https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewzeitlin/....ysRODd19D

New ESPN Subcription Service

Sounds like it will almost be like ESPN3.

Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

(08-10-2016 08:11 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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(08-10-2016 08:19 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:11 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

(08-10-2016 08:24 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:19 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:11 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:24 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:19 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:11 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:24 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:19 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:11 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Tradiational broadcast television is dead for sure. I bet it will not be long before ESPN3 is the where most folks are watching sports in total very soon.

Nice to see a MoSt poster on here, you are my #1 choice to replace any team we might lose.

Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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(08-10-2016 08:32 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:24 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:19 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  Broadcast TV is changing but it's not even close to dead.


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My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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Its dying and saying its "changing" is fine but if something "changes" to much it is not longer the same. Point being our kids are not going to sit on the couch at a specific time to watch a show full of commercials when they can just watch another source like Netflix / Amazon with a ton of original programing without commercials. I know this because I see it everyday. They will watch a TV show when it hits Netflix or Amazon to avoid the hassle of having to try and record or skip through 15 minutes of commercials. ABC, NBC and CBS are foriegn terms to my kids. I dont think 15% of the population is going to keep broadcast TV from folding.

(08-10-2016 08:41 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:32 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:24 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  My kids maybe watch a show a week on broadcast TV. 99.9% of their viewing is on a tablet on Netflix, Amazon or Youtube. My wife watches most of her shows on a tablet using the broadcast TV apps and not actually when they are broadcast on TV. I still DVR stuff and feel old doing it as the kids dont record one show anymore.

The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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Its dying and saying its "changing" is fine but if something "changes" to much it is not longer the same. Point being our kids are not going to sit on the couch at a specific time to watch a show full of commercials when they can just watch another source like Netflix / Amazon with a ton of original programing without commercials. I know this because I see it everyday. They will watch a TV show when it hits Netflix or Amazon to avoid the hassle of having to try and record or skip through 15 minutes of commercials. ABC, NBC and CBS are foriegn terms to my kids.

Alright dude I get it.

Adaptation equals death. I'm on board man.

So help me out real quick. Where can I catch the A-State games this fall after I turn in my DIRECTV Box later today?

I don't want to illegally share a login with some other sucker either who hasn't wised up and dumped his tv provider.

I also don't watch to use a stream based in Europe.

(Sling Tv won't get me all of them either)

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(08-10-2016 08:45 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:41 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:32 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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Its dying and saying its "changing" is fine but if something "changes" to much it is not longer the same. Point being our kids are not going to sit on the couch at a specific time to watch a show full of commercials when they can just watch another source like Netflix / Amazon with a ton of original programing without commercials. I know this because I see it everyday. They will watch a TV show when it hits Netflix or Amazon to avoid the hassle of having to try and record or skip through 15 minutes of commercials. ABC, NBC and CBS are foriegn terms to my kids.

Alright dude I get it.

Adaptation equals death. I'm on board man.

So help me out real quick. Where can I catch the A-State games this fall after I turn in my DIRECTV Box later today?

I don't want to illegally share a login with some other sucker either who hasn't wised up and dumped his tv provider.

I also don't watch to use a stream based in Europe.

(Sling Tv won't get me all of them either)

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I strongly endorse Playstation Vue, I get over 100 channels for $45 per month. You simply can't bet the value you received with this service. A similar package on satellite would have cost me double.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/

(08-10-2016 09:11 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:45 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:41 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:32 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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Its dying and saying its "changing" is fine but if something "changes" to much it is not longer the same. Point being our kids are not going to sit on the couch at a specific time to watch a show full of commercials when they can just watch another source like Netflix / Amazon with a ton of original programing without commercials. I know this because I see it everyday. They will watch a TV show when it hits Netflix or Amazon to avoid the hassle of having to try and record or skip through 15 minutes of commercials. ABC, NBC and CBS are foriegn terms to my kids.

Alright dude I get it.

Adaptation equals death. I'm on board man.

So help me out real quick. Where can I catch the A-State games this fall after I turn in my DIRECTV Box later today?

I don't want to illegally share a login with some other sucker either who hasn't wised up and dumped his tv provider.

I also don't watch to use a stream based in Europe.

(Sling Tv won't get me all of them either)

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I strongly endorse Playstation Vue, I get over 100 channels for $45 per month. You simply can't bet the value you received with this service. A similar package on satellite would have cost me double.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/

Yeah I entertained the idea. Still misses Utah State broadcast. If they had an Apple TV app I'd be really tempted. Of course I have unlimited cell data that I'd lose as well if I canned DIRECTV.


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Yeah, at this point the best interface with Playstation Vue is Amazon's Fire Stick/Box. I also have it on Roku, but it isn't nearly as slick an interface. They'll be adding the NFL Network and NFL Redzone before the season starts, but I believe these will be standalone channels (i.e. separate from their three packaged offerings) from what I'm reading on the internet. All the ESPN's are available on the Elite package with the exception of Classic. It's hands down the best option for replacing traditional cable/satellite as is available right now. We'll see what AT&T/DirecTV offer later this year when they introduce their OTT DirecTV Now service.

(08-10-2016 09:21 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Yeah, at this point the best interface with Playstation Vue is Amazon's Fire Stick/Box. I also have it on Roku, but it isn't nearly as slick an interface. They'll be adding the NFL Network and NFL Redzone before the season starts, but I believe these will be standalone channels (i.e. separate from their three packaged offerings) from what I'm reading on the internet. All the ESPN's are available on the Elite package with the exception of Classic. It's hands down the best option for replacing traditional cable/satellite as is available right now. We'll see what AT&T/DirecTV offer later this year when they introduce their OTT DirecTV Now service.

Yep it will be. One nice thing about the unlimited data tie in means I can watch an ESPN3 broadcast if I'm stuck on the road or something and not worry about hitting the cap.


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(08-10-2016 09:27 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 09:21 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Yeah, at this point the best interface with Playstation Vue is Amazon's Fire Stick/Box. I also have it on Roku, but it isn't nearly as slick an interface. They'll be adding the NFL Network and NFL Redzone before the season starts, but I believe these will be standalone channels (i.e. separate from their three packaged offerings) from what I'm reading on the internet. All the ESPN's are available on the Elite package with the exception of Classic. It's hands down the best option for replacing traditional cable/satellite as is available right now. We'll see what AT&T/DirecTV offer later this year when they introduce their OTT DirecTV Now service.

Yep it will be. One nice thing about the unlimited data tie in means I can watch an ESPN3 broadcast if I'm stuck on the road or something and not worry about hitting the cap.


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For heavy data users, AT&T offers a great inducement with the unlimited data/DirecTV bundle . I'll be curious to see if they offer that up to people who subscribe to their streaming service once it's unveiled later this year and not just satellite, my guess would be not. I'll be keeping my eyes open for sure though. For my situation, I can no longer justify the extra cost of DirecTV satellite service when there are much more affordable options out there.

(08-10-2016 09:37 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 09:27 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 09:21 AM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Yeah, at this point the best interface with Playstation Vue is Amazon's Fire Stick/Box. I also have it on Roku, but it isn't nearly as slick an interface. They'll be adding the NFL Network and NFL Redzone before the season starts, but I believe these will be standalone channels (i.e. separate from their three packaged offerings) from what I'm reading on the internet. All the ESPN's are available on the Elite package with the exception of Classic. It's hands down the best option for replacing traditional cable/satellite as is available right now. We'll see what AT&T/DirecTV offer later this year when they introduce their OTT DirecTV Now service.

Yep it will be. One nice thing about the unlimited data tie in means I can watch an ESPN3 broadcast if I'm stuck on the road or something and not worry about hitting the cap.


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For heavy data users, AT&T offers a great inducement with the unlimited data/DirecTV bundle . I'll be curious to see if they offer that up to people who subscribe to their streaming service once it's unveiled later this year and not just satellite, my guess would be not. I'll be keeping my eyes open for sure though. For my situation, I can no longer justify the extra cost of DirecTV satellite service when there are much more affordable options out there.

Yeah. Once I had DTV give me a year free of the stupid box fees and I slimmed up the package a little I was down to like $70 month. I'm like you if they roll out a sweet deal on the streaming service I might head that way. Needs a cloud DVR too for sure.


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Broadcast Television isn't dead. Broadcast Television is free to air television...it's going to always be around in some form or fashion

Cable Television, those that charge a subscriber fee for access, that's what is in trouble. Major difference between the two.

I wish I knew what the heck yall are talking about. After reading this thread I feel I'm getting screwed by Mediacom but have no idea where to start to replace what I have.

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(08-10-2016 08:45 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:41 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:32 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:28 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 08:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  The broadcast tv apps that require a cable or satellite login to access?

So like changing, but not dead? lol


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Not if you have a password homey. HBO to go is free for most folks.

Traditional broadcast tv to my kids is what 8 tracks were to me when I was a very young kid. They will kinda remember them but never really used them. I guess you missed the part where I said my kids only watch Netflix, Youtube and Amazon you just need internet connection. LOL

Yes I get what you said.

My two year old watches YouTube and Netflix on her Kindle that she operates on her own.

I also have near 60 parents who just got their first dvr. Lots and lots of people in this world with lots of varying technical abilities.

Just using a quick google search I see somewhere around 15-20% of Americans have no internet access.

TV is changing, we can watch in a number of different ways, but it's long from dead for a number of reasons.


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Its dying and saying its "changing" is fine but if something "changes" to much it is not longer the same. Point being our kids are not going to sit on the couch at a specific time to watch a show full of commercials when they can just watch another source like Netflix / Amazon with a ton of original programing without commercials. I know this because I see it everyday. They will watch a TV show when it hits Netflix or Amazon to avoid the hassle of having to try and record or skip through 15 minutes of commercials. ABC, NBC and CBS are foriegn terms to my kids.

Alright dude I get it.

Adaptation equals death. I'm on board man.

So help me out real quick. Where can I catch the A-State games this fall after I turn in my DIRECTV Box later today?

I don't want to illegally share a login with some other sucker either who hasn't wised up and dumped his tv provider.

I also don't watch to use a stream based in Europe.

(Sling Tv won't get me all of them either)

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HBO CEO stated he didnt care about the password sharing as it grew the customer base BTW. It does in general so dont freak out about being a hardened crimimal if you happen to give your passwords out or borrower someones.

Just give it a few years, its not dead but its dying.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mattlynley/hbos...rpZOwwXln7

Over on the realignment board there is eternal smugness about cord cutting but it misses what is happening.

With cable and satellite, the provider bundling channels also pays for the delivery infrastructure (the wires the satellites).

With Slingbox's semi-cable, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and HBOGO, you are still paying someone to gather up content and bundle it and the delivery infrastructure now is in someone else's hands, except even that's not totally true, Netflix for example pays larger internet service providers to mirror content on their servers to shrink the size of the loop.

Lets also remember that "it's so cheap" is BS as well.
If you are a Netflix or Hulu user you are being subsidized by the investors. Neither service is profitable, the investors are betting that they can get you so hooked that when they change the price structure to reach profitability that you can't give it up.
Amazon no way is their video profitable. Until 2014 Prime was $79 a year whether you used video or not and it went up to $99. No way that covers their server costs and costs of licensing content. Amazon is willing to lose money on video (for right now) to gain market share in your spending habits.
HBO doesn't care right now if you share logins because dealers always give the first taste for free. They want you to watch the hell out of it and feel it is essential to your entertainment happiness. Then when there is simultaneous login from different areas they can kick one of them off, do it enough times, people start paying for their own.

All that is changing is you are going to pay more people. You will pay for the wire or radio signal to your home which is the pipe. Then you will pay the content aggregator and chances are you end up paying for more than one aggregator.