Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

Didn't UH have this recruiting advantage once before?

Why will this time be different?

(08-08-2016 07:36 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  Didn't UH have this recruiting advantage once before?

Why will this time be different?

Im thinking it would be easier to recruit Houston if you actually play games there on regular basis. Seems to me Kansas St might find they do better with Houston recruits if Kansas St is playing in Houston regularly.

Houston is tougher to beat now... because they don't have Dana Dimel as their head coach any more. His record there was 8-26.

(08-08-2016 09:12 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Houston is tougher to beat now... because they don't have Dana Dimel as their head coach any more. His record there was 8-26.

And there you have it. LOL

"We shouldn't take them because . . . they might beat us."

Said Jim Delany, Roy Kramer, John Swofford, Larry Scott or Mike Slive, never.

If you want to be in a P5 conference you shouldnt operate it like cowards...
And yes UH has the potential to be a monster in athletics...
And yes that is good for the conference and for the conferences next TV contract when UT, OU and Kansas are gone...

(08-08-2016 09:12 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Houston is tougher to beat now... because they don't have Dana Dimel as their head coach any more. His record there was 8-26.

And the only winless season in school history. He may have turned the corner with more time but his legacy is an awful one.

Would Houston be a proponent of Rice joining the American? Would Cincinnati campaign for Miami (OH)? Let's not be hypocritical here.

Rice can join when the AAC resembles C-USA.

(08-08-2016 09:35 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  "We shouldn't take them because . . . they might beat us."

Said Jim Delany, Roy Kramer, John Swofford, Larry Scott or Mike Slive, never.

Delany just added Rutgers and Maryland so not sure I agree with this

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

(08-09-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

Do you want Miami, Toledo and Ohio to share the same conference as Cincinnati and be competition for football recruits?

(08-09-2016 08:36 AM)a cat but also a bear Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

Do you want Miami, Toledo and Ohio to share the same conference as Cincinnati and be competition for football recruits?

Toledo would not bother me. Ohio and Miami smaller towns and more difficult to get to for many AAC members.

(08-09-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

Those are the teams (purdue, Ill, Indiana) we recruit against anyway so I agree. Ohio State doesn't want us in because they want us to go away and reclaim more of Ohio as Buckeye fans. Honestly, we don't recruit against them an wouldn't even in the B10. I don't think it's about that.

I find it interesting that Louisville is just as close as Ohio State, competes with us much more for similar recruits, and yet they always support us. The school in our own state university system actively works against us instead.

(08-09-2016 10:00 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 08:36 AM)a cat but also a bear Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

Do you want Miami, Toledo and Ohio to share the same conference as Cincinnati and be competition for football recruits?

Toledo would not bother me. Ohio and Miami smaller towns and more difficult to get to for many AAC members.

Miami is in the Cincinnati metro area. Its not that hard to get to from the Cincy or Dayton airports.

(08-09-2016 06:48 AM)a cat but also a bear Wrote:  Would Houston be a proponent of Rice joining the American? Would Cincinnati campaign for Miami (OH)? Let's not be hypocritical here.

I believe we advocated and supported Rice joining CUSA. We also advocated for other Texas schools (like SMU) while we were in CUSA. The dumbest thing Ive heard is a conference not wanting to invite a school that might become "too successful". Isn't the point to increase the value of a conference?

(08-09-2016 11:23 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 10:00 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 08:36 AM)a cat but also a bear Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dimel said. “If they get into the Big 12 they will be tough to beat in recruiting, because of the proximity.”
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big...37662.html

Reminds me of when former OSU President said he would to shoot his AD if they ever let Cincy in the Big Ten. There are universities that are concerned with UH potential.

You've touched on a point I have bringing up for a few years. OSU obviously does not want UC in the B10 but you know who else doesn't.. schools like Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (which comparable to a KSU coach calling out Houston). OSU will get their recruits irrespective as to whether UC was in the B10. The teams I mentioned would be more damaged by a UC addition to the B10 because they rely so much on Ohio recruiting.

Do you want Miami, Toledo and Ohio to share the same conference as Cincinnati and be competition for football recruits?

Toledo would not bother me. Ohio and Miami smaller towns and more difficult to get to for many AAC members.

Miami is in the Cincinnati metro area. Its not that hard to get to from the Cincy or Dayton airports.

UC is a 10-15 minute drive from CVG. From CVG or Dayton to Oxford it is 1 hour depending on traffic. It is difficult getting in there with small state routes being the only roads. Their facilities are sub par. Toledo has renovated their arena, and I think maybe they did something with the football stadium? Miami's attendance for football and bball is pretty bad. Nobody goes to bball games there.

Someone pointed out on Coogfans that KSU hasn't signed anyone from Houston since the class of 2013, and also currently has 0 Houston area commits. What's worse than zero, that Dimel is so afraid of?

Guy is just a loser.

(08-09-2016 12:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Someone pointed out on Coogfans that KSU hasn't signed anyone from Houston since the class of 2013, and also currently has 0 Houston area commits. What's worse than zero, that Dimel is so afraid of?

Guy is just a loser.

Dimel's comment is just former-coach-speak, lots of ex-head coaches say things like, "I could have won big there if they were in the Big 12 when I coached there," or "We would have won the conference every year if only they'd had a $500 million indoor practice facility when I was there," etc., etc.