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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:22 AM)Pony94 Wrote: @ChuckCarltonDMN 2m2 minutes ago
Told 12 is a safe middle ground and means that Big 12 feels reasonably confident about its future and possible new media interest come 2024.
Chuck Carlton @ChuckCarltonDMN · 2m2 minutes ago
Why all the presentations? Told Big 12 feels if school expressed interest, deserves chance to make a case. Could help schools on bubble.
Chuck Carlton @ChuckCarltonDMN · 8m8 minutes ago
Not expanding would be a PR disaster after public announcement. Only reasons not to: if huge TV extension in works or lack of consensus.
Chuck Carlton @ChuckCarltonDMN · 12m12 minutes ago
Told that 12 or 14 both remain options for conference, zero far less likely. Fourteen means more $$$$, bigger footprint, more stability.
Chuck Carlton @ChuckCarltonDMN · 18m18 minutes ago
Video presentations by schools to Big 12's Bob Bowlsby should run a couple of hours each. Told at least 14 schools. ESPN reported 17 today.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
#DatChicagoDMAYo
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
Sorry, who is reporting that NIU is now one of the teams making a presentation?
And no, they weren't specially invited by the B12. None of the schools were. The B12 basically made a public cattle call to anyone that wanted to apply. Tulsa could've applied, and at this point would probably get the same Skype interview.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
@BDavisAAS 3m3 minutes ago
The Big 12's biggest expansion winner so far? Skype.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
By the way: who the heck is Chuck Carlton??
EDIT: thanks Google, he's the Big 12 beat writer for the Dallas Morning News. OK -- that's legit!
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:39 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Sorry, who is reporting that NIU is now one of the teams making a presentation?
And no, they weren't specially invited by the B12. None of the schools were. The B12 basically made a public cattle call to anyone that wanted to apply. Tulsa could've applied, and at this point would probably get the same Skype interview.
ESPN. Read the article in the first post man...
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
Stay Cool,
You are absolutely correct. I was absolutely wrong.
Thanks
Nonetheless, for all intents and purposes -- NDSU could've applied and Bowlsby probably would give them a Skype interview too.
Iowa St probably gets higher viewership in Chicago than NIU. No offense ...
(This post was last modified: 08-12-2016 10:47 AM by MplsBison.)
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)MplsBison Wrote: By the way: who the heck is Chuck Carlton??
EDIT: thanks Google, he's the Big 12 beat writer for the Dallas Morning News. OK -- that's legit!
Known him for years - no rumors from Chuck and he has direct access
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote: OK St head coach Gundy makes comments against Houston: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...b5c47.html
Oh weird, a B12 school outside Texas -- that heavily recruits Texas -- coming out against adding another Texas school???? Never saw that one coming.
Does anyone happen to know if he is male or not? Also his age, and whether or not we can make fun of him instead of athletes
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:46 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Stay Cool,
You are absolutely correct. I was absolutely wrong.
Thanks
Nonetheless, for all intents and purposes -- NDSU could've applied and Bowlsby probably would give them a Skype interview too.
Iowa St probably gets higher viewership in Chicago than NIU. No offense ...
This is false. But if it was true, another good thing to pitch. But again...this is false.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:54 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote: (08-12-2016 10:46 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Stay Cool,
You are absolutely correct. I was absolutely wrong.
Thanks
Nonetheless, for all intents and purposes -- NDSU could've applied and Bowlsby probably would give them a Skype interview too.
Iowa St probably gets higher viewership in Chicago than NIU. No offense ...
This is false. But if it was true, another good thing to pitch. But again...this is false.
*sigh* they're gonna make us go get the numbers, aren't they?
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:55 AM)Stay Cool Wrote: (08-12-2016 10:54 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote: (08-12-2016 10:46 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Stay Cool,
You are absolutely correct. I was absolutely wrong.
Thanks
Nonetheless, for all intents and purposes -- NDSU could've applied and Bowlsby probably would give them a Skype interview too.
Iowa St probably gets higher viewership in Chicago than NIU. No offense ...
This is false. But if it was true, another good thing to pitch. But again...this is false.
*sigh* they're gonna make us go get the numbers, aren't they?
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hahaha I don't even need to get numbers for this. But they can believe what they want to.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
My apologies. Please don't get the thread closed for making it "another NIU pissing contest".
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:59 AM)MplsBison Wrote: My apologies. Please don't get the thread closed for making it "another NIU pissing contest".
I so rarely comment on this board. But come on man, NDSU probably gets more viewers in Chicago that Iowa State does. You ever meet anyone from Iowa State? I've met two (and I live in Chicago), and one didn't watch football and the other rooted for Iowa.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
Well, if ESPN and Fox want to cut expenses to off set the B12 expansion, they can kill the AAC! How? By adding six(6) AAC schools:
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Houston
Memphis
Temple or South Florida or East Carolina
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:01 AM)Bill Marsh Wrote: (08-12-2016 09:32 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote: (08-12-2016 09:21 AM)TopperCard Wrote: (08-12-2016 08:55 AM)a cat but also a bear Wrote: But the Cincinnati 247 site seems convinced we are already in and have essentially been invited.
I think Cincy has already been assured a spot and they know it, which is why they've been so quiet lately. It may just be Ono leaving, but the Cincy camp had previously been quite vocal in selling themselves as the best available school. That has ceased from what I can tell, which tells me they've been told to just sit back and relax.
This is just my opinion, could be wrong. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the B12 stay at 10 and all of this be a 100% money grabbing, negotiating play, at the expense of G5 schools' dreams.
It would actually be hilarious if after all this drama if the Big12 simply successfully shakes down the networks for more money to stay at 10.
My guess is the compromise in all of this will be to simply add 2 schools. If BYU is in the mix then probably BYU and UC, if the Big12 does not think BYU passes the smell test then UC and Houston.
The response of the networks to the proposed expansion throws a whole new wrinkle into this. If expansion moves forward, as it likely will, I expect that the networks will pick the new members or they will refuse to pony up any new money.
The networks care about markets and not much of anything else. Houston is far and away the best market of any of the proposed candidates with a population of 6.6 million. But a network has to ask how much of that market Houston will actually bring.
1. A&M already has a big chunk of that market.
2. There is already NFL competition in that market.
3. Texas already brings some of that market to the Big XII with its alums who live there.
So what is Houston really adding?
I also have to question whether the networks will view Cincinnati with the same enthusiasm that the Big XII has. The networks really don't care about a bridge to West Virginia. Cincy doesn't bring Ohio; OSU already has that locked up. Cincy brings a corner of Ohio with a population of about 2.1 million, and a corner that has NFL competition to deal with. Compare that to USF with a population almost 50% greater (3 mill) or UConn with a population of 3.7 million and no instate competition from either college or pro. I have a feeling that the networks will like either of them better and won't care about the travel distance to Connecticut. And they won't be bullied by Texas either.
Fox isn't in Houston so why do they care about any of those properties that they don't own?
There is NFL competition in these markets that have P5 teams. Wisconsin, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Atlanta, Nashville, Chicago, New York (Twice), Pittsburgh, Oakland, San Francisco, Boston, Charolette, Miami, Cleveland, Dallas, Arizona, Seattle, Minnesota, Detroit, Kansas City, Denver, Baltimore. So every city except Cincinnati, San Diego and Jacksonville pretty much.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
Offset expenses? Seriously? The entire AAC makes less than one B12 school. That's not going to help - nice try though.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 08:44 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Big 12 finally starting to realize that basically all of the candidates aren't home run picks.
Two-thirds of the schools currently in the P5 aren't home run picks, either.
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RE: Big 12 to interview 17 schools about expansion, sources say
(08-12-2016 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote: OK St head coach Gundy makes comments against Houston: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/os...b5c47.html
Oh weird, a B12 school outside Texas -- that heavily recruits Texas -- coming out against adding another Texas school???? Never saw that one coming.
Gundy prolly has more reason to be concerned about Houston than any other school in the conference. Reason being if the XII goes to North/South divisions, the addition of Houston moves oSu to the northern division.
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