Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

i think his comments on the Houston politicians would be sent if they werent brick wall coomments..

utah and nc's governor made comments but they were more " youd benefit from adding them" or i recommend these teams

their comments were houston is in or no one gets in...
i dont get how it helps politically to make that bold a statement and to not have it fall through. it would make them look weak

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

Don't believe is the accusations you speak. USF has never been on probation and we still have to wait on this accusation while others have been on probation in recent years.
The reason UCF is mentioned is because in past 5 years they have had more football success including the BCS bowl win so they have been more up front center in the media talking heads. In order to see what USF offers you need to go deeper than what you have done in football lately.
I do agree with him that because of geography it will be difficult for B12 to just add one if they decide they want to compete for the Florida market

Losing the Florida Twins is fine by me.

But its not going to happen. Its going to be UH and BYU

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

USF hasn't taken a back seat to them athletically. By any metric, USF crushes them head to head. I will give credit to UCF for an impressive BCS bowl win, but you should also remember they weren't even ranked in the top25 to start the following season. I think this year again they were lower half of the American Cup standings. What makes them interesting is their size. That's what the outside world obsesses with. The fact is both schools are huge. Both schools are larger than every team in the B12 today but UCF is the one repeatedly talked about for their size.

(07-30-2016 09:20 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

USF hasn't taken a back seat to them athletically. By any metric, USF crushes them head to head. I will give credit to UCF for an impressive BCS bowl win, but you should also remember they weren't even ranked in the top25 to start the following season. I think this year again they were lower half of the American Cup standings. What makes them interesting is their size. That's what the outside world obsesses with. The fact is both schools are huge. Both schools are larger than every team in the B12 today but UCF is the one repeatedly talked about for their size.

I always forget that preseason and mid season rankings are more important than post season rankings.

(07-30-2016 08:21 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  Losing the Florida Twins is fine by me.

But its not going to happen. Its going to be UH and BYU

Bingo, bango.

As much as I'd like us both to go, I'm remaining skeptical. The B12 presidents are as unpredictable as a scorned ex girlfriend.

(07-30-2016 09:20 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

USF hasn't taken a back seat to them athletically. By any metric, USF crushes them head to head. I will give credit to UCF for an impressive BCS bowl win, but you should also remember they weren't even ranked in the top25 to start the following season. I think this year again they were lower half of the American Cup standings. What makes them interesting is their size. That's what the outside world obsesses with. The fact is both schools are huge. Both schools are larger than every team in the B12 today but UCF is the one repeatedly talked about for their size.

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(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

UCF has been on NCAA probation for the last 5 years AND IS STILL ON PROBATION.

(07-30-2016 09:42 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Very interesting comments by McMurphy. Basically, he said that the talk in Texas for Houston was all political show to cover their butts. He does still like Houston (and Cincy) to get in. He also likes UCF and USF as a pair to the Big 12.

http://www.espn929.com/pages/22826948.ph...d=18809216

On why the Big 12 decided to expand: “When this first came out last Tuesday and they said they were gonna be looking at expansion again, kinda the message I said over the next coming weeks and months, there are going to be hundreds of reports about School A or School B being the favorites or a lock to get in and they are all gonna be 1000 percent inaccurate. The reason is because the presidents don’t know what they want. They weren’t going to expand until they found out that the ACC Network was gonna be launched in 2019 and so they kinda reacted to that. It was literally that much of a knee-jerk reaction. They don’t know what they’re gonna do.”

On who the Big 12 is going to add: “I do not know, because the best way to kinda describe the process is: If you’re picking the at-large field for the NCAA Tournament, what do you value the most? Is it last 10, RPI, strength of schedule, conference — whatever factors you wanna include. Picking these teams for expansion, what is their priority? Academics, last 10 years, on-the-field success, future success, TV market, geography? Whatever your categories are, is it column A, column B, C and D, etc? Ultimately, we don’t know what they value the most. So it’s impossible to figure out exactly what they want.”

On what he's heard about specific schools: “Some people think Houston is a lock to get in. Others I talk to say Houston’s not gonna get in and that all these politicians coming out and supporting Houston — they’re doing that so that they’ll be re-elected or so they won’t be blackballed down the road. I’ve been told they’re doing that because they know privately Houston won’t get in because either the private Texas schools will block them or the non-Texas schools in the Big 12 don’t want another Texas school in. A lot of people think Cincinnati’s got a good shot because they serve for that bridge to West Virginia. I talk to other people who aren’t that high on Cincinnati.”

On UCF: "Promising program. Sexy Florida program, can get into the state of Florida recruiting-wise. For a team that went 0-12 last year, they get a lot of buzz. The Orlando market obviously is a positive. That’s good. Negative: You’re kind of out on an island like West Virginia. It doesn’t help West Virginia to add UCF because it’s not really on the way to the other group of Big 12 schools. I really think the best chance for UCF to get in is if the presidents decide they want the Florida market. And then I think UCF and USF both have the best chance. … I would be surprised if they add just one of them. If you add both of them, you would guarantee one game in Florida every year, you would open up the Florida recruiting area to the whole Big 12, so I kinda pair them together.”

On his official Big 12 expansion prediction: “If they go two schools, I think it’s probably going to be Cincinnati and Houston. You need eight of 10 votes to get in. You only need three no votes to block somebody. I think somehow someway Houston gets in, and I think Cincinnati just because they’ve had more recent success and they redid Nippert Stadium.”

This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

UCF has been on NCAA probation for the last 5 years AND IS STILL ON PROBATION.

You be nice. We are life partners in the Big 12.

(07-30-2016 09:55 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:42 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  This seems to confirm a tweet some one else just posted a thread about.

UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

UCF has been on NCAA probation for the last 5 years AND IS STILL ON PROBATION.

You be nice. We are life partners in the Big 12.

I'd put up with all your fleas if we both got in.

(07-30-2016 12:14 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:55 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:42 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:12 AM)otown Wrote:  UH, UC, UCF, and USF are fine by me

just curious...... despite the 0-12 season last year..... how did USF take such a back seat to UCF? I guess the BCS appearance and win really put the program on another level perception wise. Its like they are completely ignored when talk about one school from Florida is discussed, and only get brought up if there is talk of pairing UCF with someone.

Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

UCF has been on NCAA probation for the last 5 years AND IS STILL ON PROBATION.

You be nice. We are life partners in the Big 12.

I'd put up with all your fleas if we both got in.

I'll bring the lysol to disinfect all your fans. We are good.

(07-30-2016 12:29 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 12:14 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:55 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:42 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:22 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  Very good question. My guess is the recent academic fraud accusation.

UCF has been on NCAA probation for the last 5 years AND IS STILL ON PROBATION.

You be nice. We are life partners in the Big 12.

I'd put up with all your fleas if we both got in.

I'll bring the lysol to disinfect all your fans. We are good.

I'll bring bottles of water to the bounce house in case your fans get thirsty.

I would lol if it was USF and UCF over everyone else to the Big12. LOL but in a good way though.

(07-30-2016 04:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I would lol if it was USF and UCF over everyone else to the Big12. LOL but in a good way though.

Maybe there's hope cause the B12 hasn't done anything right in years and especially considering realignment.