personally I'd LOVE for this to happen. Would be awesome to have you guys back and it would be fun to show you around the place and watch what you do with the resources.

But what in the world would the ACC have to gain by expanding at this point? It has never been a reactionary conference and has always made calculated and quiet moves. Barring some unforeseen consequence from the B10 expanding again I don't see the reason it would preemptively take anyone right now. It has isolated options on the eastern seaboard that I'm not sure a B12 GOR would protect if the ACC wanted them. I'm 40. It sunk in that I'll be 60 before our GOR expires. That's insane. That's a lifetime in this madness that has been rocking our programs since 1990ish.

With the circus that is the B12 I think the ACC is content to sit and watch. I think there's a better chance of the B12 blowing itself apart in the immediate future than the ACC expanding again.

That said, either of those things happening would probably be good for the Tigers.

(08-14-2016 04:59 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Smh.

Personally I'd LOVE for this to happen. Would be awesome to have you guys back and it would be fun to show you around the place and watch what you do with the resources.

But what in the world would the ACC have to gain by expanding at this point? It has never been a reactionary conference and has always made calculated and quiet moves. Barring some unforeseen consequence from the B10 expanding again I don't see the reason it would preemptively take anyone right now. It has isolated options on the eastern seaboard that I'm not sure a B12 GOR would protect if the ACC wanted them. I'm 40. It sunk in that I'll be 60 before our GOR expires. That's insane. That's a lifetime in this madness that has been rocking our programs since 1990ish.

With the circus that is the B12 I think the ACC is content to sit and watch. I think there's a better chance of the B12 blowing itself apart in the immediate future than the ACC expanding again.

That said, either of those things happening would probably be good for the Tigers.

It's a poster posting what he may have heard. No one is taking it as gospel. It's strange you would think most Memphis fans are gullible enough to fall for everything we hear.

(08-14-2016 05:02 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 04:59 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Smh.

Personally I'd LOVE for this to happen. Would be awesome to have you guys back and it would be fun to show you around the place and watch what you do with the resources.

But what in the world would the ACC have to gain by expanding at this point? It has never been a reactionary conference and has always made calculated and quiet moves. Barring some unforeseen consequence from the B10 expanding again I don't see the reason it would preemptively take anyone right now. It has isolated options on the eastern seaboard that I'm not sure a B12 GOR would protect if the ACC wanted them. I'm 40. It sunk in that I'll be 60 before our GOR expires. That's insane. That's a lifetime in this madness that has been rocking our programs since 1990ish.

With the circus that is the B12 I think the ACC is content to sit and watch. I think there's a better chance of the B12 blowing itself apart in the immediate future than the ACC expanding again.

That said, either of those things happening would probably be good for the Tigers.

It's a poster posting what he may have heard. No one is taking it as gospel. It's strange you would think most Memphis fans are gullible enough to fall for everything we hear.

I don't think that at all. There was another thread I was involved in where someone was shatting on guys like 3601 for being "pessimists" because they think fake insider posts cloud the conversation. When you "hear" something worth posting I assume it's from a legit source or it should be from one. If it's speculation with the garbage man then just say it is or produce valid reasoning for the argument.

I told u Dudes six months ago ACC WANTS US, but u conn is top of their list, be nice if they added Memphis, u conn and cincy. lewisville pushing hard for cincy. The street is telling me lewisville wouldn't mind having Memphis in the ACC.

it's a slow day on the message board

(08-14-2016 05:07 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 05:02 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 04:59 PM)L-yes Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:23 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Has anyone else heard this?

All I can do is pass along what I've heard to be completely legit

The ACC has 15 teams in their hybrid system by including Notre Dame in all sports but football

The conference AD's want to get ahead of the game to block the B12 from taking prospective future colleges they have interest in for the long term.

What I heard is the ACC wants to be the first conference to go to 18 football teams to completely eliminate any chance of other P5 teams growing faster. They see it as a block and forever protect their BCS interests. For ex - If the SEC offers FSU and GT the conference still has enough high level teams and supportive teams good enough not to get "Demoted"

The top tier teams such as VaTech/FSU/Clemson/Miami seem to be very much in favor of expansion because they know they will dominate the conference for the next 5-10 years

The other reason they like the idea is because it sets them up for the "Forever Invite" to the BCS games

Why the lower level ACC teams are somewhat on board is the fear of losing the top 3-4 teams to the SEC, B12, Big 10

Plus I've heard if the ACC goes to 15 football members it virtually forces Notre Dame to BLANK or get it off the pot

The ACC blue bloods have witnessed first hand the Louisville rise and see the long term value of the Louisville, Memphis, Cincy connection.

Hate to say this but UC is the first choice but Memphis is neck and neck due to rising ticket sales and Fedex.

Before the B12 makes an offer the ACC is planning to block taking Memphis and Cincinnati.

Personally, I'm cool with either conference because basketball would be more fun in the ACC but being able to play UT OK every year would be awesome as well.

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Smh.

Personally I'd LOVE for this to happen. Would be awesome to have you guys back and it would be fun to show you around the place and watch what you do with the resources.

But what in the world would the ACC have to gain by expanding at this point? It has never been a reactionary conference and has always made calculated and quiet moves. Barring some unforeseen consequence from the B10 expanding again I don't see the reason it would preemptively take anyone right now. It has isolated options on the eastern seaboard that I'm not sure a B12 GOR would protect if the ACC wanted them. I'm 40. It sunk in that I'll be 60 before our GOR expires. That's insane. That's a lifetime in this madness that has been rocking our programs since 1990ish.

With the circus that is the B12 I think the ACC is content to sit and watch. I think there's a better chance of the B12 blowing itself apart in the immediate future than the ACC expanding again.

That said, either of those things happening would probably be good for the Tigers.

It's a poster posting what he may have heard. No one is taking it as gospel. It's strange you would think most Memphis fans are gullible enough to fall for everything we hear.

I don't think that at all. There was another thread I was involved in where someone was shatting on guys like 3601 for being "pessimists" because they think fake insider posts cloud the conversation. When you "hear" something worth posting I assume it's from a legit source or it should be from one. If it's speculation with the garbage man then just say it is or produce valid reasoning for the argument.

I get what you are saying but it's still a messageboard. Most of everything that's posted here is opinion or hearsay. If everyone waited to post facts, it would be a boring place most of the time especially now during the offseason. Most Memphis fans fortunately are knowledgeable enough to swift thru the BS

What is T.C. saying

(08-14-2016 08:21 AM)Denny Crum Wrote:  Lol you Memphis fans are comic gold.

Here's some more fodder to help you laugh. Now we know why recruits were excited to play for Pitino.

Yawn