(07-31-2016 09:10 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:51 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:37 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:36 AM)panama Wrote:  Many public universities have this model. Penn State and USCe just to mention two. But usually the acceptance rate and graduation rate is for the main 4 year university not including the 2 year unit.

That's what I said

You said team up as In GSU used to team up (partner) with Georgia Permeter College. We have since absorbed them and they are now a 2 year unit of GSU.

Same thing

Um no...partnering is not the same as merging with and running a 2 year school under your corporate umbrella.

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Without including it in your 4 year acceptance rate. Picking out the important details is a main asset of critical thinking

(07-31-2016 09:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:45 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  What bowl game did the almighty top 25 hilltoppers go to last year?

WKU played in the Miami Beach Bowl against USF. WKU won 45-35.

What bowl game did ECU play in last year? Oh, sorry....you didn't. With only 7 winning seasons out of your last 15 seasons, I know it's hard for ECU to keep track of whether you played in a Bowl last year. Winning only 2 of your last 9 Bowl games, it's probably good ya'll didn't get to play in a Bowl last year.

When was the last time ECU was in the Top 25?...oh, sorry....it's been 21 years. Heck, ya'll have only been ranked 3 years out of the last 50 years.

But hey, ya'll have lots of fans. You got us there. Woohoo!!!

Lol 12-2 and Miami Beach Bowl. Is that the biggest bowl WKU has played in?

We've been to a bowl 8 of the past 10 seasons. The fact we fired our coach for not making a bowl with his 4th string qb should let you know that we usually make a bowl game.

We were in the top 25 year before last, top 15 I believe.

Ranked 3 of the past 7 years

My apologies. I should have been more clear. I should have said "Final Polls". ECU hasn't finished in the Final Polls in 21 years and only finished in the Final Polls 3 times in 50 years.

Yes, you've been to 15 Bowls in 50 years, only winning 2 of the last 9 and only winning 6 of the 15.

WKU has only been FBS for 7 years. We have been Bowl eligible for the last 5, however, we've only been to 3 Bowls in those 5 years because the SBC didn't have enough Bowl tie-ins. We are 2-1 in our Bowl games.

(07-31-2016 09:26 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:45 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  What bowl game did the almighty top 25 hilltoppers go to last year?

WKU played in the Miami Beach Bowl against USF. WKU won 45-35.

What bowl game did ECU play in last year? Oh, sorry....you didn't. With only 7 winning seasons out of your last 15 seasons, I know it's hard for ECU to keep track of whether you played in a Bowl last year. Winning only 2 of your last 9 Bowl games, it's probably good ya'll didn't get to play in a Bowl last year.

When was the last time ECU was in the Top 25?...oh, sorry....it's been 21 years. Heck, ya'll have only been ranked 3 years out of the last 50 years.

But hey, ya'll have lots of fans. You got us there. Woohoo!!!

Lol 12-2 and Miami Beach Bowl. Is that the biggest bowl WKU has played in?

We've been to a bowl 8 of the past 10 seasons. The fact we fired our coach for not making a bowl with his 4th string qb should let you know that we usually make a bowl game.

We were in the top 25 year before last, top 15 I believe.

Ranked 3 of the past 7 years

My apologies. I should have been more clear. I should have said "Final Polls". ECU hasn't finished in the Final Polls in 21 years and only finished in the Final Polls 3 times in 50 years.

Yes, you've been to 15 Bowls in 50 years, only winning 2 of the last 9 and only winning 6 of the 15.

WKU has only been FBS for 7 years. We have been Bowl eligible for the last 5, however, we've only been to 3 Bowls in those 5 years because the SBC didn't have enough Bowl tie-ins. We are 2-1 in our Bowl games.

Both are fine programs

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(07-31-2016 09:26 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 09:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:45 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  What bowl game did the almighty top 25 hilltoppers go to last year?

WKU played in the Miami Beach Bowl against USF. WKU won 45-35.

What bowl game did ECU play in last year? Oh, sorry....you didn't. With only 7 winning seasons out of your last 15 seasons, I know it's hard for ECU to keep track of whether you played in a Bowl last year. Winning only 2 of your last 9 Bowl games, it's probably good ya'll didn't get to play in a Bowl last year.

When was the last time ECU was in the Top 25?...oh, sorry....it's been 21 years. Heck, ya'll have only been ranked 3 years out of the last 50 years.

But hey, ya'll have lots of fans. You got us there. Woohoo!!!

Lol 12-2 and Miami Beach Bowl. Is that the biggest bowl WKU has played in?

We've been to a bowl 8 of the past 10 seasons. The fact we fired our coach for not making a bowl with his 4th string qb should let you know that we usually make a bowl game.

We were in the top 25 year before last, top 15 I believe.

Ranked 3 of the past 7 years

My apologies. I should have been more clear. I should have said "Final Polls". ECU hasn't finished in the Final Polls in 21 years and only finished in the Final Polls 3 times in 50 years.

Yes, you've been to 15 Bowls in 50 years, only winning 2 of the last 9 and only winning 6 of the 15.

WKU has only been FBS for 7 years. We have been Bowl eligible for the last 5, however, we've only been to 3 Bowls in those 5 years because the SBC didn't have enough Bowl tie-ins. We are 2-1 in our Bowl games.

Most of ECU'S bowl games have been against good BCS teams. Not CMU or AAC USF.

WKU finished ranked 24th in one poll. Hardly something to brag about.

And ECU would've been to a lot more bowls but we were independent for the 80's and 90's and only made a bowl when ranked.

For example in 1983 we went 8-3 with losses on the road at #7 Florida State 47-46, at #6 Florida 24-17, and at #5 and eventual national champions Miami 12-7.

We should've beaten Miami if not for a freak play at the end of the game. ECU was not invited to a bowl game despite finishing the season ranked 20th

I know this is the AAC Board, so forgive my visits and comments. 1st - WKU and our fans would LOVE to be in your Conference. We're very happy to be in C-USA though. 2nd - I think our chances of getting in are slim if an opening occurs. 3rd - We are building a fantastic Athletic Program. The goal is to be the Boise St of FB and Gonzaga of BB...It CAN happen! 4th - We just need to take care of business and win while continuing to build our fan base. 5th and lastly - Here is a NEWSBREAK for some of you who think your **** doesn't stink...Those left behind are STILL going to be on the outside looking in, including YOU!!

#GoTops

BTW...I hope we see some of you on the field...We'll SMOKE YOUR ASS!!

Thanks for letting me visit. ?

(07-30-2016 05:56 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:28 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:16 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:21 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:15 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  Rice doesn't suck in football. They are 36-36 over the past 6 years with 2 CUSA West titles. Don't say CUSA sucks, they can only play the schedule that they have. They are in Houston, a top 5 market and their academics are Ivy League good and also have AAU status. Take out 2011 and 2012 and they are 30-22. Rice is a lock....

That post could only have come from a Tulane fan.

Did you read the part about 2 CUSA West titles and with the exception of 2 bad years they were 30-22?

Guess not, that post could only come from a SDSU fan!

Wrong. It could only come from fans of more than a dozen universities far more deserving of being in a power conference than Tulane will ever be.

I'm not going to stoop to your level. I hope SDSU has a great year.

Nor is your school going to rise to our level.

(07-31-2016 01:25 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:56 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:28 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:16 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:21 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  That post could only have come from a Tulane fan.

Did you read the part about 2 CUSA West titles and with the exception of 2 bad years they were 30-22?

Guess not, that post could only come from a SDSU fan!

Wrong. It could only come from fans of more than a dozen universities far more deserving of being in a power conference than Tulane will ever be.

I'm not going to stoop to your level. I hope SDSU has a great year.

Nor is your school going to rise to our level.

I threw out a peace offering and you threw it in my face. Here is another one. Do you really want to go there?

(07-31-2016 08:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:38 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don't want to make a case for USM because we've played all of you long enough to where you know us and what we bring to the table.

But WKU...I'm sorry, but USM fans filled 2500 seats of your stadium in the CUSA Championship game. You still had 17.5k in attendance...

This will be my first and last [post on this board..nothing about the AAC excites me when Cincy, Memphis and Houston/Uconn leaves. What a awful basketball conference this would be. Lets be honest those football schools left behind have seen their best years in the rear-view mirror. OK that might change now that the schools that kicked the crap out of your school (ecu) are leaving. Hey someone has to win...right?

Anyways back to the S. Miss fan. The sections Western gave you only holds 3000 fans and the sections you had were not close to being full. Counting the band, maybe 1500-1800. I know we all love to brag about the size of things being bigger than they are but if S. Miss has 300 band members (which I believe I read that somewhere) it might help figure it out.




As for the attendance the official number was 14,500 (stadium holds 23k not counting the berm 1500-2000) I would guess maybe 20k was the total butts. CUSA makes students pay and since this was a CUSA event they got the money from the tickets sold. Western had a sponsor that bought 1500 tickets for students. My guess there were between 6000 and 6500 students there. Students show their ID and they walk in....

even with only 1500 paid for NO student was turned away. So unless Western wanted to pay $30 for each of those 4500 to 5000 students then the announced attendance had to met the paid gate. The new side was full and the berm holds between 1500 and 2000 (not counted in the 23,000 that the stadium holds.

Put 1500 students that were sitting on the berm into the empty seats you see in this picture and no way are there more than 3,000 empty seats. Probably under 2k. So attendance or butts in the seats was between 20k and 21k





Here's a pano shot of that crowd....the fans on the berm (middle of the picture) are not counted in the 23,000 the stadium holds.



New side of the stadium (holds around 5k)


Now you can g back to pimping to join the schools who couldn't get away from S. Miss fast enough. I'm only here because I am wasting a couple hours before I leave to go fishing this morning. And made the mistake of following a link to this silly stuff.

But I don't blame ecu fans for wanting Army and other losing football programs...hell they need to pad that record.

Lets set the record straight...

Western is

3-0 vs current AAC schools over the last 3 seasons. Two over Navy and one over USF
3-3 vs SEC schools over the last 4 season with the losses coming At #1 Bama, #9 LSU and Tenn
13-0 currently vs CUSA (including 2-0 over S. Miss and the games were not close)...2 games away from breaking S. Miss's 14 game run. But then again S. Miss's run came against some of these AAC powerhouse schools so we really can't compare...

RIGHT?

Yep, those good ole days

S. Miss 14 wins over 3 seasons

Houston 3-8
Memphis 2-9
East Carolina 6-5
Army 3-8
Louisville 7-5

Tulane 3-8
East Carolina 9-3
Army 3-8
Cincinnati 3-8
Memphis 5-6
Louisville 7-5

Memphis 4-7
Tulane 6-5
Houston 3-8

Schools who put money into their programs do not have the best days behind them and the schools in this conference put money into their programs. WKU makes 200,000 a year intv money and had it not been for Southern Miss and Marshall your school woukd probably be playing for free.

Tv contracts are about present and future, tv execs pulled their money from CUsa once your school and others arrived and followed these so called rear view mirror schools to tbeir new conference.WKU helped bring about one of the most dramatic losses of revenue in college sports memory.

So the people paying the bills believe ECU and those in the AAC are worth X dollars and WKU is worth X minus the value that ECU and their peer schools took. So whose bestbdays are ahead of them and whose are behind them? Money talks and its talking about value vs little to no value.

Your stats are comical and long winded,in the end ,Southern Miss saved your bacon with the value they give CUSA. Tv exes dont give money based on a manipulated narrative they give money on the bottom line and real world value. Based on what you are getting paid I think its obvious whose best days are inthe rear view mirror.

You mean like the private television contract that WKU has employed over multiple years with Fox College Sports? Where every single one of WKU's games is broadcast on national television that are not part of our conference primary TV contract. And we get a decent enough paycheck for that. In fact it is more then our CUSA TV contract payout.

I really could care less if WKU was in the AAC. But you need to get out of your bubble a little bit. When average fans see the names of WKU and ECU there is no difference in perception. Regardless of what you may think. Outside of Carolina most people couldn't even tell you where ECU was at. Same can be said for WKU outside of Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the ohio valley area.

Does anyone in the current c-usa average 30k over a 5 year period? Picks are going to be terrible if we need 3 or 4 teams. I say just take Witchta State with a 5 year football commitment. Army FB only if we beg enough. VCU i'm not sure will be interested.

If we can hold off for 5 years take ODU and Charlotte if they grow.

(07-31-2016 01:35 PM)Rojogrande Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:38 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don't want to make a case for USM because we've played all of you long enough to where you know us and what we bring to the table.

But WKU...I'm sorry, but USM fans filled 2500 seats of your stadium in the CUSA Championship game. You still had 17.5k in attendance...

This will be my first and last [post on this board..nothing about the AAC excites me when Cincy, Memphis and Houston/Uconn leaves. What a awful basketball conference this would be. Lets be honest those football schools left behind have seen their best years in the rear-view mirror. OK that might change now that the schools that kicked the crap out of your school (ecu) are leaving. Hey someone has to win...right?

Anyways back to the S. Miss fan. The sections Western gave you only holds 3000 fans and the sections you had were not close to being full. Counting the band, maybe 1500-1800. I know we all love to brag about the size of things being bigger than they are but if S. Miss has 300 band members (which I believe I read that somewhere) it might help figure it out.




As for the attendance the official number was 14,500 (stadium holds 23k not counting the berm 1500-2000) I would guess maybe 20k was the total butts. CUSA makes students pay and since this was a CUSA event they got the money from the tickets sold. Western had a sponsor that bought 1500 tickets for students. My guess there were between 6000 and 6500 students there. Students show their ID and they walk in....

even with only 1500 paid for NO student was turned away. So unless Western wanted to pay $30 for each of those 4500 to 5000 students then the announced attendance had to met the paid gate. The new side was full and the berm holds between 1500 and 2000 (not counted in the 23,000 that the stadium holds.

Put 1500 students that were sitting on the berm into the empty seats you see in this picture and no way are there more than 3,000 empty seats. Probably under 2k. So attendance or butts in the seats was between 20k and 21k





Here's a pano shot of that crowd....the fans on the berm (middle of the picture) are not counted in the 23,000 the stadium holds.



New side of the stadium (holds around 5k)


Now you can g back to pimping to join the schools who couldn't get away from S. Miss fast enough. I'm only here because I am wasting a couple hours before I leave to go fishing this morning. And made the mistake of following a link to this silly stuff.

But I don't blame ecu fans for wanting Army and other losing football programs...hell they need to pad that record.

Lets set the record straight...

Western is

3-0 vs current AAC schools over the last 3 seasons. Two over Navy and one over USF
3-3 vs SEC schools over the last 4 season with the losses coming At #1 Bama, #9 LSU and Tenn
13-0 currently vs CUSA (including 2-0 over S. Miss and the games were not close)...2 games away from breaking S. Miss's 14 game run. But then again S. Miss's run came against some of these AAC powerhouse schools so we really can't compare...

RIGHT?

Yep, those good ole days

S. Miss 14 wins over 3 seasons

Houston 3-8
Memphis 2-9
East Carolina 6-5
Army 3-8
Louisville 7-5

Tulane 3-8
East Carolina 9-3
Army 3-8
Cincinnati 3-8
Memphis 5-6
Louisville 7-5

Memphis 4-7
Tulane 6-5
Houston 3-8

Schools who put money into their programs do not have the best days behind them and the schools in this conference put money into their programs. WKU makes 200,000 a year intv money and had it not been for Southern Miss and Marshall your school woukd probably be playing for free.

Tv contracts are about present and future, tv execs pulled their money from CUsa once your school and others arrived and followed these so called rear view mirror schools to tbeir new conference.WKU helped bring about one of the most dramatic losses of revenue in college sports memory.

So the people paying the bills believe ECU and those in the AAC are worth X dollars and WKU is worth X minus the value that ECU and their peer schools took. So whose bestbdays are ahead of them and whose are behind them? Money talks and its talking about value vs little to no value.

Your stats are comical and long winded,in the end ,Southern Miss saved your bacon with the value they give CUSA. Tv exes dont give money based on a manipulated narrative they give money on the bottom line and real world value. Based on what you are getting paid I think its obvious whose best days are inthe rear view mirror.

You mean like the private television contract that WKU has employed over multiple years with Fox College Sports? Where every single one of WKU's games is broadcast on national television that are not part of our conference primary TV contract. And we get a decent enough paycheck for that. In fact it is more then our CUSA TV contract payout.

I really could care less if WKU was in the AAC. But you need to get out of your bubble a little bit. When average fans see the names of WKU and ECU there is no difference in perception. Regardless of what you may think. Outside of Carolina most people couldn't even tell you where ECU was at. Same can be said for WKU outside of Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the ohio valley area.

You're kidding right? They have a fanbase that runs are 45k a game. WKU was in the sunbelt a few years ago and probably have 20k a game? ECU gets regular home games with ACC schools and win many of them. ECU is at another level by far.

(07-31-2016 01:35 PM)Rojogrande Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:38 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don't want to make a case for USM because we've played all of you long enough to where you know us and what we bring to the table.

But WKU...I'm sorry, but USM fans filled 2500 seats of your stadium in the CUSA Championship game. You still had 17.5k in attendance...

This will be my first and last [post on this board..nothing about the AAC excites me when Cincy, Memphis and Houston/Uconn leaves. What a awful basketball conference this would be. Lets be honest those football schools left behind have seen their best years in the rear-view mirror. OK that might change now that the schools that kicked the crap out of your school (ecu) are leaving. Hey someone has to win...right?

Anyways back to the S. Miss fan. The sections Western gave you only holds 3000 fans and the sections you had were not close to being full. Counting the band, maybe 1500-1800. I know we all love to brag about the size of things being bigger than they are but if S. Miss has 300 band members (which I believe I read that somewhere) it might help figure it out.




As for the attendance the official number was 14,500 (stadium holds 23k not counting the berm 1500-2000) I would guess maybe 20k was the total butts. CUSA makes students pay and since this was a CUSA event they got the money from the tickets sold. Western had a sponsor that bought 1500 tickets for students. My guess there were between 6000 and 6500 students there. Students show their ID and they walk in....

even with only 1500 paid for NO student was turned away. So unless Western wanted to pay $30 for each of those 4500 to 5000 students then the announced attendance had to met the paid gate. The new side was full and the berm holds between 1500 and 2000 (not counted in the 23,000 that the stadium holds.

Put 1500 students that were sitting on the berm into the empty seats you see in this picture and no way are there more than 3,000 empty seats. Probably under 2k. So attendance or butts in the seats was between 20k and 21k





Here's a pano shot of that crowd....the fans on the berm (middle of the picture) are not counted in the 23,000 the stadium holds.



New side of the stadium (holds around 5k)


Now you can g back to pimping to join the schools who couldn't get away from S. Miss fast enough. I'm only here because I am wasting a couple hours before I leave to go fishing this morning. And made the mistake of following a link to this silly stuff.

But I don't blame ecu fans for wanting Army and other losing football programs...hell they need to pad that record.

Lets set the record straight...

Western is

3-0 vs current AAC schools over the last 3 seasons. Two over Navy and one over USF
3-3 vs SEC schools over the last 4 season with the losses coming At #1 Bama, #9 LSU and Tenn
13-0 currently vs CUSA (including 2-0 over S. Miss and the games were not close)...2 games away from breaking S. Miss's 14 game run. But then again S. Miss's run came against some of these AAC powerhouse schools so we really can't compare...

RIGHT?

Yep, those good ole days

S. Miss 14 wins over 3 seasons

Houston 3-8
Memphis 2-9
East Carolina 6-5
Army 3-8
Louisville 7-5

Tulane 3-8
East Carolina 9-3
Army 3-8
Cincinnati 3-8
Memphis 5-6
Louisville 7-5

Memphis 4-7
Tulane 6-5
Houston 3-8

Schools who put money into their programs do not have the best days behind them and the schools in this conference put money into their programs. WKU makes 200,000 a year intv money and had it not been for Southern Miss and Marshall your school woukd probably be playing for free.

Tv contracts are about present and future, tv execs pulled their money from CUsa once your school and others arrived and followed these so called rear view mirror schools to tbeir new conference.WKU helped bring about one of the most dramatic losses of revenue in college sports memory.

So the people paying the bills believe ECU and those in the AAC are worth X dollars and WKU is worth X minus the value that ECU and their peer schools took. So whose bestbdays are ahead of them and whose are behind them? Money talks and its talking about value vs little to no value.

Your stats are comical and long winded,in the end ,Southern Miss saved your bacon with the value they give CUSA. Tv exes dont give money based on a manipulated narrative they give money on the bottom line and real world value. Based on what you are getting paid I think its obvious whose best days are inthe rear view mirror.

You mean like the private television contract that WKU has employed over multiple years with Fox College Sports? Where every single one of WKU's games is broadcast on national television that are not part of our conference primary TV contract. And we get a decent enough paycheck for that. In fact it is more then our CUSA TV contract payout.

I really could care less if WKU was in the AAC. But you need to get out of your bubble a little bit. When average fans see the names of WKU and ECU there is no difference in perception. Regardless of what you may think. Outside of Carolina most people couldn't even tell you where ECU was at. Same can be said for WKU outside of Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the ohio valley area.

Any real college football fan knows who ECU is. The same can't be said for WKU

(07-30-2016 09:46 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:19 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:08 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  This from the Memphis Athletic office. My contact there has been right on with CUSA and AAC news.

I like the pics

You are hearing?

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The "voices" told him...
(Tinfoil hat must have gotten blown off his head.)

"David Kurmudgeon"="DavidSt"
"DavidSt"="David Krystofski"

Seriously, one of the most insane and troubled people on these boards. Fabricates things out of thin air all the time.

Says he is a Memphis fan, never heard of him on MT.org. You would think that somebody that is a Memphis fan would have some positive or negative rep points from other Memphis fans.

Anybody from the Memphis board heard of Mr. Krumudgen?

(07-31-2016 01:34 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:25 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:56 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:28 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:16 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  Did you read the part about 2 CUSA West titles and with the exception of 2 bad years they were 30-22?

Guess not, that post could only come from a SDSU fan!

Wrong. It could only come from fans of more than a dozen universities far more deserving of being in a power conference than Tulane will ever be.

I'm not going to stoop to your level. I hope SDSU has a great year.

Nor is your school going to rise to our level.

I threw out a peace offering and you threw it in my face. Here is another one. Do you really want to go there?

Mea culpa. Tulane is a great school academically. Much better than SDSU and I admit a lack of objectivity because I've always felt that but for Mike Aresco and God knows who else deciding Tulane should be added to the nBE that the conference never would have fallen apart and my school would have joined for football and that the nBE could perhaps have evolved into the best of the rest conference which would be head and shoulders better than the AAC or the MWC. Such is life among the NCAA's lesser lights.

(07-31-2016 02:15 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:34 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:25 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:56 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 05:28 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  Wrong. It could only come from fans of more than a dozen universities far more deserving of being in a power conference than Tulane will ever be.

I'm not going to stoop to your level. I hope SDSU has a great year.

Nor is your school going to rise to our level.

I threw out a peace offering and you threw it in my face. Here is another one. Do you really want to go there?

Mea culpa. Tulane is a great school academically. Much better than SDSU and I admit a lack of objectivity because I've always felt that but for Mike Aresco and God knows who else deciding Tulane should be added to the nBE that the conference never would have fallen apart and my school would have joined for football and that the nBE could perhaps have evolved into the best of the rest conference which would be head and shoulders better than the AAC or the MWC. Such is life among the NCAA's lesser lights.

Thank you for the kind words. I may not have my facts straight, but our old President, Scott Cowen, really pushed hard for the CUSA/MWC merger. When that didn't happen, he made some phone calls, most notably to the President of UCF, Dr. Hitt. Dr. Hitt is a Tulane Alum. The rest is history.



Central Florida Played A Role In Bringing Tulane Into Big East
January 29, 2013
Text messages from Central Florida President John Hitt to Big East commissioner Mike Aresco show the school played a role in one of the league's more surprising moves.

Hitt sent a text message to Aresco about Tulane's interest in the Big East, according to records obtained by the Orlando Sentinel.




"Scott Cowen at Tulane wants to talk with me about possibilities for Tulane in the Big East. Scott is a friend. Will listen and then call you. John," Hitt wrote to Aresco on Nov. 18.

Aresco responded, "Great, John, their AD, Rick Dixon, is an old friend and he called this afternoon. They are extremely interested. This would be a big one for us, important market, great school academically, and Scott would be in our tent on the BCS revenue share matter we have to deal with as well as other things. He's a bulldog and very sharp. Keep me posted. Thanks, Mike."


http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-29/s...sco-tulane

(07-30-2016 11:01 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:54 AM)First Mate Wrote:  These three are not AAC caliber. Nice try. But no thanks.

Rice sucks at football and they have no fans. See CUSA.

WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.

ODU hasn't been division 1 long enough to look to move up. They need to grow a lot and win some games, bowl games. They have a nice start going but not yet. They could turn out to be the next USF or the next UAB. We don't know yet.

None of these three should even be considered at this point. They are where they need to be.

ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

If you're talking potential TV viewers, I would have to agree. However WKU is currently 2-0 verses the Cadets:

11-15-14. WKU 52. Army 24
11-09-13. WKU 21. Army 17

I don't think th AAC should add anyone if they lose 3. Stay at 9 - round robin in FB and BB. Besides none of the possible replacements are going anywhere (except possibly Rice), they will be available if and when needed.

If Rice is the 1st choice for expansion go ahead and add them (before MWC can add) and stay at 10.

(08-01-2016 07:39 AM)doughtyrowdy Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 11:01 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

If you're talking potential TV viewers, I would have to agree. However WKU is currently 2-0 verses the Cadets:

11-15-14. WKU 52. Army 24
11-09-13. WKU 21. Army 17

No one wants WKU

(08-01-2016 07:39 AM)doughtyrowdy Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 11:01 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

If you're talking potential TV viewers, I would have to agree. However WKU is currently 2-0 verses the Cadets:

11-15-14. WKU 52. Army 24
11-09-13. WKU 21. Army 17

And you answered yourself in your first sentence. If you think expansion is driven by football results involving a few years then you are fooling yourself.
It's all about tv viewers and brand name. Army meets those two criteria

(07-31-2016 01:42 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 01:35 PM)Rojogrande Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:54 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:39 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:38 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don't want to make a case for USM because we've played all of you long enough to where you know us and what we bring to the table.

But WKU...I'm sorry, but USM fans filled 2500 seats of your stadium in the CUSA Championship game. You still had 17.5k in attendance...

This will be my first and last [post on this board..nothing about the AAC excites me when Cincy, Memphis and Houston/Uconn leaves. What a awful basketball conference this would be. Lets be honest those football schools left behind have seen their best years in the rear-view mirror. OK that might change now that the schools that kicked the crap out of your school (ecu) are leaving. Hey someone has to win...right?

Anyways back to the S. Miss fan. The sections Western gave you only holds 3000 fans and the sections you had were not close to being full. Counting the band, maybe 1500-1800. I know we all love to brag about the size of things being bigger than they are but if S. Miss has 300 band members (which I believe I read that somewhere) it might help figure it out.




As for the attendance the official number was 14,500 (stadium holds 23k not counting the berm 1500-2000) I would guess maybe 20k was the total butts. CUSA makes students pay and since this was a CUSA event they got the money from the tickets sold. Western had a sponsor that bought 1500 tickets for students. My guess there were between 6000 and 6500 students there. Students show their ID and they walk in....

even with only 1500 paid for NO student was turned away. So unless Western wanted to pay $30 for each of those 4500 to 5000 students then the announced attendance had to met the paid gate. The new side was full and the berm holds between 1500 and 2000 (not counted in the 23,000 that the stadium holds.

Put 1500 students that were sitting on the berm into the empty seats you see in this picture and no way are there more than 3,000 empty seats. Probably under 2k. So attendance or butts in the seats was between 20k and 21k





Here's a pano shot of that crowd....the fans on the berm (middle of the picture) are not counted in the 23,000 the stadium holds.



New side of the stadium (holds around 5k)


Now you can g back to pimping to join the schools who couldn't get away from S. Miss fast enough. I'm only here because I am wasting a couple hours before I leave to go fishing this morning. And made the mistake of following a link to this silly stuff.

But I don't blame ecu fans for wanting Army and other losing football programs...hell they need to pad that record.

Lets set the record straight...

Western is

3-0 vs current AAC schools over the last 3 seasons. Two over Navy and one over USF
3-3 vs SEC schools over the last 4 season with the losses coming At #1 Bama, #9 LSU and Tenn
13-0 currently vs CUSA (including 2-0 over S. Miss and the games were not close)...2 games away from breaking S. Miss's 14 game run. But then again S. Miss's run came against some of these AAC powerhouse schools so we really can't compare...

RIGHT?

Yep, those good ole days

S. Miss 14 wins over 3 seasons

Houston 3-8
Memphis 2-9
East Carolina 6-5
Army 3-8
Louisville 7-5

Tulane 3-8
East Carolina 9-3
Army 3-8
Cincinnati 3-8
Memphis 5-6
Louisville 7-5

Memphis 4-7
Tulane 6-5
Houston 3-8

Schools who put money into their programs do not have the best days behind them and the schools in this conference put money into their programs. WKU makes 200,000 a year intv money and had it not been for Southern Miss and Marshall your school woukd probably be playing for free.

Tv contracts are about present and future, tv execs pulled their money from CUsa once your school and others arrived and followed these so called rear view mirror schools to tbeir new conference.WKU helped bring about one of the most dramatic losses of revenue in college sports memory.

So the people paying the bills believe ECU and those in the AAC are worth X dollars and WKU is worth X minus the value that ECU and their peer schools took. So whose bestbdays are ahead of them and whose are behind them? Money talks and its talking about value vs little to no value.

Your stats are comical and long winded,in the end ,Southern Miss saved your bacon with the value they give CUSA. Tv exes dont give money based on a manipulated narrative they give money on the bottom line and real world value. Based on what you are getting paid I think its obvious whose best days are inthe rear view mirror.

You mean like the private television contract that WKU has employed over multiple years with Fox College Sports? Where every single one of WKU's games is broadcast on national television that are not part of our conference primary TV contract. And we get a decent enough paycheck for that. In fact it is more then our CUSA TV contract payout.

I really could care less if WKU was in the AAC. But you need to get out of your bubble a little bit. When average fans see the names of WKU and ECU there is no difference in perception. Regardless of what you may think. Outside of Carolina most people couldn't even tell you where ECU was at. Same can be said for WKU outside of Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the ohio valley area.

Any real college football fan knows who ECU is. The same can't be said for WKU

Of course any real fan knows who ECU is. Any real college football fan knows who all the teams are. I can name every team in every conference. But I am not talking about real college football fans. Notice I said average fans. Meaning fans who don't follow the sport that closely. Which is a large majority of P5 fans honestly. They don't see any difference between teams not in the P5.

Now you are talking football but WKU has just as much brand recognition in basketball as the majority of the AAC besides UConn and Memphis...maybe Cincinnati but that is a lot closer.

Once again, I could care less about WKU being in the AAC. But you guys need to get out of the bubble you are living in a little bit. Of course all of us on message boards know who teams are. We are all die hard fans or we wouldn't be on these boards. But if you poll average people in Carolina about WKU most may not know us. Same can be said if you poll people in our area about ECU.

All that said of course you have more overall brand recognition in football because you all have been doing it a while. WKU has only been FBS for 7 years. Most people think of WKU as a basketball school first and foremost.

(08-01-2016 08:52 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 07:39 AM)doughtyrowdy Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 11:01 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

If you're talking potential TV viewers, I would have to agree. However WKU is currently 2-0 verses the Cadets:

11-15-14. WKU 52. Army 24
11-09-13. WKU 21. Army 17

No one wants WKU

Whatever. It's a good thing that a fans inability to critically think up an effective argument is not part of conference reshuffling criteria. See you in 2017