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(08-18-2016 01:53 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  And playing boring ass 4 corners basketball used to be a part of the game... so much that they had to make it illegal because it is a terrible way to win the game.

It ABSOLUTELY is a chicken way to win a game and Hope was correct in they way she expressed it. You can call her names all you want, which is the ONLY thing worthy of condemnation, but she only said what every soccer purist says about that way of winning the game.

None of that matters, they played within the confines of the rules. They did not cheat to win. They simply played the strategy that best suited their team. Someone may inform Hope that is her team's job to dictate the strategy that best fits her team, not the other team's job.

This would be akin to the USA Men's basketball team calling the other countries cowards because they foul every time a fast break is about to occur or run the shot clock down as often as they can to limit the amount of possessions in a game. If it is within the rules then it is simply strategy.
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(08-23-2016 07:50 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 01:53 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  And playing boring ass 4 corners basketball used to be a part of the game... so much that they had to make it illegal because it is a terrible way to win the game.

It ABSOLUTELY is a chicken way to win a game and Hope was correct in they way she expressed it. You can call her names all you want, which is the ONLY thing worthy of condemnation, but she only said what every soccer purist says about that way of winning the game.

None of that matters, they played within the confines of the rules. They did not cheat to win. They simply played the strategy that best suited their team. Someone may inform Hope that is her team's job to dictate the strategy that best fits her team, not the other team's job.

This would be akin to the USA Men's basketball team calling the other countries cowards because they foul every time a fast break is about to occur or run the shot clock down as often as they can to limit the amount of possessions in a game. If it is within the rules then it is simply strategy.

Solo didn't call her cheaters, iirc. She called them cowards. Not the same, right?
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You guys have ZERO reading comprehension skills. I never commented on the style they played, whether it was a good strategy or not, or even if she was correct.

It is hypocritical BS to single out Solo as some type of disgrace when she echoed the exact sentiment of nearly a dozen soccer "experts" at the Euros that complained how Portugal won. Was it about the only strategy they could've employed in a chance to win, absolutely. Is it a "cowards" way to win, yeah... if you are a soccer purist that loves the game.
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(08-24-2016 12:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You guys have ZERO reading comprehension skills. I never commented on the style they played, whether it was a good strategy or not, or even if she was correct.

It is hypocritical BS to single out Solo as some type of disgrace when she echoed the exact sentiment of nearly a dozen soccer "experts" at the Euros that complained how Portugal won. Was it about the only strategy they could've employed in a chance to win, absolutely. Is it a "cowards" way to win, yeah... if you are a soccer purist that loves the game.

It ABSOLUTELY is a chicken way to win a game and Hope was correct in the way she expressed it.

Ya, we clearly have zero reading comprehension skills...
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(08-24-2016 12:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You guys have ZERO reading comprehension skills. I never commented on the style they played, whether it was a good strategy or not, or even if she was correct.

It is hypocritical BS to single out Solo as some type of disgrace when she echoed the exact sentiment of nearly a dozen soccer "experts" at the Euros that complained how Portugal won. Was it about the only strategy they could've employed in a chance to win, absolutely. Is it a "cowards" way to win, yeah... if you are a soccer purist that loves the game.

Those soccer experts were not on the field and got beat by that style of play. When you get beat and come out with that crap then it is different from a bunch of experts talking.
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(08-13-2016 06:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  I expected more from her than what she did. Sweden chose the only strategy they could play to stay in the game and it worked. But instead of congratulating them for their game plan Solo chose to be a sore loser.

We still on this faux outrage of the day?

Sweden managed just 2 shots during the game...because they played a very, very, VERY conservative style hoping to get the game into Penalty Kicks.

6 month suspend and cancellation of her contract over her calling another team "cowards"?

Wow!!!

I think men soccer players say worse things every 5 mins and none are suspended for 6 months, let alone 6 mins.
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(08-25-2016 05:24 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(08-13-2016 06:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  I expected more from her than what she did. Sweden chose the only strategy they could play to stay in the game and it worked. But instead of congratulating them for their game plan Solo chose to be a sore loser.

We still on this faux outrage of the day?

Sweden managed just 2 shots during the game...because they played a very, very, VERY conservative style hoping to get the game into Penalty Kicks.

6 month suspend and cancellation of her contract over her calling another team "cowards"?

Wow!!!

I think men soccer players say worse things every 5 mins and none are suspended for 6 months, let alone 6 mins.

Show me a time when a male player on the US team said something similar or worse during a similar situation. We had several US Olympians who embarrassed the US with their actions and all are playing for it male and female.

BTW Sweden came home with the Silver losing 1-2 in finals
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You would be surprised how many youth coaches teach Sweden's strategy in the US. And parents go along with it. Until they go a couple of years without winning a tournament game. Then they go away.
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(08-25-2016 05:24 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(08-13-2016 06:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  I expected more from her than what she did. Sweden chose the only strategy they could play to stay in the game and it worked. But instead of congratulating them for their game plan Solo chose to be a sore loser.

We still on this faux outrage of the day?

Sweden managed just 2 shots during the game...because they played a very, very, VERY conservative style hoping to get the game into Penalty Kicks.

6 month suspend and cancellation of her contract over her calling another team "cowards"?

Wow!!!

I think men soccer players say worse things every 5 mins and none are suspended for 6 months, let alone 6 mins.

So Draymond Green (in the last three months) nut kicks guys during the playoffs to the point of getting suspended, calls the games most recognizable player a "B!tch" on national tv, puts d!ick pics on snapchat, and assaults a college kid at a bar and he plays for the US Olympic team and doesn't lose one endorsement?
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(08-19-2016 02:12 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:21 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Wait, the EXACT same thing was said with the way Portugal won the Euros. It was a crappy way to win if you actually like the sport of soccer. She just echoed what almost EVERY commentator of the Euros said.

It is the equivilant of playing four corners in basketball and winning 19-16. The game sucks and is boring, but if that's the ONLY way you can win... that's exactly what you do.

That is part of the game. Just like when the Rogues took advantage of the narrow pitch when they defeat the Cosmos. You play to your strengths. As it was Solo had a bad game in the goal as Sweden only had 6 shots for the game and only 2 on goal.

I was at that game. One of the Cosmos players has been a coach in Memphis for years.

Are you talking about coach Toni Cabognani
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(08-26-2016 09:16 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 02:12 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:21 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Wait, the EXACT same thing was said with the way Portugal won the Euros. It was a crappy way to win if you actually like the sport of soccer. She just echoed what almost EVERY commentator of the Euros said.

It is the equivilant of playing four corners in basketball and winning 19-16. The game sucks and is boring, but if that's the ONLY way you can win... that's exactly what you do.

That is part of the game. Just like when the Rogues took advantage of the narrow pitch when they defeat the Cosmos. You play to your strengths. As it was Solo had a bad game in the goal as Sweden only had 6 shots for the game and only 2 on goal.

I was at that game. One of the Cosmos players has been a coach in Memphis for years.

Are you talking about coach Toni Cabognani

Yup. His English hasn't improved a bit since then. I can't understand a word.
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(08-26-2016 11:27 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-26-2016 09:16 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 02:12 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:21 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Wait, the EXACT same thing was said with the way Portugal won the Euros. It was a crappy way to win if you actually like the sport of soccer. She just echoed what almost EVERY commentator of the Euros said.

It is the equivilant of playing four corners in basketball and winning 19-16. The game sucks and is boring, but if that's the ONLY way you can win... that's exactly what you do.

That is part of the game. Just like when the Rogues took advantage of the narrow pitch when they defeat the Cosmos. You play to your strengths. As it was Solo had a bad game in the goal as Sweden only had 6 shots for the game and only 2 on goal.

I was at that game. One of the Cosmos players has been a coach in Memphis for years.

Are you talking about coach Toni Cabognani

Yup. His English hasn't improved a bit since then. I can't understand a word.

11,223 actually showed up for the game. Around the break even point for the average attendance.

[Image: 78memrou-cosmos-5-24.png]


Wonder if a another version of the Rogue could compete and survive in today's version of the NASL. It is Div II soccer so not so much cost involved in players salary. With the large increase of immigrants would be inter4esting. I know the Kingsbury soccer team only spoke Spanish to each other on the field..
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(08-26-2016 11:27 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-26-2016 09:16 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 02:12 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:21 AM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Wait, the EXACT same thing was said with the way Portugal won the Euros. It was a crappy way to win if you actually like the sport of soccer. She just echoed what almost EVERY commentator of the Euros said.

It is the equivilant of playing four corners in basketball and winning 19-16. The game sucks and is boring, but if that's the ONLY way you can win... that's exactly what you do.

That is part of the game. Just like when the Rogues took advantage of the narrow pitch when they defeat the Cosmos. You play to your strengths. As it was Solo had a bad game in the goal as Sweden only had 6 shots for the game and only 2 on goal.

I was at that game. One of the Cosmos players has been a coach in Memphis for years.

Are you talking about coach Toni Cabognani

Yup. His English hasn't improved a bit since then. I can't understand a word.

He coaches my son at Midsouth Futbol Club. Great guy, although I have to have my son translate sometimes.
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- North American Soccer League - 1978 →

Wednesday, May 24, 1978

Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium

attendance: 11222

Memphis Rogues 1 ( 2-1-8) Goals Tony Field

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Paul D'Agostino 0 90
David Stride 0 90
Bobby Thomson 0 90
Phil Holder 0 90
Neil Smillie 0 90
Phil Beal 0 90
Henry McCully 0 90
Tony Field 1 90
Jimmy Husband 0 90
John Faulkner 0 90
John Houska 0 90



Cosmos 0 (8-1-1)

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Steve Hunt 0 90
Nelsi Morais 0 90
Dennis Tueart 0 90
Vitomir Dimitrijevic 0 90
Werner Roth 0 90
Carlos Alberto 0 90
Giorgio Chinaglia 0 90
Bobby Smith 0 90
Vladislav Bogicevic 0 90
Santiago Formoso 0 90
Ricky Davis 0
Gary Etherington 0
Fred Grgurev 0
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Y'all just know figuring out that soccer is boring as hell?
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(08-25-2016 05:07 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  
(08-24-2016 12:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You guys have ZERO reading comprehension skills. I never commented on the style they played, whether it was a good strategy or not, or even if she was correct.

It is hypocritical BS to single out Solo as some type of disgrace when she echoed the exact sentiment of nearly a dozen soccer "experts" at the Euros that complained how Portugal won. Was it about the only strategy they could've employed in a chance to win, absolutely. Is it a "cowards" way to win, yeah... if you are a soccer purist that loves the game.

It ABSOLUTELY is a chicken way to win a game and Hope was correct in the way she expressed it.

Ya, we clearly have zero reading comprehension skills...

If you would've said that instead of making up stupid excuses to validate your side, you wouldnt be included in my statement.
But since I am talking mostly about the one that denies what is clearly said and makes irrelevant counter points that have nothing to do with what was expressed, I guess you at least get somewhat of a pass.
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(08-28-2016 09:05 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Y'all just know figuring out that soccer is boring as hell?

Appeals to a more intellectual mindset.

Sitting low on side lines it does look boring. Sitting in the crows nest you can see it more entertaining.
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(08-26-2016 05:54 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(08-26-2016 11:27 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-26-2016 09:16 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 02:12 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  
(08-18-2016 12:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  That is part of the game. Just like when the Rogues took advantage of the narrow pitch when they defeat the Cosmos. You play to your strengths. As it was Solo had a bad game in the goal as Sweden only had 6 shots for the game and only 2 on goal.

I was at that game. One of the Cosmos players has been a coach in Memphis for years.

Are you talking about coach Toni Cabognani

Yup. His English hasn't improved a bit since then. I can't understand a word.

He coaches my son at Midsouth Futbol Club. Great guy, although I have to have my son translate sometimes.

My son played for Memphis Futbol Club for 9 years--5 or 6 under Richard. Toni was at Fury for most of those years. Those drives to Dallas, Austin, Tampa, OKC, Atlanta and Charlotte used to clear my head. Then the flights to LA and Europe used to clear my wallet.
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