If Cincy and Houston are the two chosen (most likely as of now), UConn/Memphis should give AAC an ultimatum: let us join the Big East in non-football sports, keep our Tier 3 money for ourselves, and keep football in AAC. Here's why the AAC should play ball. Both UConn and Memphis have more football brand and brand overall than the likely 3rd and 4th picks for the AAC after replacing the Big 12 bound schools. The Big East would likely sign up as CR won't begin for about eight years, during which time the BE schools can benefit from UConn and Memphis being in the contract.

I see why you have a -14 rep. What part of the "Big East is not going to deal with universities with a FBS program" you don't understand? Not even UConn with all of their basketball championships.

(08-12-2016 05:55 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  If Cincy and Houston are the two chosen (most likely as of now), UConn/Memphis should give AAC an ultimatum: let us join the Big East in non-football sports, keep our Tier 3 money for ourselves, and keep football in AAC. Here's why the AAC should play ball. Both UConn and Memphis have more football brand and brand overall than the likely 3rd and 4th picks for the AAC after replacing the Big 12 bound schools. The Big East would likely sign up as CR won't begin for about eight years, during which time the BE schools can benefit from UConn and Memphis being in the contract.

Ehhh. Not much in it for the AAC.

The remaining AAC teams might just decide they would be better off letting two of thier potential competitors in future conference realignment languish in Indy obscurity while building a best of the rest AAC league that consistently sends teams to a NYD Bowl and enjoys a high visibility ESPN tv deal.

I think the deal to be struck is to have schools retain thier 3rd tier rights in the next AAC contract---which is just a few years away. That would help UConn cash in on those rights next time around.

LOL

(08-12-2016 06:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  I see why you have a -14 rep. What part of the "Big East is not going to deal with universities with a FBS program" you don't understand? Not even UConn with all of their basketball championships.

If UConn wants in, the BE won't deny a chance to at least salvage their next contract.

If the AAC could replace (hypothetically) Houston and Cincinnati with an Army (football-only) and VCU and Wichita State (non-football), the basketball side could remain strong and the drop-off in football isn't as substantial as losing three or four schools. Maintaining UCF, USF, Temple, Memphis, ECU and UConn in football can still compete for a NY6 Bowl-spot.

UConn, more so than any other school, have been kicked below the belt more times than I can count in realignment. Giving up now and throwing in the towel (moving non-football in the Big East) would only make the blow worse, IMO. Stay the course.

I don't think the fate of Memphis has any linkage to Memphis State.

The preliminary conversations from reporters about UConn and the Big East only concerns just that, UConn and the Big East.

Many UConn fans want back in the Big East. What has prevented that is the fate of the football team.

If two of UCF, Cincinnati, Memphis,Temple, USF, and Houston leave, then the AAC contract is terminated.

Based on what CUSA and the MWC get, the depleted AAC would probably get less than $1 million a year, down from $1.8 million.

At that level, UConn knows that it could make substantially more by negotiating it's own TV deal. I think that that is a real possibility.

But I think that the original Lister's outside the box thinking is what many of these schools are going to be doing.

Solid additions like Middle Tenn., N Illinois, GA State notwithstanding, the AAC will be hit with massive perception problems.

Basically after this (most likely last) round of realignment, it will be hard to argue that there are any P5 level schools left in the G5.

While it is a cruel fate, if UConn is again picked over, that would mean the ACC snubbed them for Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt, the Big Ten for Rutgers and Maryland, the Big 12 for whatever schools to be determined.

Basically the P5 doesn't want UConn.

Interestingly, there is a poster on the UConn fan site that claims that the UConn president is disliked by lots of other higher ups at schools. While I'm sure that might be other things why UConn is hated, the dislike of presidents etc against the UConn president might be an issue that it's fans need to look at.

Houston is not a lock. The non-Texas schools do not want Houston in. Oklahoma State gets most of their recruits from the Houston area. Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State and Oklahoma gets most of their recruits from Texas as well. They compete against 4 Texas schools already in the conference. They do not want a 5th which could weaken the Big 12 as a whole.

UConn should keep trying with the ACC and B1G...

IMO the ACC should grab UConn

(08-12-2016 05:55 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  If Cincy and Houston are the two chosen (most likely as of now), UConn/Memphis should give AAC an ultimatum: let us join the Big East in non-football sports, keep our Tier 3 money for ourselves, and keep football in AAC. Here's why the AAC should play ball. Both UConn and Memphis have more football brand and brand overall than the likely 3rd and 4th picks for the AAC after replacing the Big 12 bound schools. The Big East would likely sign up as CR won't begin for about eight years, during which time the BE schools can benefit from UConn and Memphis being in the contract.

Hopefully that meeting with Aresco would go something like this

Even though ESPN could terminate the AAC deal if two of Group A depart, they won't because it still offers great value for viewership.

It's a cruel hand of fate, but the AAC should have received more when they got their new TV deal, and probably should get paid even more now (today) due to their success in football - however, they got a very low $$$ deal at the start, and after potentially losing two members, still won't get very high due to the weakened product of the departures.

as long as there is even the slightest chance of the B1G or the ACC expanding, UConn wil hold out

(08-12-2016 07:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  as long as there is even the slightest chance of the B1G or the ACC expanding, UConn wil hold out

The ACC doesn't want UConn.That much is clear. Whatever the reason.

Besides, with Navy's special relationship with Notre Dame, if the ACC ever decides to take a 16th (if, and a big IF, ND joins full time), Navy will get the call.

And if not Navy, then Temple which is building a gorgeous on campus stadium, and is located in the huge Philadelphia market, would be next.

As far as the Big Ten, Rutgers solidifies and captures enough of the Northeast. Once they get things rolling, they will surpass UConn in basketball and other sports.

As they should. Lotsa Kansas fans think they got a shot at the B1G. Not much difference between Kansas and UConn in my mind except Kansas already in.

(08-12-2016 08:20 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 07:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  as long as there is even the slightest chance of the B1G or the ACC expanding, UConn wil hold out

The ACC doesn't want UConn.That much is clear. Whatever the reason.

Besides, with Navy's special relationship with Notre Dame, if the ACC ever decides to take a 16th (if, and a big IF, ND joins full time), Navy will get the call.

And if not Navy, then Temple which is building a gorgeous on campus stadium, and is located in the huge Philadelphia market, would be next.

As far as the Big Ten, Rutgers solidifies and captures enough of the Northeast. Once they get things rolling, they will surpass UConn in basketball and other sports.

Did you really just post that Rutgers will surpass UCONN in Basketball?

(08-12-2016 08:23 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Did you really just post that Rutgers will surpass UCONN in Basketball?

Rutgers is going to earn North of $50 million a year more in TV revenue.

So yes, Rutgers will surpass UConn in basketball. The gap between the majors and mid-majors is going to be colossal. The system is rigged.

(08-12-2016 08:36 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 08:23 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Did you really just post that Rutgers will surpass UCONN in Basketball?

Rutgers is going to earn North of $50 million a year more in TV revenue.

So yes, Rutgers will surpass UConn in basketball. The gap between the majors and mid-majors is going to be colossal. The system is rigged.

Don't you think the priority for Rutgers is going to be to pay off their massive athletic debts with that $50 million?

Then it will be to keep up with the joneses in the B1G...70K-80K stadium.

If we lose Houston and Cincy, the right 2 western teams could keep things ok. Fox exposed ESPN'S well kept secret that the AAC much more valuable than perceived. Aresco should be having back door communication's with fox since they's shown themselves to be very interested in eastern markets and ratings. Afa and csu or boise or even a downtrodden byu could still garner 12-14 mil per team. This situation may present the most leverage the AAC could have ever dreamed of. These negotiations have proven to the other networks that the AAC is the last decent ratings producing league left. Hello fox,NBC maybe even CBS.

(08-12-2016 06:47 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 05:55 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  If Cincy and Houston are the two chosen (most likely as of now), UConn/Memphis should give AAC an ultimatum: let us join the Big East in non-football sports, keep our Tier 3 money for ourselves, and keep football in AAC. Here's why the AAC should play ball. Both UConn and Memphis have more football brand and brand overall than the likely 3rd and 4th picks for the AAC after replacing the Big 12 bound schools. The Big East would likely sign up as CR won't begin for about eight years, during which time the BE schools can benefit from UConn and Memphis being in the contract.

Hopefully that meeting with Aresco would go something like this

Yup.

He's done it before

(08-12-2016 08:36 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 08:23 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Did you really just post that Rutgers will surpass UCONN in Basketball?

Rutgers is going to earn North of $50 million a year more in TV revenue.

So yes, Rutgers will surpass UConn in basketball. The gap between the majors and mid-majors is going to be colossal. The system is rigged.

Ah, so why hasn't Wake, Purdue, BC, and all of the other bottom feeding contract conference teams passed UCONN in basketball? Your theory holds no water pal.