(08-06-2016 09:10 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 09:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:44 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:05 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ok you just reinforced my point.... If Houston was in the big 10 it would be different. Not sure what your proving here since i never claimed people followed Houston big time in the aac.

That's one of those 1+1=3 answers. If UH didn't draw viewership last season going virtually the whole season undefeated, their best season in years, it tells you UH doesn't bring the city of Houston market. So my original response stands, if Houston were playing OSU or Mich, those schools would bring the viewers, not UH. And you have now confirmed it considering the viewership facts of last season, by stating "..if Houston was in the B10...". BTW, you should note those are not just AAC games listed, those listed are games in which an AAC school was involved. Point is, you can claim anything based upon you conjecture buts facts of last season are not on your side.

But you leave out the fact that a Houston vs memphis game isn't exciting. People would rather see Houston play a big name school like Michigan. Your point doesn't really stand since many Houstonians are use to seeing their teams play big names.

Like i said if people knew that Houston would play schools that are interesting like Michigan then they would watch. You obviously don't understand how fickle Houston fans are. They only care about teams in Texas or Louisiana. But they aren't going to bother watch Houston if they consistently play schools who they consider nobodies like uconn or memphis.

This alone destroys your point. As soon as houston played its biggest name school of the season florida st. it was the fourth highest rated bowl game as far as tv ratings in texas.

https://bill37mccurdy.com/tag/tv-ratings...n-2015-16/

Westhoff, the UH-FSU Peach should not have been the 4th most viewed in Houston last year...it should've been far and away the most watched game in Houston. Let's not kid ourselves. Your point could be taken with ANY school who had Ohio St & Michigan on their schedule. I remember the Boise St vs Virginia Tech game being the highest rated college athletic event on cable that year. Small market Boise. Coogs should have way better tv ratings. When I was a kid, Houston was a big tv draw. The high flying Coogs in the Ware era got some eyeballs. I still remember the Houston Miami game that everyone always points to as the Coogs Spanish Armada moment. Hasn't been the same since that game.
Cheers!

Well the games that were ahead of it were the 2 playoff games and the national championship game. To expect the UH peach bowl game to have higher viewership of those games in Texas is ridiculous. To clarify the peach bowl was the most viewed bowl game in TEXAS! It was the most viewed game in Houston.

My point is the average fickle Houston fan would rather watch a game were Houston plays a big name school like Michigan not someone they consider a nobody. For the average Houston fan that would be pretty much the entire aac.

The fact is a Houston vs Michigan game would get huge viewership in Houston. But those watching the game would be watching because they are fans of Houston not Michigan. They would be watching because the school they are a fan of is finally playing who they consider a real school.

Oh on that point, I read the linked article wrong. I thought it said 4th most watched in Houston. I didn't see 4th in Texas. My bad
Cheers!

(08-06-2016 09:25 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 09:16 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 09:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:44 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's one of those 1+1=3 answers. If UH didn't draw viewership last season going virtually the whole season undefeated, their best season in years, it tells you UH doesn't bring the city of Houston market. So my original response stands, if Houston were playing OSU or Mich, those schools would bring the viewers, not UH. And you have now confirmed it considering the viewership facts of last season, by stating "..if Houston was in the B10...". BTW, you should note those are not just AAC games listed, those listed are games in which an AAC school was involved. Point is, you can claim anything based upon you conjecture buts facts of last season are not on your side.

But you leave out the fact that a Houston vs memphis game isn't exciting. People would rather see Houston play a big name school like Michigan. Your point doesn't really stand since many Houstonians are use to seeing their teams play big names.

Like i said if people knew that Houston would play schools that are interesting like Michigan then they would watch. You obviously don't understand how fickle Houston fans are. They only care about teams in Texas or Louisiana. But they aren't going to bother watch Houston if they consistently play schools who they consider nobodies like uconn or memphis.

This alone destroys your point. As soon as houston played its biggest name school of the season florida st. it was the fourth highest rated bowl game as far as tv ratings in texas.

https://bill37mccurdy.com/tag/tv-ratings...n-2015-16/

Another 1+1=3 answer. Memphis holds up its viewership, having 4 of the top viewed games involving AAC schools. Houston had none. Both consistent, Memphis playing draws viewers, UH doesn't (you can look it up, I did it several months ago). Memphis was consistently viewing the Memphis vs UH game, it's the Houston viewers who weren't. And all you proved with the bowl game is that FSU draws viewers. If you want further evidence, look at the Houston TV market rankings when UH plays, when UT plays & when aTm plays - you'll see conclusively who draws in Houston (which BTW doesn't draw like Memphis, Birmingham, Knoxville , Atlanta & some other southern cities for college FB regardless of who's playing.

Ok buts its easy to skew facts when you compare memphis to Houston. Memphis is a much smaller city with no professional sports teams of note in football. Not to mention Houston fans are much different than memphis fans. It l's literally apples and oranges you can't compare with any knowledge unless you have lived in Houston and actually experienced Houston sports culture.

All you have proved is that my point about Houston fans being fickle is correct. Unless Houston is winning games against big name schools Houston fans don't care to watch.

That's any school. Slap a P5 opponent in most G5 stadiums and attendance+tv ratings go up. Kind of a cop out to label that exclusively a Houston issue...

Also we could've avoided all this ugliness if you had supported my team back =*(

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU MOST

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Bro I'm all for NIU to the aac lol. Also which thread did you need support on i can't keep track of all your niu to the aac post!

Also i agree with you it could apply to any school. Its just in Houston you would have a larger pool of people.

(08-06-2016 09:10 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 09:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:44 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:31 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 08:05 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ok you just reinforced my point.... If Houston was in the big 10 it would be different. Not sure what your proving here since i never claimed people followed Houston big time in the aac.

That's one of those 1+1=3 answers. If UH didn't draw viewership last season going virtually the whole season undefeated, their best season in years, it tells you UH doesn't bring the city of Houston market. So my original response stands, if Houston were playing OSU or Mich, those schools would bring the viewers, not UH. And you have now confirmed it considering the viewership facts of last season, by stating "..if Houston was in the B10...". BTW, you should note those are not just AAC games listed, those listed are games in which an AAC school was involved. Point is, you can claim anything based upon you conjecture buts facts of last season are not on your side.

But you leave out the fact that a Houston vs memphis game isn't exciting. People would rather see Houston play a big name school like Michigan. Your point doesn't really stand since many Houstonians are use to seeing their teams play big names.

Like i said if people knew that Houston would play schools that are interesting like Michigan then they would watch. You obviously don't understand how fickle Houston fans are. They only care about teams in Texas or Louisiana. But they aren't going to bother watch Houston if they consistently play schools who they consider nobodies like uconn or memphis.

This alone destroys your point. As soon as houston played its biggest name school of the season florida st. it was the fourth highest rated bowl game as far as tv ratings in texas.

https://bill37mccurdy.com/tag/tv-ratings...n-2015-16/

Westhoff, the UH-FSU Peach should not have been the 4th most viewed in Houston last year...it should've been far and away the most watched game in Houston. Let's not kid ourselves. Your point could be taken with ANY school who had Ohio St & Michigan on their schedule. I remember the Boise St vs Virginia Tech game being the highest rated college athletic event on cable that year. Small market Boise. Coogs should have way better tv ratings. When I was a kid, Houston was a big tv draw. The high flying Coogs in the Ware era got some eyeballs. I still remember the Houston Miami game that everyone always points to as the Coogs Spanish Armada moment. Hasn't been the same since that game.
Cheers!

Well the games that were ahead of it were the 2 playoff games and the national championship game. To expect the UH peach bowl game to have higher viewership of those games in Texas is ridiculous. To clarify the peach bowl was the most viewed bowl game in TEXAS! It was the most viewed game in Houston.

My point is the average fickle Houston fan would rather watch a game were Houston plays a big name school like Michigan not someone they consider a nobody. For the average Houston fan that would be pretty much the entire aac.

The fact is a Houston vs Michigan game would get huge viewership in Houston. But those watching the game would be watching because they are fans of Houston not Michigan. They would be watching because the school they are a fan of is finally playing who they consider a real school.

This is not unique to Houston fans. UConn added temporary seats when we played Michigan.

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

If you knew as much about TV ratings as you think then you wouldn't have made this post. Most of these top rated "aac" games are on the list because of the p5 teams drawing all of the interest. The real aac games did so in large part because of the favorable time slots available.

That temple/smu game? Friday night
Memphis/usf? Friday night
Memphis/tulsa? Oh I was shocked to find it was a Friday night lol
Uconn/byu? Hot diggity damn another Friday night
Cincinnati/Memphis was on espn thursday night football. This is legit.

As for Houston, there wasn't much favor in terms of time slot/channel combos. The smu game was a Thursday espn2 game with an Astros playoff game, Texans/colts game, and usc/Washington game on espn the same night (how's that for bad luck). Louisville game was on some regional acc network because of their TV contract. Navy game was 11 on black Friday while everyone was shopping or working (monster ratings in market though).

Your post is pure intellectual dishonesty. Just off the top of my head I know middling UH and UC teams had one of the highest rated aac football games in 2014 entirely because of the TV window and lack of competition. I'm pretty sure the byu game was also on that list because it was a Thursday night game.

Then you went on to make some ridiculous argument about the local Houston peach bowl ratings being unimpressive but again you fail to note the TV window. Most people have jobs and were at work when the game was on and it still drew a big number. Even a child can recognize that the ratings would've been higher if it where in prime time.

I don't usually get involved in these but damn man...

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 12:26 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 11:55 AM)rosewater Wrote:  The same reason that they do not go over the Chicago Market with NIU. You do not deliver the market.

.........If UH was in the big 10 everyone in the city would tune in to see .......ohio st. or Michigan etc.

FIFY...again.

Not really since there aren't any Ohio st. or Michigan fans in Houston. People would watch to see Houston not those schools.

I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

No Houston games?

Apparently you overlooked these games----

Houston vs Florida St ESPN 6,004,000
Houston vs Navy ABC 2,100,000
Houston vs Temple ABC 1,800,000
Houston vs Memphis ESPN2 748,000

Three of those 4 games didn't have a P5 involved, yet still drew quite well. As a comparison, here are some power 5 games--

Kansas vs Oklahoma St FS1 433,000
TCU vs Iowa St ESPN2 849,000
Texas vs TCU ABC 2,768,000
Texas Tech vs Baylor ESPN2 847,000
Virginia Tech vs Purdue ESPNU 522,000
Alabama vs Mississippi ESPN 7,605,000


You see, even power conference numbers vary widely. The Houston numbers, as well as the ratings of many of the AAC teams fall well within the range often seen in the P5. The difference is you don't see many Alabama vs Mississippi type audiences for AAC games. lol...that's why the SEC gets the big bucks.

The other thing you will notice is the platform matters. Games on FS1 will be lower rated than a similar game on ESPN. Games on ESPN-News get horrible ratings (everyone does bad on that network---G5 or P5....it makes no difference). It should be noted that the average AAC ratings gets pulled down because we fill a lot of slots on ESPN-News. When on the stronger platforms, we draw ratings quite similar to the typical P5 team (but significantly less than the top P5 draws like Alabama or Ohio St--but of course the average P5 doesn't draw like 'Bama and Ohio St either).

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...ngs/#week7

(08-07-2016 12:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 12:26 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  .........If UH was in the big 10 everyone in the city would tune in to see .......ohio st. or Michigan etc.

FIFY...again.

Not really since there aren't any Ohio st. or Michigan fans in Houston. People would watch to see Houston not those schools.

I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

No Houston games?

Apparently you overlooked these games----

Houston vs Florida St ESPN 6,004,000
Houston vs Navy ABC 2,100,000
Houston vs Temple ABC 1,800,000
Houston vs Memphis ESPN2 748,000

Three of those 4 games didn't have a P5 involved, yet still drew quite well.

Didn't even know about those ones. This guy really doesn't know anything about Houston sports or how we control our market.

(08-06-2016 10:23 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

If you knew as much about TV ratings as you think then you wouldn't have made this post. Most of these top rated "aac" games are on the list because of the p5 teams drawing all of the interest. The real aac games did so in large part because of the favorable time slots available.

That temple/smu game? Friday night
Memphis/usf? Friday night
Memphis/tulsa? Oh I was shocked to find it was a Friday night lol
Uconn/byu? Hot diggity damn another Friday night
Cincinnati/Memphis was on espn thursday night football. This is legit.

As for Houston, there wasn't much favor in terms of time slot/channel combos. The smu game was a Thursday espn2 game with an Astros playoff game, Texans/colts game, and usc/Washington game on espn the same night (how's that for bad luck). Louisville game was on some regional acc network because of their TV contract. Navy game was 11 on black Friday while everyone was shopping or working (monster ratings in market though).

Your post is pure intellectual dishonesty. Just off the top of my head I know middling UH and UC teams had one of the highest rated aac football games in 2014 entirely because of the TV window and lack of competition. I'm pretty sure the byu game was also on that list because it was a Thursday night game.

Then you went on to make some ridiculous argument about the local Houston peach bowl ratings being unimpressive but again you fail to note the TV window. Most people have jobs and were at work when the game was on and it still drew a big number. Even a child can recognize that the ratings would've been higher if it where in prime time.

I don't usually get involved in these but damn man...

My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

(08-07-2016 12:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 12:26 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  .........If UH was in the big 10 everyone in the city would tune in to see .......ohio st. or Michigan etc.

FIFY...again.

Not really since there aren't any Ohio st. or Michigan fans in Houston. People would watch to see Houston not those schools.

I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

No Houston games?

Apparently you overlooked these games----

Houston vs Florida St ESPN 6,004,000
Houston vs Navy ABC 2,100,000
Houston vs Temple ABC 1,800,000
Houston vs Memphis ESPN2 748,000

Three of those 4 games didn't have a P5 involved, yet still drew quite well. As a comparison, here are some power 5 games--

Kansas vs Oklahoma St FS1 433,000
TCU vs Iowa St ESPN2 849,000
Texas vs TCU ABC 2,768,000
Texas Tech vs Baylor ESPN2 847,000
Virginia Tech vs Purdue ESPNU 522,000
Alabama vs Mississippi ESPN 7,605,000


You see, even power conference numbers vary widely. The Houston numbers, as well as the ratings of many of the AAC teams fall well within the range often seen in the P5. The difference is you don't see many Alabama vs Mississippi type audiences for AAC games. lol...that's why the SEC gets the big bucks.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...ngs/#week7

Also forgot Army-Navy -- 7,129,000

(08-07-2016 06:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 10:23 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

If you knew as much about TV ratings as you think then you wouldn't have made this post. Most of these top rated "aac" games are on the list because of the p5 teams drawing all of the interest. The real aac games did so in large part because of the favorable time slots available.

That temple/smu game? Friday night
Memphis/usf? Friday night
Memphis/tulsa? Oh I was shocked to find it was a Friday night lol
Uconn/byu? Hot diggity damn another Friday night
Cincinnati/Memphis was on espn thursday night football. This is legit.

As for Houston, there wasn't much favor in terms of time slot/channel combos. The smu game was a Thursday espn2 game with an Astros playoff game, Texans/colts game, and usc/Washington game on espn the same night (how's that for bad luck). Louisville game was on some regional acc network because of their TV contract. Navy game was 11 on black Friday while everyone was shopping or working (monster ratings in market though).

Your post is pure intellectual dishonesty. Just off the top of my head I know middling UH and UC teams had one of the highest rated aac football games in 2014 entirely because of the TV window and lack of competition. I'm pretty sure the byu game was also on that list because it was a Thursday night game.

Then you went on to make some ridiculous argument about the local Houston peach bowl ratings being unimpressive but again you fail to note the TV window. Most people have jobs and were at work when the game was on and it still drew a big number. Even a child can recognize that the ratings would've been higher if it where in prime time.

I don't usually get involved in these but damn man...

My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

Wait, the UH TV rating games have been removed from the AAC website???

That's the most interesting thing in this thread. Must verify.

(08-07-2016 12:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 12:26 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  .........If UH was in the big 10 everyone in the city would tune in to see .......ohio st. or Michigan etc.

FIFY...again.

Not really since there aren't any Ohio st. or Michigan fans in Houston. People would watch to see Houston not those schools.

I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

No Houston games?

Apparently you overlooked these games----

Houston vs Florida St ESPN 6,004,000
Houston vs Navy ABC 2,100,000
Houston vs Temple ABC 1,800,000
Houston vs Memphis ESPN2 748,000

Three of those 4 games didn't have a P5 involved, yet still drew quite well. As a comparison, here are some power 5 games--

Kansas vs Oklahoma St FS1 433,000
TCU vs Iowa St ESPN2 849,000
Texas vs TCU ABC 2,768,000
Texas Tech vs Baylor ESPN2 847,000
Virginia Tech vs Purdue ESPNU 522,000
Alabama vs Mississippi ESPN 7,605,000


You see, even power conference numbers vary widely. The Houston numbers, as well as the ratings of many of the AAC teams fall well within the range often seen in the P5. The difference is you don't see many Alabama vs Mississippi type audiences for AAC games. lol...that's why the SEC gets the big bucks.

The other thing you will notice is the platform matters. Games on FS1 will be lower rated than a similar game on ESPN. Games on ESPN-News get horrible ratings (everyone does bad on that network---G5 or P5....it makes no difference). It should be noted that the average AAC ratings gets pulled down because we fill a lot of slots on ESPN-News. When on the stronger platforms, we draw ratings quite similar to the typical P5 team (but significantly less than the top P5 draws like Alabama or Ohio St--but of course the average P5 doesn't draw like 'Bama and Ohio St either).

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...ngs/#week7

Now compare Houston's tv numbers from last year to UCF's Fiesta Bowl year...

New Years EVE Day morning

(08-07-2016 08:51 AM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  New Years EVE Day morning

I live in mountain lion country. In fact, I've sighted a lion less than a half-mile from my home (which is why I've told my wife that it's her job to take out the trash after dark). The big cats are noble animals, capable of eighteen-foot vertical and forty-foot horizontal leaps and able to knock down a full-grown elk. That's why I can't imagine one wearing a little leather harness. Honestly, that accoutrement makes the cat look like a sissy, or maybe a critter that's into S&M.

(08-07-2016 10:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 08:51 AM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  New Years EVE Day morning

I live in mountain lion country. In fact, I've sighted a lion less than a half-mile from my home (which is why I've told my wife that it's her job to take out the trash after dark). The big cats are noble animals, capable of eighteen-foot vertical and forty-foot horizontal leaps and able to knock down a full-grown elk. That's why I can't imagine one wearing a little leather harness. Honestly, that accoutrement makes the cat look like a sissy, or maybe a critter that's into S&M.

Definitely the latter, coogs are kinky

Let's just say, "coog'n it" has a much happier meaning for most in the bedroom than on the field...
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(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

1. Your numbers are from this article:

http://theamerican.org/news/2015/11/18/F...53817.aspx

This was written on November 18. Houston played 4 games after this article that you claim represents the entire season. 3 out of the final 4 games would've made the list including the highest overall rated game and the 2 highest rated games including 2 AAC teams. Spin that one.

2. Whatever nonsensical argument that you're trying to cobble together about the smu game is hilarious. If you weren't a Memphis fan I'd say you're playing dumb by claiming to not understand the concept of competitive time slots. You mixing up arguments about local attendance and national ratings is the cherry on top.

3. I can't help but notice that in your babbling reply you managed to avoid addressing the majority of my post. You seem fixated on intellectual dishonesty. The fact that you doubled down on it removes all doubt about you making an honest mistake in lifting those numbers. You shifting blame to the aac website says a lot lol.

(08-07-2016 10:49 AM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

1. Your numbers are from this article:

http://theamerican.org/news/2015/11/18/F...53817.aspx

This was written on November 18. Houston played 4 games after this article that you claim represents the entire season. 3 out of the final 4 games would've made the list including the highest overall rated game and the 2 highest rated games including 2 AAC teams. Spin that one.

2. Whatever nonsensical argument that you're trying to cobble together about the smu game is hilarious. If you weren't a Memphis fan I'd say you're playing dumb by claiming to not understand the concept of competitive time slots. You mixing up arguments about local attendance and national ratings is the cherry on top.

3. I can't help but notice that in your babbling reply you managed to avoid addressing the majority of my post. You seem fixated on intellectual dishonesty. The fact that you doubled down on it removes all doubt about you making an honest mistake in lifting those numbers. You shifting blame to the aac website says a lot lol.

Clearly he is just another hater.

(08-06-2016 12:17 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-05-2016 06:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  How absurd would Houston to the Big 10 of sounded just 5 years ago?

As absurd as UCONN to the Big 10 at any time.

FYP

(08-07-2016 08:49 AM)bignow Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 12:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  FIFY...again.

Not really since there aren't any Ohio st. or Michigan fans in Houston. People would watch to see Houston not those schools.

I know you're a Houston fan so I understand the logic of your statement but there is no reason to believe it based upon how Houston was viewed during last season. Here are the top viewed games involving AAC schools last season - none are Houston games - despite the size of the Houston market:

Games With One Million Television Viewers
Game Network Viewers
Notre Dame at Temple ABC 5,977,380
Virginia Tech at East Carolina ABC 3,720,725
Mississippi at Memphis ABC 3,310,625
USF at Florida State ESPN 2,215,728
Baylor at SMU ESPN 2,003,279
Penn State at Temple ESPN 1,912,493
UConn at Missouri ESPN 1,902,664
Cincinnati at Brigham Young ESPN 1,467,515
Miami (Fla.) at Cincinnati ESPN 1,347,663
Cincinnati at Memphis ESPN 1,241,777
UConn at Brigham Young ESPN2 1,239,948
Memphis at Tulsa ESPN 1,215,920
Memphis at USF ESPN2 1,154,610
Temple at SMU ESPN2 1,079,524
East Carolina at Florida ESPN2 1,045,991

No Houston games?

Apparently you overlooked these games----

Houston vs Florida St ESPN 6,004,000
Houston vs Navy ABC 2,100,000
Houston vs Temple ABC 1,800,000
Houston vs Memphis ESPN2 748,000

Three of those 4 games didn't have a P5 involved, yet still drew quite well. As a comparison, here are some power 5 games--

Kansas vs Oklahoma St FS1 433,000
TCU vs Iowa St ESPN2 849,000
Texas vs TCU ABC 2,768,000
Texas Tech vs Baylor ESPN2 847,000
Virginia Tech vs Purdue ESPNU 522,000
Alabama vs Mississippi ESPN 7,605,000


You see, even power conference numbers vary widely. The Houston numbers, as well as the ratings of many of the AAC teams fall well within the range often seen in the P5. The difference is you don't see many Alabama vs Mississippi type audiences for AAC games. lol...that's why the SEC gets the big bucks.

The other thing you will notice is the platform matters. Games on FS1 will be lower rated than a similar game on ESPN. Games on ESPN-News get horrible ratings (everyone does bad on that network---G5 or P5....it makes no difference). It should be noted that the average AAC ratings gets pulled down because we fill a lot of slots on ESPN-News. When on the stronger platforms, we draw ratings quite similar to the typical P5 team (but significantly less than the top P5 draws like Alabama or Ohio St--but of course the average P5 doesn't draw like 'Bama and Ohio St either).

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-...ngs/#week7

Now compare Houston's tv numbers from last year to UCF's Fiesta Bowl year...

Now compare that number with Cincinnati's Sugar Bowl number. Save you the reading 16 million. http://zap2it.com/2010/01/tv-ratings-sug...ox-friday/

Did either of ucf of Cincy play their bcs bowls at noon on a workday?

(08-07-2016 11:33 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 10:49 AM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

1. Your numbers are from this article:

http://theamerican.org/news/2015/11/18/F...53817.aspx

This was written on November 18. Houston played 4 games after this article that you claim represents the entire season. 3 out of the final 4 games would've made the list including the highest overall rated game and the 2 highest rated games including 2 AAC teams. Spin that one.

2. Whatever nonsensical argument that you're trying to cobble together about the smu game is hilarious. If you weren't a Memphis fan I'd say you're playing dumb by claiming to not understand the concept of competitive time slots. You mixing up arguments about local attendance and national ratings is the cherry on top.

3. I can't help but notice that in your babbling reply you managed to avoid addressing the majority of my post. You seem fixated on intellectual dishonesty. The fact that you doubled down on it removes all doubt about you making an honest mistake in lifting those numbers. You shifting blame to the aac website says a lot lol.

Clearly he is just another hater.

For his sake I hope so

(08-07-2016 12:23 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 11:33 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 10:49 AM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  

(08-06-2016 07:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  My post is directly from the AAC website - no mystery, nothing there about a Houston game. Ask the AAC why they didn't add any UH games - intellectually dishonest? And your excuses of an opposing pro game or what night they played just prove UH doesn't bring the Houston market. Same for UH home game attendance, not so good - and that's on the AAC website too. So you have a lot to complain to the AAC about there misrepresentation of the UH market - with the AAC audacity to show highest TV rankings & home attendance. Never realized the UH fans were such bunch of whiners, but if have to whine go whine to the AAC who published those "intellectually dishonest numbers".

1. Your numbers are from this article:

http://theamerican.org/news/2015/11/18/F...53817.aspx

This was written on November 18. Houston played 4 games after this article that you claim represents the entire season. 3 out of the final 4 games would've made the list including the highest overall rated game and the 2 highest rated games including 2 AAC teams. Spin that one.

2. Whatever nonsensical argument that you're trying to cobble together about the smu game is hilarious. If you weren't a Memphis fan I'd say you're playing dumb by claiming to not understand the concept of competitive time slots. You mixing up arguments about local attendance and national ratings is the cherry on top.

3. I can't help but notice that in your babbling reply you managed to avoid addressing the majority of my post. You seem fixated on intellectual dishonesty. The fact that you doubled down on it removes all doubt about you making an honest mistake in lifting those numbers. You shifting blame to the aac website says a lot lol.

Clearly he is just another hater.

For his sake I hope so

I simply posted attendance as reported by the AAC. If you Google AAC TV ratings, this report comes up from the AAC. No motive here, simply reporting facts. Nothing more or less. I have never mentioned SMU at all & never mentioned UH actual home attendance until you or another UH whiner brought it into the conversation.

Point is & everyone knows it, UH doesn't draw TV viewers or home attendance at games. 5th largest metro area in the US and you can't even hang with the likes of Memphis, Nashville, Birmingham, Knoxville or Atlanta in TV ratings for college football - and it hardly budges the needle even when UH is playing. And your actual home games attendance, what? - 3rd or 4th in the conference - and in the 5th largest city in the US with the conference champ. Shame on UH. Your largest home attendance was the Memphis game & clearly a 3rd of those were Memphis fans. Don't even look at UH basketball attendance, it's more embarrassing.