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Last paragraphs - Asked by Sunderland why JMU has not been proactive marketing JMU athletics to FBS leagues.

Bourne - '"we have our approach...and we will continue"...

...to do nothing except ask information starved alum for money to build a convo in which to play conference mate, Elon.

Let's give Bourne a hand, he returned a media call. Baby steps.
08-05-2016 05:59 AM
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All you can do is laugh.
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JMU 'Monitoring' Conference Moves

NICK SUNDERLAND Daily News-Record
6 hrs ago


HARRISONBURG — James Madison athletic director Jeff Bourne said he spent last week vacationing in Jackson, Wyo., a picturesque town located just south of Grand Teton National Park and east of the fabled Snake River.


The calm, tranquil setting gave Bourne a much-needed chance to relax, he said.


With the Big 12’s expected conference expansion, in the words of Bourne, “likely to happen sooner rather than later,” the 17th-year athletic director won’t figure to have much downtime in the coming months.



Speaking publicly about conference realignment for the first time since the Big 12 announced its plans last month, Bourne offered few details in regards to Madison’s interest level in making a football-driven move from FCS to FBS.


“We’ll be monitoring very closely as changes continue to happen here in the future,” Bourne said Thursday inside Bridgeforth Stadium’s Club Room.


Most of the 12 schools in the middle-tier American Athletic Conference have expressed interest either publicly or privately in joining the Big 12, according to the Associated Press. First-year Colonial Athletic Association commissioner Joe D’Antonio has said he would be “naïve” to not expect a “trickle-down effect” to impact his league.


“We certainly, again, all acknowledge what’s happening at the national level — and there’s going to be a lot of change,” Bourne said. “I think it’s very difficult for anyone today to predict what that is.”


With its state-of-the art, 25,000-seat football stadium and robust $45 million athletics budget, Madison has the features of an FBS school. And in recent years, JMU has flirted — to varying degrees — with lower-tier FBS leagues Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference and the Sun Belt.


Madison officials have repeatedly stated — without further clarity — that their school is weighing its options in regards to a move to FBS. Bourne declined to say whether talks with other conferences have picked up again since the Big 12’s announcement.


“I’m not going to get into that,” he said. “I’m not going to get into any level of detail, other than just to say we continue to work diligently on our end.”


Under NCAA rules, a move to FBS would require an invitation to join an existing FBS league. Bourne has publicly maintained Madison has never received an FBS invitation.


But what if the Dukes were to get an invite this time around?


“We have done our work and are well prepared to take our information to the board [of visitors] and have them evaluate that, if that opportunity ever arose,” said Bourne, who declined to offer a yes-or-no answer.


The Carr Report, an independent study JMU commissioned to examine the feasibility of a potential move to FBS, concluded in 2013 that the school is ready to make the jump. The much-anticipated report described Madison’s facilities as “among the FCS elite and comparable to its FBS benchmarks.”



JMU is also in the fundraising stages of its push to build a proposed new $88 million basketball arena. The 8,500-seat, campus-friendly facility would replace the aging Convocation Center — and increase Madison’s FBS appeal.


A new state law, which went into effect on July 1 and caps student funding for athletics, complicates a potential move to FBS for JMU, however.


State schools that wish to make the jump to FBS must now first receive approval from the Intercollegiate Athletics Review Commission. Bourne said vice president Charlie King is the JMU legislative representative who would work directly with that committee, should Madison receive an invitation to join an FBS league.


“It’s a requirement that the state legislature be engaged with that process,” Bourne said. “And so, that would certainly be one of the steps that we would be taking and looking at. Whereas four, five years ago, that didn’t exist.”


Schools such as East Carolina and Houston have been aggressive in their pursuit of a Big 12 invitation. Officials from those schools have publicly touted their institution’s candidacy, and each university has mounted visible social-media campaigns.


Bourne was asked why Madison hasn’t taken a more proactive approach in marketing itself publicly to FBS leagues.


“I think there’s a lot of moving parts to that. I think the state legislature is a key part of that,” Bourne said. “We have our approach. … We feel very confident in what we do and how we do it, and we’re going to continue to do that.”
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sounds like deja vu, all over again...
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I think it's a little different this time around- just a sense I get but the timing is better- even though they could and probably should be more vocal about it I think that the JMU admin knows this time it's different too. I don't think they will be left out for a lack of trying.
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http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/monitor

How's it NOT different? Bourne point blank said that if an invitation came our way that it will be presented to the BOV and state commission for approval. You can't be any more direct than that.
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We're f****d
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hazed, what word would you prefer our AD used if he can't use "monitor"? If it upsets you so much, I can ask him if he can use a different word. Sorry he hurt your feelings.
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(08-05-2016 07:06 AM)Potomac Wrote:  http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/monitor

How's it NOT different? Bourne point blank said that if an invitation came our way that it will be presented to the BOV and state commission for approval. You can't be any more direct than that.

In a recent interview Bourne explained that JMU isn't just monitoring they are in constant discussions with other conferences, athletic directors etc.

I also don't think he's ever gone as far as saying that if presented with an opportunity they would take it to the BOV for review and approval. Since the last round of significant conference movement JMU has completed the Carr/FBS feasibility study- an important criteria for JMU to validate a move up. The one item that the Carr report pointed to that JMU needed to address was the basketball arena. Since the time of the last significant conference movement JMU has laid out plans and started fund raising for the new basketball arena.

When asked about why they aren't vocal Bourne suggested state legislature may have something to do with it. When you take a step back other Virginia public colleges that have moved up haven't been vocal either. ODU just moved up without really any public discussion before that. While they have been rumored to be in the mix for the AAC I don't believe they have made any statements on the subject. VCU (just moved up when a viable offer was presented), GMU (just moved up when a viable offer was presented). If anything the statements made before leaving the conference suggested that they were staying not looking to leave. I think the dynamic with the BOV and with the State plays into how JMU presents itself and it's position.
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(08-05-2016 07:42 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  hazed, what word would you prefer our AD used if he can't use "monitor"? If it upsets you so much, I can ask him if he can use a different word. Sorry he hurt your feelings.

Bourne has not, nor can he hurt my feelings. When JMU is left behind athletically (with am unexplained large yet little value-added budget), I will be fine. I have a P5 team/conference to follow and support financially via a graduate school affiliation.

Do I feel the connection to the grad school that I feel for JMU, hell no, I bleed purple. But...(can I use an ellipsis here?) if JMU wants to fill the role of small-time regional university, so be it., we have the admin to stagnate as a university. It is cheaper and easier to be and accept mediocrity.

Watching ODU, App State and others pass JMU (with this admin, are passes academically a matter of time too?) will be painful.

The schools achieving athletic growth/national marketing/alum engagement, EVERY ONE of them have the same academic goals and obstacles as JMU. We are not unique or special. Our peers admins are delivering results, JMU's admin has not.
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(08-05-2016 07:42 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  hazed, what word would you prefer our AD used if he can't use "monitor"? If it upsets you so much, I can ask him if he can use a different word. Sorry he hurt your feelings.

What is more convincing of something actually happening is:

“We’ll be pursuing opportunities as they come available.”

To most folk, "monitoring" indicates that very little is being done other than watching with no other activity and frankly I have little faith that anything more than updating a blackboard with the conferences and their members listed, is being done.

The small amount of hope that I have comes from those like yourself saying that it is, which is not very reassuring.
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You all are exhausting. Yes, Jeff Bourne has moved to Jackson, WY and is just watching Judge Judy all day while eating Bon Bons. Is that what you want the article to say?

Get over yourselves.
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(08-05-2016 07:06 AM)Potomac Wrote:  http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/monitor

How's it NOT different? Bourne point blank said that if an invitation came our way that it will be presented to the BOV and state commission for approval. You can't be any more direct than that.

I agree, I like the direction of this interview. I read this as we are good as gone when it trickles down.
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I actually have to applaud JB's use of the word "monitoring" again. At this point, he knows darn well exactly what he's doing, and that is some Flair-level trolling of this forum. Well played, good sir, well played 04-cheers

I agree that it feels different in terms of JMU's readiness this time. Still don't see where the opportunity will come from, but I agree it won't be for lack of trying.
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I remain mostly silent when it comes to these types of back and forths because some are, rightly, discouraged and dug-in on their perceptions of our administration. I understand the frustration and I really don't want to be the target of anyone's ire. I have often expressed frustration on this board and even wrote the BOV about my lack of confidence in Jon Alger.

However, I can report with certainty that this situation is different. Our administration has not been just monitoring. We (JMU) has been actively working the appropriate channels to make a move. I'm not saying it will happen because ultimately there are other variables in play here. I am saying that I am more than satisfied with our efforts to make a conference move a reality.
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(08-05-2016 08:55 AM)PurpleStreamers Wrote:  I actually have to applaud JB's use of the word "monitoring" again. At this point, he knows darn well exactly what he's doing, and that is some Flair-level trolling of this forum. Well played, good sir, well played 04-cheers

I agree that it feels different in terms of JMU's readiness this time. Still don't see where the opportunity will come from, but I agree it won't be for lack of trying.

I'm not saying the one's of you who believe we are dialing a lot of numbers to let others know we want to be in on their game, are wrong at all, and I very much hope you are right. However, if I don't feel a significant difference now versus a couple years ago, then I don't.

I wish that I could feel it, but no athletic director would have signed a deal to play a home game at Norfolk State if he had any real thoughts that we'd be FBS by the time the game rolled around. Hell, its hard enough to believe he did it with our being a top ranked and one of the best drawing FCS universities. His actions simply speak much louder than anything that he could possibly ever say.
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The sunbelt is the only conference that's added schools lately. JMU isn't accepting an invitation to the Sunbelt. It's been 4 years since any other conference has had membership changes. JMU can't invent open conference positions, so I don't know what you expect them to do other than get out there and network, run the phones, schmooze who they can, build our brand, work on facilities/infrastructure, and monitor what happens. Anyone with a schtick about JMU not doing anything for the last half decade is not in touch with the situation.
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(08-05-2016 09:13 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(08-05-2016 08:55 AM)PurpleStreamers Wrote:  I actually have to applaud JB's use of the word "monitoring" again. At this point, he knows darn well exactly what he's doing, and that is some Flair-level trolling of this forum. Well played, good sir, well played 04-cheers

I agree that it feels different in terms of JMU's readiness this time. Still don't see where the opportunity will come from, but I agree it won't be for lack of trying.

I'm not saying the one's of you who believe we are dialing a lot of numbers to let others know we want to be in on their game, are wrong at all, and I very much hope you are right. However, if I don't feel a significant difference now versus a couple years ago, then I don't.

I wish that I could feel it, but no athletic director would have signed a deal to play a home game at Norfolk State if he had any real thoughts that we'd be FBS by the time the game rolled around. Hell, its hard enough to believe he did it with our being a top ranked and one of the best drawing FCS universities. His actions simply speak much louder than anything that he could possibly ever say.

geez, give the Norfolk St home-home a break. JMU wanted a game in Norfolk and ODU was not going to give us a home-home. Get over it already.
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Oh wow, at first when I read the OP of the article, I thought...wow he really took time into thinking all this up....Then I realized , it was a real article.
I don't know or claim to know all the legalities and procedures for the FBS route...so I wont really comment or throw stones at who is doing or not doing what.

So my question is WHY cant we known as the NDSU of the East ....by winning FCS championships or at least get to the Title game a number of times in a row. One and Done's wont cut it.
I bet if we string a few Deep runs together in the coming years...INVITES WILL COME.
We have a good start the last 2 years and lets not make them a fluke.
I think we have the staff and the team to make a deep run from all I have been reading and hearing this year

Based on all the info about what JMU has we really are a FIT for FBS, we just need more National PR. so that we become a familiar name among the FBS Conferences. and what better way to get that is to be tops in the rankings and deep runs in the playoffs with a NC scattered over the next few years. Let get the Nation talking about us!

just my 3 cents

Oh and who scheduled the MEET the Dukes day? Cause the Cheerleaders won't be there, to help and participate like they do every year. They will be in Myrtle Beach at NCA Cheer Camp, vying for another GOLD Bid for Nationals.
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Why aren't we making deep playoff runs? We don't have a defense. Defense is the difference against quality teams.
Why aren't we winning national championships? North Dakota State is why.
We are about as household of a name as an FCS team can be. We are one of two programs to be featured on college game day.
History has shown that FBS conferences couldn't care less about your on the field productivity at the FCS/I-AA level. It is not a factor what so ever in their decision process.
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