(08-11-2016 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:01 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 06:00 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Her supporters do not care. They just don't.

Of course, Trump's don't care about his lunacy either.

Helluva mess, America.

So they should care about a unfounded conspiracy theory before it has one shred of proof?

C'mon man.

You mean like "Russia hacked us because Trump is a Kremlin agent!"? They picked that one up and sprinted with it.

Who is they? And do you have a link to anyone here saying "Trump is a Kremlin agent?" On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Russia was behind the hack.

Quote:News of the hack of the Democratic National Committee first broke in mid-June. That’s when Crowdstrike, a firm that analyzes threats to network security, revealed that the DNC had called it in to inspect the party’s servers, where it found “two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network.” Crowdstrike released a comprehensive report of its findings on June 14, which accompanied a Washington Post article detailing the attacks. One of the hacking groups, Crowdstrike found, had access to the DNC servers for almost a year.

Here’s What We Know About Russia and the DNC Hack

I'll go there. Trump's campaign is run, exclusively by a group of hard care Putin acolytes (Page, Manafort, Flynn). And the community of hard core Putin acolytes in the USA is extremely small.

Trump has publically slobbered, repeatedly, his praise for Putin.

Trump, or his campaign, have repeatedly, issued policy statements and platform interventions that can only be seen as helpful to Russia and harmful to US interests.

Another Putin acolyte, Roger Stone, is in public contact with Julian Assaunge (a de facto agent of Putin).

Assaunge is actively helping Trump.

Trump publicly called on Russia to help his campaign.

Russia actively meddles in democratic regimes' elections.

Trump has financial ties to Russia and its oligarchs but will not disclose the extent of those ties.

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There are any number of red flags. Lots of them. And at no time, since Putin gained control over the Trump campaign has Trump made any move or statement to condemn Putin or to even stand with the US against Putin's policies. Even in the face of massive pushback from Republicans and in the face of demonstrable damage to his campaign.

But the GOP is the party of conspiracy theories right?

Tom just officially swallowed the crazy pill

Trump is KGB? LOL that's a good one.

(08-11-2016 12:38 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Tom just officially swallowed the crazy pill

His tinfoil hat weighs in at just over 800 lbs.

(08-10-2016 03:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The guy was killed 12 days before the stuff was leaked.

You don't when the leak happened Tom, no phucking idea. We know when wikileaks dumped the emails, but not when the emails were leaked to them.

(08-11-2016 02:04 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 03:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The guy was killed 12 days before the stuff was leaked.

You don't when the leak happened Tom, no phucking idea. We know when wikileaks dumped the emails, but not when the emails were leaked to them.

Right. I never said otherwise.

Assange and the Russians are trying to compromise American resolve in our electoral process.

(08-11-2016 02:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 12:38 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Tom just officially swallowed the crazy pill

His tinfoil hat weighs in at just over 800 lbs.

Just like I stood by concerns in June, I stand by them now. And I have a lot of National Security/Defense experts, and many Republicans asking the same questions as well.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...atic-hacks

Guys, I'm a patriotic American. I'm not letting Putin pick my President.

The day after Assange made the implication against Hillary, Bob Beckel wants him assassinated. Why?

Bob Beckel is dead to me.

(08-11-2016 02:32 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  The day after Assange made the implication against Hillary, Bob Beckel wants him assassinated. Why?

Thats how ya' do it, son. 2 in the back at close range works apparently.

How did Hillary mastermind this murder and also do the Orlando shooting? Does this lady ever sleep?

(08-11-2016 12:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:01 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 06:00 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Her supporters do not care. They just don't.

Of course, Trump's don't care about his lunacy either.

Helluva mess, America.

So they should care about a unfounded conspiracy theory before it has one shred of proof?

C'mon man.

You mean like "Russia hacked us because Trump is a Kremlin agent!"? They picked that one up and sprinted with it.

Who is they? And do you have a link to anyone here saying "Trump is a Kremlin agent?" On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Russia was behind the hack.

Quote:News of the hack of the Democratic National Committee first broke in mid-June. That’s when Crowdstrike, a firm that analyzes threats to network security, revealed that the DNC had called it in to inspect the party’s servers, where it found “two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network.” Crowdstrike released a comprehensive report of its findings on June 14, which accompanied a Washington Post article detailing the attacks. One of the hacking groups, Crowdstrike found, had access to the DNC servers for almost a year.

Here’s What We Know About Russia and the DNC Hack

I'll go there. Trump's campaign is run, exclusively by a group of hard care Putin acolytes (Page, Manafort, Flynn). And the community of hard core Putin acolytes in the USA is extremely small.

Trump has publically slobbered, repeatedly, his praise for Putin.

Trump, or his campaign, have repeatedly, issued policy statements and platform interventions that can only be seen as helpful to Russia and harmful to US interests.

Another Putin acolyte, Roger Stone, is in public contact with Julian Assaunge (a de facto agent of Putin).

Assaunge is actively helping Trump.

Trump publicly called on Russia to help his campaign.

Russia actively meddles in democratic regimes' elections.

Trump has financial ties to Russia and its oligarchs but will not disclose the extent of those ties.

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There are any number of red flags. Lots of them. And at no time, since Putin gained control over the Trump campaign has Trump made any move or statement to condemn Putin or to even stand with the US against Putin's policies. Even in the face of massive pushback from Republicans and in the face of demonstrable damage to his campaign.

Trump = A Communist

Putin was a former KGB agent in the Communist Russia. Trump praised him, the Chinese leaders for mowing down the protesters and praised the dictators from North Korea including the latest. I am afraid he will have his enemies be taken away and shot and killed, then fed to the dogs. He does have a hit list I can think of and that they are Democrats and Republicans including Ted Cruz. There was a threat from Manafort that Cruz's political career is over, and he should not run for President ever again.

(08-11-2016 04:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 12:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:01 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 08:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So they should care about a unfounded conspiracy theory before it has one shred of proof?

C'mon man.

You mean like "Russia hacked us because Trump is a Kremlin agent!"? They picked that one up and sprinted with it.

Who is they? And do you have a link to anyone here saying "Trump is a Kremlin agent?" On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Russia was behind the hack.

Quote:News of the hack of the Democratic National Committee first broke in mid-June. That’s when Crowdstrike, a firm that analyzes threats to network security, revealed that the DNC had called it in to inspect the party’s servers, where it found “two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network.” Crowdstrike released a comprehensive report of its findings on June 14, which accompanied a Washington Post article detailing the attacks. One of the hacking groups, Crowdstrike found, had access to the DNC servers for almost a year.

Here’s What We Know About Russia and the DNC Hack

I'll go there. Trump's campaign is run, exclusively by a group of hard care Putin acolytes (Page, Manafort, Flynn). And the community of hard core Putin acolytes in the USA is extremely small.

Trump has publically slobbered, repeatedly, his praise for Putin.

Trump, or his campaign, have repeatedly, issued policy statements and platform interventions that can only be seen as helpful to Russia and harmful to US interests.

Another Putin acolyte, Roger Stone, is in public contact with Julian Assaunge (a de facto agent of Putin).

Assaunge is actively helping Trump.

Trump publicly called on Russia to help his campaign.

Russia actively meddles in democratic regimes' elections.

Trump has financial ties to Russia and its oligarchs but will not disclose the extent of those ties.

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There are any number of red flags. Lots of them. And at no time, since Putin gained control over the Trump campaign has Trump made any move or statement to condemn Putin or to even stand with the US against Putin's policies. Even in the face of massive pushback from Republicans and in the face of demonstrable damage to his campaign.

Trump = A Communist

Putin was a former KGB agent in the Communist Russia. Trump praised him, the Chinese leaders for mowing down the protesters and praised the dictators from North Korea including the latest. I am afraid he will have put be taken away and shot and killed, then fed to the dogs. He does have a hit list I can think of and that they are Democrats and Republicans including Ted Cruz. There was a threat from Manafort that Cruz's political career is over, and he should not run for President ever again.

Congrats. You just joined The Lazybrook Tinfoil Hat Party.

(08-11-2016 04:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 04:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 12:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 09:01 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  You mean like "Russia hacked us because Trump is a Kremlin agent!"? They picked that one up and sprinted with it.

Who is they? And do you have a link to anyone here saying "Trump is a Kremlin agent?" On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that Russia was behind the hack.

Quote:News of the hack of the Democratic National Committee first broke in mid-June. That’s when Crowdstrike, a firm that analyzes threats to network security, revealed that the DNC had called it in to inspect the party’s servers, where it found “two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network.” Crowdstrike released a comprehensive report of its findings on June 14, which accompanied a Washington Post article detailing the attacks. One of the hacking groups, Crowdstrike found, had access to the DNC servers for almost a year.

Here’s What We Know About Russia and the DNC Hack

I'll go there. Trump's campaign is run, exclusively by a group of hard care Putin acolytes (Page, Manafort, Flynn). And the community of hard core Putin acolytes in the USA is extremely small.

Trump has publically slobbered, repeatedly, his praise for Putin.

Trump, or his campaign, have repeatedly, issued policy statements and platform interventions that can only be seen as helpful to Russia and harmful to US interests.

Another Putin acolyte, Roger Stone, is in public contact with Julian Assaunge (a de facto agent of Putin).

Assaunge is actively helping Trump.

Trump publicly called on Russia to help his campaign.

Russia actively meddles in democratic regimes' elections.

Trump has financial ties to Russia and its oligarchs but will not disclose the extent of those ties.

---

There are any number of red flags. Lots of them. And at no time, since Putin gained control over the Trump campaign has Trump made any move or statement to condemn Putin or to even stand with the US against Putin's policies. Even in the face of massive pushback from Republicans and in the face of demonstrable damage to his campaign.

Trump = A Communist

Putin was a former KGB agent in the Communist Russia. Trump praised him, the Chinese leaders for mowing down the protesters and praised the dictators from North Korea including the latest. I am afraid he will have put be taken away and shot and killed, then fed to the dogs. He does have a hit list I can think of and that they are Democrats and Republicans including Ted Cruz. There was a threat from Manafort that Cruz's political career is over, and he should not run for President ever again.

Congrats. You just joined The Lazybrook Tinfoil Hat Party.

Putin isn't a communist, but a kleptocrat on an epic scale. He's not a capitalist either.

LOL. Call me crazy all you want, but there are many in the GOP that publicly agree with me. And they are doing so publicly and they have reputations and careers to think about.

Putin's people are running Trumps campaign. And Trump is doing Putin's bidding 100% of the time.

So, when some leak comes out in September (when Trump's contact with Assaunge/Putin - Roger Stone - decides to issue it), the HRC response is going to be to say "they're just making stuff up, and its Putin interfering in our elections for his pawn, Donald Trump."

And HRC will just trot out a huge number of Republicans to back her up on her claims.

There are some great possibilities for Matt Damon movies here.

Tom, I don't agree with you on much, but I've respected your opinions about most things, because they are clearly thought out and well enunciated.

However, I believe you have jumped the shark. This from someone who despises Trump.

I'd like to see you half as passionate to look into the governments, kingpins, and cronies that own a piece of Hillary.

(08-11-2016 06:55 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Tom, I don't agree with you on much, but I've respected your opinions about most things, because they are clearly thought out and well enunciated.

However, I believe you have jumped the shark. This from someone who despises Trump.

I'd like to see you half as passionate to look into the governments, kingpins, and cronies that own a piece of Hillary.

I've been dealing with and opposing Putin for over a decade now. This is exactly the stuff he does in weak countries. He funds Le Pen in France, and Pegida in Germany, and Orban in Hungary.

And his people are running Trump's campaign.

For me, I know that anything Putin touches is evil and dedicated to harming the USA. His goal is to create a multipolar world where his abuses and kleptocracy can be rewarded.

I'm not the only person claiming Trump to be a Putin pawn. There are lots of others, including prominent Republicans doing the same.

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Once we get rid of Putin's crew, we can discuss HRC's issues. She's a patriot, even if flawed.

(08-11-2016 10:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-11-2016 06:55 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Tom, I don't agree with you on much, but I've respected your opinions about most things, because they are clearly thought out and well enunciated.

However, I believe you have jumped the shark. This from someone who despises Trump.

I'd like to see you half as passionate to look into the governments, kingpins, and cronies that own a piece of Hillary.

I've been dealing with and opposing Putin for over a decade now. This is exactly the stuff he does in weak countries. He funds Le Pen in France, and Pegida in Germany, and Orban in Hungary.

And his people are running Trump's campaign.

For me, I know that anything Putin touches is evil and dedicated to harming the USA. His goal is to create a multipolar world where his abuses and kleptocracy can be rewarded.

I'm not the only person claiming Trump to be a Putin pawn. There are lots of others, including prominent Republicans doing the same.

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Once we get rid of Putin's crew, we can discuss HRC's issues. She's a patriot, even if flawed.

Hillary is a patriot?!?


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