SylvaniaRocket
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David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
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eastisbest
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
Didn't read duh'local article but, New Rival huh? Everyone wants to jump on our ship.
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Terry
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
Toledo is the measurement.
Everybody plays their "A Game" versus the Rockets.....
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DetroitRocket
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
Western is not a rival. They have won exactly one MAC football title (a tie) in their long history in the league. We don't have a football rival unless they win. When Fleck leaves after this season they will revert to being a doormat.
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Nick in Cleveland
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
Obviously BG is Toledos biggest rivalry and that will never change, clearly NIU is divisions biggest rival for obvious reasons. If you look over the past 35 years Central would be considered UTs biggest West rival. Western doesn't register.
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NIU007
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
You guys are right popular as rivals. Is there anyone you AREN'T a rival of?
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RangerRocket
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 02:29 PM)NIU007 Wrote: You guys are right popular as rivals. Is there anyone you AREN'T a rival of?
Nope, just NIU...
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NIU007
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 03:17 PM)RangerRocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 02:29 PM)NIU007 Wrote: You guys are right popular as rivals. Is there anyone you AREN'T a rival of?
Nope, just NIU...
Touche'.
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Rocket75
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
To be a rivalry each of the teams needs to win now and then. Thus, Toledo v NIU is not a rivalry since NIU always wins. Similarly, Toledo v BGSU can no longer be a rivalry since Toledo always wins.
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Boca Rocket
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 04:30 PM)Rocket75 Wrote: To be a rivalry each of the teams needs to win now and then. Thus, Toledo v NIU is not a rivalry since NIU always wins. Similarly, Toledo v BGSU can no longer be a rivalry since Toledo always wins.
UT vs NIU:
UT 29 Win(.674) NIU 14 Wins(.326)
Largest Margin of Victory(2007) UT 70 NIU 21
Longest Win Streak UT 11(1990-2004) NIU 6(2010-2015)
Bowl Games UT 15 NIU 11
Bowl Win%: UT(.667) NIU(.364)
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Boca Rocket
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 12:09 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote: Obviously BG is Toledos biggest rivalry and that will never change, clearly NIU is divisions biggest rival for obvious reasons. If you look over the past 35 years Central would be considered UTs biggest West rival. Western doesn't register.
I think the BGSU rivalry will be done within the next 10 years.
Quicker, if winning becomes a crime against the State.
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San Giuseppe Jato Rocket
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 07:50 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 12:09 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote: Obviously BG is Toledos biggest rivalry and that will never change, clearly NIU is divisions biggest rival for obvious reasons. If you look over the past 35 years Central would be considered UTs biggest West rival. Western doesn't register.
I think the BGSU rivalry will be done within the next 10 years.
Quicker, if winning becomes a crime against the State.
Just because we switch conferences and BG goes FCS doesn't mean we won't play the Falcons.
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Rocket Pirate
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 07:50 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 12:09 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote: Obviously BG is Toledos biggest rivalry and that will never change, clearly NIU is divisions biggest rival for obvious reasons. If you look over the past 35 years Central would be considered UTs biggest West rival. Western doesn't register.
I think the BGSU rivalry will be done within the next 10 years.
Quicker, if winning becomes a crime against the State.
Then you're predicting the end of the MAC within the next 10 years, which is not the craziest of thoughts. Though I think a likelier scenario would be a new FBS/DI with just the power conferences, then a reshaped FCS/1AA, with some of the lower-budget teams already in FCS/1AA being merged with DII or dropping scholarships and being merged with DIII. If that happens, then I can see the MAC staying together in FCS/1AA and the UT/BG rivalry living on as long as neither athletic department drops a bunch of sports or goes non-scholarship.
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Terry
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-04-2016 12:21 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 07:50 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 12:09 PM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote: Obviously BG is Toledos biggest rivalry and that will never change, clearly NIU is divisions biggest rival for obvious reasons. If you look over the past 35 years Central would be considered UTs biggest West rival. Western doesn't register.
I think the BGSU rivalry will be done within the next 10 years.
Quicker, if winning becomes a crime against the State.
Just because we switch conferences and BG goes FCS doesn't mean we won't play the Falcons.
4 or 5 to 1........
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NIU007
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RE: David Briggs: Fleck, Candle add to rivalry of of UT, WMU
(08-03-2016 07:46 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: (08-03-2016 04:30 PM)Rocket75 Wrote: To be a rivalry each of the teams needs to win now and then. Thus, Toledo v NIU is not a rivalry since NIU always wins. Similarly, Toledo v BGSU can no longer be a rivalry since Toledo always wins.
UT vs NIU:
UT 29 Win(.674) NIU 14 Wins(.326)
Largest Margin of Victory(2007) UT 70 NIU 21
Longest Win Streak UT 11(1990-2004) NIU 6(2010-2015)
Bowl Games UT 15 NIU 11
Bowl Win%: UT(.667) NIU(.364)
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