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2016 WRs
So there was I at the spring game watching redshirt frosh Collins and Snelling do a decent job of catching the ball and looking forward to see them play in 2016. In less than 30 days after that game both players are no longer on the team. We also apparently lost Wilkes a two star WR who signed a letter of intent in February. This leaves EMU with a mixed bag this year WR wise.

The only solid WR returning is Eddie Daugherty at 5'7 164 who was not highly recruited but contributed 23.4 yards per kick off return and had 37 receptions and 4 TDs). What was lacking last year was a another threat like Daugherty to keep defenses honest and a solid third down WR.

Returning are Aloyis Gray a 6'4, 204 senior who had 3 receptions for 33 yards, Lemar Harris 6'2,194 sophomore who saw no action, Austin Stone a 5'11,205 junior who had 8 receptions for 136 yards and one TD, Kevin Davis a former Indiana transfer at 5'11,193 who had 3 receptions for 8 yards, Izaiah Fuller a 6'4, 198 soph with 3 receptions for 8 yards.

Redshirt freshmen are Isaac Holder at 5'11, 165 and Dieuly Aristilde at 6'4, 201. Both played in the spring game and had some nice catches.

The only true incoming scholie frosh is Matt Sexton who could also play RB at 5'11,167. Matt had truly impressive offensive stats for almost four years in high school.

Then we have 3 JUCOs all signed late Antione Porter 5'8 185, Siergio Bailey at 6'0, 186 and John Niupalau at 6'0, 228. It will interesting to see where they fit in depth wise.

We also have two frosh walk ons Keyan Marshall at 6'2, 182 from the NW Ohio area and Tavin Allison 6'1, 187 from Michigan.
08-05-2016 06:37 AM
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Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...
08-05-2016 09:26 AM
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(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.
08-05-2016 11:11 AM
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(08-05-2016 11:11 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.

Wait until I do the offensive line.
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(08-05-2016 11:11 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.

I am trying to remain positive and (generally) optimistic on the football team and on CC, esp. as he is considered a good person, hard worker, etc. etc. BUT the talent acquisition phase has been disappointing.

There are enough high talent teams in the MAC West (E.g., WMU, UT, NIU, etc.) so that coaching alone will not beat them.
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Any hope for Davis to step up?
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(08-05-2016 11:11 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.

We are still paying for the Reed incident and it's aftermath.
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(08-05-2016 11:54 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 11:11 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.

I am trying to remain positive and (generally) optimistic on the football team and on CC, esp. as he is considered a good person, hard worker, etc. etc. BUT the talent acquisition phase has been disappointing.

There are enough high talent teams in the MAC West (E.g., WMU, UT, NIU, etc.) so that coaching alone will not beat them.

I submit that part of the problem with CC is with talent RETENTION Snelling, Collins if they were here on the team we would be having a brighter discussion about the WRs, they had redshirted and learned the system. I don't have an explanation as to why Wilkes signed a LOI and then isn't here outside of the fact that no coach wants a player on the roster who isn't committed to the team. Then there are the 3 star guys who don't turn out like Dillon. When CC got hired some of us expressed a concern that the staff didn't have enough assistant coaches with FBS experience, most had FCS experience we expressed a concern about whether they knew the difference between the players it takes to win at the FBS level. So this year we hired 3 coaches with FBS experience all on defense and what happened? After signing day they around getting more talent because I assume what they saw was a lack of FBS talent on the defense. Makes you think about certain offensive coaches.
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(08-05-2016 11:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Any hope for Davis to step up?

Frank, if there was a category for biggest disappointment last year Davis would rank right up there. 3 star out of high school and a couple of years being coached at the B10 level and we got minimum production.
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(08-05-2016 12:12 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 11:54 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 11:11 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 09:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Wow. Not good.

I learned, I think, that SG and SF are the easiest positions to recruit in college hoops.

In college FB, RB and WRs should be the easiest to recruit.

It's shocking we are so thin at WR in a conference which has been very deep at that position.

Got to get Roback some help...

Wow is right. Right back to the recruiting problems.

Of that entire list, Daugherty, Sexton and Bailey can play. If DeBoer can't find an effective way to use 2 TE's, this offense could go backwards. A lot to expect 2 brand new guys, 1 a true freshman, to come in and make plays right out of the gate.

When talking about dead roster weight, the WR position is a prime example.

Inexcusable for Creighton & Co. to be in this position at WR, 3 years in.

I am trying to remain positive and (generally) optimistic on the football team and on CC, esp. as he is considered a good person, hard worker, etc. etc. BUT the talent acquisition phase has been disappointing.

There are enough high talent teams in the MAC West (E.g., WMU, UT, NIU, etc.) so that coaching alone will not beat them.

I submit that part of the problem with CC is with talent RETENTION Snelling, Collins if they were here on the team we would be having a brighter discussion about the WRs, they had redshirted and learned the system. I don't have an explanation as to why Wilkes signed a LOI and then isn't here outside of the fact that no coach wants a player on the roster who isn't committed to the team. Then there are the 3 star guys who don't turn out like Dillon. When CC got hired some of us expressed a concern that the staff didn't have enough assistant coaches with FBS experience, most had FCS experience we expressed a concern about whether they knew the difference between the players it takes to win at the FBS level. So this year we hired 3 coaches with FBS experience all on defense and what happened? After signing day they around getting more talent because I assume what they saw was a lack of FBS talent on the defense. Makes you think about certain offensive coaches.

You may be on to something 79. Talent evaluation, and player relationships at this level, are an apparent problem.
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Haven't had a decent WR since Deslauriers.
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I think Daugherty has a chance to be reallllyyyy good. Just needs some help around him.
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(08-09-2016 03:52 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Haven't had a decent WR since Deslauriers.

Jacory Stone?
Tyler Jones?
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