(07-31-2016 09:43 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:26 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 05:32 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:57 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  UC and BYU are the two no-brainers. This is why I think you will only see the Big 12 invite those two for now.

I just read the Memphis board.

Memphis has had an invitation for awhile now. In fact, they are the first school in the Big 12, ahead of Cincy, BYU and everyone else.

Well there are only 2 people saying that....

Pickwicktiger who I have no idea who he is....

Tigerscane, who is the Eddie Mush of the Tigers, and makes about 2000 predictions a month and when he gets completely lucky and actually gets a prediction right, spends the next several years saying "remember when I said Paxton Lynch was going to be good" (of course he said the exact same thing about every single player on the team so he had to get atleast one right).

You need to get out more if you think only 2 people have been saying that.

It is now proven you have a problem with reading comprehension...

The entire comment was based on the Memphis BOARD not the entire UNIVERSE.

Good luck with life, you are now on my ignore.

If Cincy is in and the Big 12 is only adding two, then it has to be Cincy + Houston.

Otherwise, no expansion.

There will be no expansion without Houston State leadership has said this UT got inline because the internal state politics, there may be no expansion period, UT is not about to put mud on the Governors face and make him look like a fool when he stated "expansion without Houston is a non-starter". I hear folks saying the Big 12 is not controlled by UT then I see the same argument made before expansion was announced, saying the B12 does not exist without Texas can't have it both ways. Which means the B12 needs the single most powerful athletic department in NCAA to be relevant and they do. Texas is not going to risk looking weak by throwing considerable influence behind a team they said they they are in support of being the B12. President Fenves said in a tweet, "we look at opportunities for Big 12 expansion, I support considering Houston for the conference. UH is a huge asset for Texas". Asset means the Governors wants to increase the value of that asset by having Houston in the B12 is my interpretation that last part of the statement, its part of the Governors promise to make Houston a world class university. Read this anyway you want. It's UT stating what they want if expansion happens they never mentioned any other team publicly except for one.

I think Houston was screwed so hard during the formation of the original Big 12 that I can't help but root for them getting an invite here. They deserve it, IMO.

I just don't think they make quite as much financial sense as some of the others. However, as you stated, every decision the Big 12 makes seems to be at least tangentally connected to Texas politics and there's no reason to think this one would be any different. Unfortunately, good politics and common sense very often don't intertwine.

If they do decide to go to 14 schools and if they do decide to add Houston, BYU and Cincinnati as three of those schools; I think it would be wise for them to look west for the final school. Colorado State perhaps? Boise State may be another? If you're going to add western schools you might as well commit to it. West Virginia would already have a travel partner in Cincinnati.

(07-31-2016 05:32 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:57 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  UC and BYU are the two no-brainers. This is why I think you will only see the Big 12 invite those two for now.

I just read the Memphis board.

Memphis has had an invitation for awhile now. In fact, they are the first school in the Big 12, ahead of Cincy, BYU and everyone else.

Which they're going to accept on Tuesday, right?

Can't ignore the enormous Northeast presence $$$ UConn will bring if invited to the big12.

If 4, I still believe these here bellow are the chosen ones

BYU
Houston
Cincinnati
UConn

(07-31-2016 11:16 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't ignore the enormous Northeast presence $$$ UConn will bring if invited to the big12.

If 4, I still believe these here bellow are the chosen ones

BYU
Houston
Cincinnati
UConn

Agree, but I think BYU will be football-only. 13 isn't a problem for other sports.

(07-31-2016 08:32 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 05:54 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  How much longer do we have to wait? I want to get back to my normal life. Expansion keeps sucking me in. I just wanna check in every couple months and say, oh CCU is in the SBC, oh UCSD finally moved to D-I. Oh ITT Tech is in the AAC now.

I bet this is wrapped up by the middle of the month or sooner.

In regard to the B12, I agree, unless there's a lot of state political wrangling going on behind the scenes. G5 realignment will likely take a while longer to settle out.

Looking like Cincy and Memphis are set.

Do they stop there?

Have they worked out a deal for BYU?

Should be interesting

(07-31-2016 11:16 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't ignore the enormous Northeast presence $$$ UConn will bring if invited to the big12.

If 4, I still believe these here bellow are the chosen ones

BYU
Houston
Cincinnati
UConn

I think it's Memphis and not UConn.

It's a clear delineation and one is going to be utterly wrong and embarrassed. We'll all know soon. Then the loser can slink away looking idiotic and the winner can gloat.

(07-31-2016 12:35 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Looking like Cincy and Memphis are set.

Do they stop there?

Have they worked out a deal for BYU?

Should be interesting

For 12 teams Memphis and Cincy wouldn't be bad. I think CSU is my favorite candidate but I don't see them getting in unless we go to 14.

(07-31-2016 09:39 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:34 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Beverly Davenport ‏@UCPrezDav 3h3 hours ago
Thanks to all our UC fans for standing tall with us. #PawsUp ?

Congrats, Cincy fans!

That is such a generic tweet, you'd have to do some serious digging to find any specific meaning.

Exactly. It makes sense whether UC gets or does not get a Big 12 bid.

(07-31-2016 12:35 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Looking like Cincy and Memphis are set.

Do they stop there?

Have they worked out a deal for BYU?

Should be interesting

My fat a$$ Memphis is set!!

(07-31-2016 12:36 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 11:16 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't ignore the enormous Northeast presence $$$ UConn will bring if invited to the big12.

If 4, I still believe these here bellow are the chosen ones

BYU
Houston
Cincinnati
UConn

I think it's Memphis and not UConn.

It's a clear delineation and one is going to be utterly wrong and embarrassed. We'll all know soon. Then the loser can slink away looking idiotic and the winner can gloat.

Of course you do.

Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

(07-31-2016 01:21 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

This is a fair assessment. I know TripleA is representing his Tigers in a proud manner on these boards but I still having found a source that validates his claims Memphis is investing 1 billion dollars in facility upgrades. I found 500 million but I can't find the other 500 mil.

I think it's clear who the most attractive and least attractive candidates. What we don't know is what the Big 12 presidents are putting the most emphasis on regarding these candidates.

(07-31-2016 01:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:21 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

This is a fair assessment. I know TripleA is representing his Tigers in a proud manner on these boards but I still having found a source that validates his claims Memphis is investing 1 billion dollars in facility upgrades. I found 500 million but I can't find the other 500 mil.

I think it's clear who the most attractive and least attractive candidates. What we don't know is what the Big 12 presidents are putting the most emphasis on regarding these candidates.

Not to pick nits or anything, but if were so clear why aren't we all agreeing on who those are?

(07-31-2016 01:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:21 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

This is a fair assessment. I know TripleA is representing his Tigers in a proud manner on these boards but I still having found a source that validates his claims Memphis is investing 1 billion dollars in facility upgrades. I found 500 million but I can't find the other 500 mil.

I think it's clear who the most attractive and least attractive candidates. What we don't know is what the Big 12 presidents are putting the most emphasis on regarding these candidates.

Not to pick nits or anything, but if were so clear why aren't we all agreeing on who those are?

I think its much easier to agree on 2 than 4. I'm sure the big 12 presidents probably feel the same. After BYU and Cincy you are basically rolling the dice. However I think 3 and 4 are relatively easy if you base it off intangibles....UCONN is clearly the best brand left outside of BYU and Houston probably has the most football potential of everyone. I don't see how UH, Cincy, UCONN, and BYU aren't the best candidates available athletically and academically. All BYU fits and the other 3 have warts but I don't think this is really debatable these are clearly the best 4 schools available to them not in a p5 conference. Granted i'm not a president but those 4 seem like easy picks to me. I don't think you can concern yourself with geography if the big 12 wants to remain viable you select the best 2 to 4 options available. Again how is this debatable?

Houston
Cincy
UCONN
BYU

(07-31-2016 01:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:21 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

This is a fair assessment. I know TripleA is representing his Tigers in a proud manner on these boards but I still having found a source that validates his claims Memphis is investing 1 billion dollars in facility upgrades. I found 500 million but I can't find the other 500 mil.

I think it's clear who the most attractive and least attractive candidates. What we don't know is what the Big 12 presidents are putting the most emphasis on regarding these candidates.

Not to pick nits or anything, but if were so clear why aren't we all agreeing on who those are?

The presidents of the Big 12 universities know who they are. Do you really expect peoplewith a vested interest on a message board to agree?

(07-31-2016 01:53 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:21 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Like Frank the Tank said think like a University President, my thinking it will be UConn a state flagship university high academics in comparison to Memphis, who's average at best. UConn has an elite BB program won several NCAA basketball championship. With said that if the B12 does expand by 4 and one is Memphis and not UConn, then I believe it's a money grab (concerning the rumor Fedex Chairman is offering in return for a Memphis invite) by UT/OU which Does not forebode well for the future for them staying in the B12. Much I have said, UT isn't going anywhere.

This is a fair assessment. I know TripleA is representing his Tigers in a proud manner on these boards but I still having found a source that validates his claims Memphis is investing 1 billion dollars in facility upgrades. I found 500 million but I can't find the other 500 mil.

I think it's clear who the most attractive and least attractive candidates. What we don't know is what the Big 12 presidents are putting the most emphasis on regarding these candidates.

Not to pick nits or anything, but if were so clear why aren't we all agreeing on who those are?

The presidents of the Big 12 universities know who they are. Do you really expect peoplewith a vested interest on a message board to agree?

I think they know who's on their short list and who meets their criteria. I just don't believe at all geography will play a factor. They will select the best available options who can help them continue to build their league. If they go 2 then UC/UH and BYU. If they go 4 no way you pass up on a state flagship in UCONN who has a unbelievable brand who can help the basketball side pairing them with KU. They don't really need UCONN to be good in football. They have plenty of football schools already in the league. I'm not a UCONN fan by any stretch but the big 12 would be foolish not to want what they bring in mens and women basketball plus their other olympic sports. UCONN has the best package for that as well. UCONN as a whole is a p5 level program I can't say the same about some of the others....UC was extremely successful in the big east and Houston is just waiting to take off. Thats why the middle of the pack teams fear houston joining.