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What all of this speculation means is that no one knows what is going to happen,including the Big 12 leadership.
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(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

It's not new either. It was stated in the Feb letter to the Big 12 exp. committee. Actually, the letter stated FedEx would offset a portion of the cost for the duration of the current contract.

https://www.scribd.com/document/31886842...from_embed
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and i doubt fedex give memphis 20 mil a year, but likely the reduced share the big 12 was liklely going to give them, probably around 8-10 mil a year
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(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.
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(08-03-2016 03:40 PM)UCBEast Wrote:  As soon as I saw the title of this I lol'd. Chip Brown hasn't been a world beater or very accurate since his step dad left UT as head coach.

Plus what part of 'heading east' for schools makes sense by constantly including BYU? I've maintained all along that adding them to the B12 would be adding another drama queen, what with their demands, constant proselytizing and self promotion. Won't even get to their academics. And does the B12 really need more Bayloresce issues?

Chip brown as in mack brown. Lmao. Good grief man, if id known that i wouldn't have listened to a word from this clown.
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(08-03-2016 03:54 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:47 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  It's hard to come away from that without thinking that the B12 is using Memphis to lower the bar financially and that the B12 will ultimately go elsewhere.

I think you mean set the bar. Good luck with the later.

Yeah, it's not a new concept or a last ditch effort, but something that's been in the works for a while (put on paper in Feb, but from the tone of the two letters seems to have been discussed prior to that date). It wouldn't surprise me if the other candidates have been asked how they plan to offset partial monies as well.
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The timeline of all this just seems so crazy. BYU was talking about a big announcement August 1st, then the rumor was an expansion announcement was coming right after the AAC media days. Yesterday a so called expansion expert was tweeting that his OU sources said an announcement was going to be made by August 14th. Now today I see the quote by Bowlsby stating the league is still exploring expansion and he has no idea if the plan can be complete before the start of the football season. What is left to explore? I doubt anything is holding it up from the candidate side.

I think this may end up being the only true sticking point and it goes back to what the Iowa State AD mentioned.

6) Oklahoma and ESPN will get on board with whoever texas wants as long as texas agrees to a GoR extension or something to ensure they dont leave.


IMO this is the only thing holding an announcement back and the schools and money has already been decided.
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(08-03-2016 03:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  [Image: i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F0630%2Fncf_u_big...;amp;w=570]

More Chip Brown, talks about Houston and UCF:

http://am1300thezone.iheart.com/media/play/27198718/

This is good.

If Houston does join the Big12 I expect Baylor/Waco and TT/Lubbock to become the bottom feeders of the league just like they were in the SWC.
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(08-03-2016 05:13 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  [Image: i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F0630%2Fncf_u_big...;amp;w=570]

More Chip Brown, talks about Houston and UCF:

http://am1300thezone.iheart.com/media/play/27198718/

This is good.

If Houston does join the Big12 I expect Baylor/Waco and TT/Lubbock to become the bottom feeders of the league just like they were in the SWC.

That's what they are afraid of.
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(08-03-2016 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.

So why did not Fedex do this to get Memphis into the Big East when UC, UL, and USF got in?
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(08-03-2016 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.

FefEc also paid 100 million dollats to get the Grizzles to Memphis. Team owner put that money in his pocket.
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Source from BYU AD says "BYU is in! You can take it to the Bank!"
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(08-03-2016 03:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  Is it just me or does that not even seem legal with what FedEx is doing to get Memphis in?

Doesn't FedEx have a board of directors? Are the shareholders happy that their dividends are going to the Big XII?

Good for U of Memphis.
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again, as long as they go to four its UC, Memphis, BYU, and UH,
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(08-03-2016 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  CougarWire
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Source from BYU AD says "BYU is in! You can take it to the Bank!"

Similar tweets circling yesterday saying that UC tendered its notice to the AAC yesterday. Just more twitter nonsense.
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(08-03-2016 05:19 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.

So why did not Fedex do this to get Memphis into the Big East when UC, UL, and USF got in?

The big east sucked?
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(08-03-2016 03:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:24 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  Is it just me or does that not even seem legal with what FedEx is doing to get Memphis in?

Ya im not sure how investors are ok with just giving $20 million to a school.

Since it's already one of the major commercial sponsors of sporting events in the US, I imagine FedEx is business-savvy enough to know what it's doing:

"It's also self-interest to the core. Fred Smith isn't some wild-eyed booster. He's not some over-the-top, pom-pom waving Memphis fan. As FedEx vice president Alan Graf told WREG-TV, "We'll get a return on our investment. We know how to market and we know how to get a return for our shareholders on our investment. It's not just a charitable act on our part."

Beyond that, why is not ok for Memphis to have money backing its bid when every other decision in college sports--or virtually all sports for that matter--is nowadays based on money?

"Money has moved Maryland into the Big 10 and moved Texas A&M into the SEC. Money has destroyed New Year's Day. Money is the reason there wasn't a real playoff for decades, and it's the reason the playoff is now limited to just four teams.

Money is the reason for every single realignment decision since the realignment era began. But FedEx's money is worth singling out?"

http://www.commercialappeal.com/columnis...25972.html
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Business judgment rule. If it makes reasonable business sense to those in charge to invest in that title game for 20 years, so be it.
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(08-03-2016 06:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 05:19 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.

So why did not Fedex do this to get Memphis into the Big East when UC, UL, and USF got in?

The big east sucked?

Now that is funny since Memphis did everything they could to get in and were sent away. The crying by your administrators and fans was epic. You remember that don't you troll boy?
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(08-03-2016 06:08 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 06:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 05:19 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-03-2016 03:44 PM)Borncoog74 Wrote:  While not paid to keep them in the PAC, this is no different than the $$$ Nike used to fund Oregon.

The CCG sponsorship is nothing new. And is probably comparable to the $$ used on similar naming rights for CCG's and Bowls.

I don't see the big deal.

Right. That point above about Memphis and FedEx is misstated. Fred Smith is giving ZERO personal money to Memphis. FedEx is giving ZERO corporate money directly to Memphis. That support would come in other ways that benefit Memphis' expenditures or revenue streams, like paying for upgrades to the stadium and putting the FedEx name on it, etc. Nothing whatsoever that the board would look down on.

The FedEx marketing pledge is for a LOT of money to the Big 12, for much longer than the length of the current contract, but it is sports marketing money only. It goes directly to the TV networks, and essentially makes the contracts worth more with Memphis included, by the amount that FedEx would spend over what Fox or ESPN would normally expect to take in.

And it is much more than sponsoring a CCG. It includes basketball and other Big 12 sports, and is for regular season, as well as CCGs. Essentially, the Big 12 would become sponsored by FedEx, but still leave a way for other ads to be sold, so no revenue from elsewhere is excluded.

For an idea of how much that would be, google FedEx's annual sports marketing budget, and then move a chunk of it over to the Big 12. Nothing illegal about it. Nothing wrong with it. FedEx Board approved it.

As for Memphis volunteering to take no pay for 2 years, and let FedEx fund them, that is inaccurate, as well. The offer was to take AAC level pay for 2 years, which we can do, since we would be doing that, anyway, in this conference, followed by a typical phase-in, or better.

And we are not the only school offering to do that, lol.

The other money being funded by and for the University of Memphis is completely separate from FedEx, but still a part of our proposal to the Big 12. We are in the beginning of a 5-year campaign to spend $500M on infrastructure, most on campus, but some in the university district around the campus (retail establishments around campus, apartment complexes, etc.)

This is being funded partly by public money (local/state/fed) and partly by private money. It also includes money to buy additional land to expand the campus footprint.

Then, in the master plan, but not yet publicly announced, is another $500M plan for the five years following, to continue more of the same.

So why did not Fedex do this to get Memphis into the Big East when UC, UL, and USF got in?

The big east sucked?

Now that is funny since Memphis did everything they could to get in and were sent away. The crying by your administrators and fans was epic. You remember that don't you troll boy?

They mighta cried. Money and bcs. I didnt. Didnt care either way. Rutger, pitt, uconn, wvu football may turn your crank...not mine. Weak teams that have done nothing since the big east broke up. Just like everybody suspected.

Ps. Better keep gunter on the bench this year.
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