(07-30-2016 09:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I doubt we'd grab 3 schools with virtually no fans in the stands. WKU barely even got 14K to show up for the CCG held in thier stadium. That's a big red flag.

Army would be my fist phone call. If they say no---then look at MW schools. If that's a no go---then add S Miss or LaTech to get back to 10. Fortify basketball by adding Wichita, UMass, and VCU as non-football schools. It's the only path forward that keeps other competitive.

The only other option is to become a snobby academic league by adding schools,like Biffalo, Ohio, and Rice.

Or---split the difference. LaTech is a top 200 USNWR school. So adding just LaTech adds another top 200 school (all current members of the AAC are top 200 except Memphis) and adding UMass as a non-football school adds another top 100. Wichita and VCU aren't great academics, but they are not full members---so, not really a black mark on the academic rep.

It just occurred to me. These 3 (allegedly) are leaving so early (under a year) that the AAC might not be able to get replacements in for 2017, even if they wanted to, b/c the TV money isn't enough to warrant high exit fees.

Maybe they find one to get back to 10, and then add 2 more for 2018.

Or perhaps, they play at 9 for 2017 with no divisions and a round robin schedule, and then reboot for 2018.

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:54 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 07:00 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  Hey don't shoot the messenger . I am not a troll.
But if you really look at the choices they make sense.

Rice investing heavily in facilities great baseball
WKU solid Basketball name and I think their Football was in the top25
ODU Great attendance and basketball and a re-do of their football stadium ln the works

These three are not AAC caliber. Nice try. But no thanks.

Rice sucks at football and they have no fans. See CUSA.

WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.

ODU hasn't been division 1 long enough to look to move up. They need to grow a lot and win some games, bowl games. They have a nice start going but not yet. They could turn out to be the next USF or the next UAB. We don't know yet.

None of these three should even be considered at this point. They are where they need to be.

ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:54 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 07:00 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  Hey don't shoot the messenger . I am not a troll.
But if you really look at the choices they make sense.

Rice investing heavily in facilities great baseball
WKU solid Basketball name and I think their Football was in the top25
ODU Great attendance and basketball and a re-do of their football stadium ln the works

These three are not AAC caliber. Nice try. But no thanks.

Rice sucks at football and they have no fans. See CUSA.

WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.

ODU hasn't been division 1 long enough to look to move up. They need to grow a lot and win some games, bowl games. They have a nice start going but not yet. They could turn out to be the next USF or the next UAB. We don't know yet.

None of these three should even be considered at this point. They are where they need to be.

ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

Hmm!!

(07-30-2016 11:01 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:54 AM)First Mate Wrote:  These three are not AAC caliber. Nice try. But no thanks.

Rice sucks at football and they have no fans. See CUSA.

WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.

ODU hasn't been division 1 long enough to look to move up. They need to grow a lot and win some games, bowl games. They have a nice start going but not yet. They could turn out to be the next USF or the next UAB. We don't know yet.

None of these three should even be considered at this point. They are where they need to be.

ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

Because Army is a national brand with a great rep. They have also recently committed to winning in football with a great new hire.

We definitely don't need an odu, Charlotte, or wku. As far as odu and uncc, markets don't matter when you can't sell 15,000 seats. That says enough to me right there. Also odu has decent bball, what else? These schools bring nothing. No offense but potential can only bring you so far. If they had that much potential the Big 12 would be interested. There has to be other schools that bring more to the table like winning, tradition, and butts in the seat.
None of the 3 mentio ed schools can touch Army.

(07-30-2016 10:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 09:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I doubt we'd grab 3 schools with virtually no fans in the stands. WKU barely even got 14K to show up for the CCG held in thier stadium. That's a big red flag.

Army would be my fist phone call. If they say no---then look at MW schools. If that's a no go---then add S Miss or LaTech to get back to 10. Fortify basketball by adding Wichita, UMass, and VCU as non-football schools. It's the only path forward that keeps other competitive.

The only other option is to become a snobby academic league by adding schools,like Biffalo, Ohio, and Rice.

Or---split the difference. LaTech is a top 200 USNWR school. So adding just LaTech adds another top 200 school (all current members of the AAC are top 200 except Memphis) and adding UMass as a non-football school adds another top 100. Wichita and VCU aren't great academics, but they are not full members---so, not really a black mark on the academic rep.

It just occurred to me. These 3 (allegedly) are leaving so early (under a year) that the AAC might not be able to get replacements in for 2017, even if they wanted to, b/c the TV money isn't enough to warrant high exit fees.

Maybe they find one to get back to 10, and then add 2 more for 2018.

Or perhaps, they play at 9 for 2017 with no divisions and a round robin schedule, and then reboot for 2018.

With the new $200K per team TV contract the exit fee in CUSA has fallen dramatically. It is at most 1.5 million. In fact, if there is no change in the contract value, it arguably could be as little as $500K. Either way, a CUSA team is in the black by year 2 at the latest.

(07-30-2016 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 08:09 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Why is anyone giving this Krumudgen character any attention?

Great question. It's total BS, afaik.

This is rich.

(07-30-2016 10:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:09 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 06:54 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 07:00 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  Hey don't shoot the messenger . I am not a troll.
But if you really look at the choices they make sense.

Rice investing heavily in facilities great baseball
WKU solid Basketball name and I think their Football was in the top25
ODU Great attendance and basketball and a re-do of their football stadium ln the works

These three are not AAC caliber. Nice try. But no thanks.

Rice sucks at football and they have no fans. See CUSA.

WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.

ODU hasn't been division 1 long enough to look to move up. They need to grow a lot and win some games, bowl games. They have a nice start going but not yet. They could turn out to be the next USF or the next UAB. We don't know yet.

None of these three should even be considered at this point. They are where they need to be.

ok, but you guys are losing three schools...so are you saying add nobody? If not, who do you say to add?

I'm not sure we are losing 3. I still think the B12 only adds 2 teams. BYU, Houston. Or BYU, Cincy.

That said, if we lose 3...try to get Army first. Second go after a couple MW teams. Then see what you have. Maybe Southern Miss bc they have proven over the years they can compete well in football. Maybe but down the road.

I would stay at 9 or 10 teams before I would grab teams from CUSA or the MAC. Look at adding VCU and Wichita to fortify basketball. You've still got a good conference without watering it down a ton.

I read on here people up on their soap box extolling the virtues of a specific school having highly successful sports teams, especially football, and then they turn around and say that Army is their first choice. It makes no sense. There are literally dozens and dozens of FBS football teams that year after year are significantly better than Army. Other than having a recent surge, Navy was in the same boat (no pun intended). When is the last time that Army actually won the Army/Navy football game?

In the next most significant college sport (basketball), does Army ever win anything? I don't ever recall seeing them in the NCAA Tournament or the NIT. Baseball? Men's Soccer? Wrestling? Field Hockey? Women's Basketball? Where are they? It is beyond the pale to tout sports accomplishments on here as the main requirement in most people's minds and then in the next breath state that Army should be the first choice.

As far as mentioning VCU for everything but football (mainly for basketball), they aren't all that. In their best season ever when they went to the Final Four, ODU defeated them two out of the three times they played, including in the CAA Tournament Championship game. Two of those three games were played in their home town of Richmond. Both teams lost in the NCAA Tournament to Butler. ODU lost in the opening round to them by two points on a buzzer beating rebound follow shot. VCU lost to them in a game that wasn't very close. ODU and VCU have maintained our yearly contest with one another and each usually wins on their home court. ODU last played them at home the year before last when VCU was ranked #14 at the time and defeated them 73-67. VCU closed in the final 6-7 minutes to make the score that respectable after trailing for more than half of the game by 15-25 points. The game was in reality a beat down and their own fans said as much on their message boards afterward.

ODU BBALL you are correct.

There is not as much of gap between VCU and ODU basketball as some think. You've got to go with ODU and the larger Virginia Beach market over the Richmond market.

Then in football, ODU is the addition with the highest potential out there among the candidates.

(07-30-2016 11:28 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 08:51 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 08:09 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  Why is anyone giving this Krumudgen character any attention?

Great question. It's total BS, afaik.

This is rich.

why?

[quote='First Mate' pid='13428910' dateline='1469879689']
[quote='David Krumudgen' pid='13428095' dateline='1469836856']


WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.


Hey First Mate, you need to check your fact before knocking WKU. When was last time ECU finished in the top 25 in football. How many times has your men's and women's ball programs gone to the NCAA, Sweet 16, Final Fours? Just because we are new to FBS does not mean we won't enhance the AAC if Invited, we would. We have been playing football for 100 years and we have been historically a top 25 men's and women's basketball program.

(07-30-2016 06:33 AM)80alum1 Wrote:  I don't believe anyone would laugh if WKU was chosen. I don't think we will be but the campus is beautiful and Bowling Green is a growing community located between Nashville and Louisville but close to Nashville. Our sports teams are all on the upward swing and if you want a basketball footprint, then WKU's is large.
I have been shocked at the improvement in our football team. We have made progress well above my expectations. Given we are in Ky, maybe my expectations were too low.lol

Jokes on you then.

(07-30-2016 11:33 AM)GreekTopper Wrote:  [quote='First Mate' pid='13428910' dateline='1469879689']
[quote='David Krumudgen' pid='13428095' dateline='1469836856']


WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.


Hey First Mate, you need to check your fact before knocking WKU. When was last time ECU finished in the top 25 in football. How many times has your men's and women's ball programs gone to the NCAA, Sweet 16, Final Fours? Just because we are new to FBS does not mean we won't enhance the AAC if Invited, we would. We have been playing football for 100 years and we have been historically a top 25 men's and women's basketball program.

I couldn't figure out WKU at first either but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that WKU is located in the central time zone. This way they can fit in the west with the private schools.

Also WKU is only the 3rd FBS program in KY, not unlike ODU's situation in VA. This is different than MTSU's situation behind 2 SEC and 1 B12 school in Tennessee.

WKU has more basketball tradition than any other AAC candidate.

By taking WKU and ODU you've also removed 2 of the top targets for MAC expansion as both have been offered by the MAC in the last decade. Rice is the top MWC target and they can be taken off the board.

(07-30-2016 08:00 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 07:15 AM)Wavetime Wrote:  Rice doesn't suck in football. They are 36-36 over the past 6 years with 2 CUSA West titles. Don't say CUSA sucks, they can only play the schedule that they have. They are in Houston, a top 5 market and their academics are Ivy League good and also have AAU status. Take out 2011 and 2012 and they are 30-22. Rice is a lock....

36-36? That's a selling point?? Against who?

Rice also won our C-USA championship in 2013 when ECU was still in the conference.

These three make sense. Something for the West privates and Navy with hoops upside, a solid newcomer and hoops upside in WKU, and a big eastern market team with hoops upside.

(07-30-2016 12:09 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  By taking WKU and ODU you've also removed 2 of the top targets for MAC expansion as both have been offered by the MAC in the last decade. Rice is the top MWC target and they can be taken off the board.

I think UTEP is at the top of the MWC target list, and the Miners will eventually be reunited with the MWC front range schools. But where is Southern Mississippi? That just doesn't make sense to me.

(07-30-2016 04:37 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:10 AM)Realignment Wrote:  WKU for the past decade has been building a solid brand and football is coming around. Rice has the academic prestige along with a world-class baseball program, it could be built into a solid brand with a bigger budget. The 3rd team is where you get questionable. If you don't this UMass is ready, then don't add them. I make a push to add Air Force as a football-only member, if they say know then the hard-sell on Army as football only and tell them that the ARMY vs. NAVY game moves from the last CFB of the season to the Opening Kickoff to the CFB season. They can sell that to TV networks.

AAC East
ECU
Temple
UCF
UConn
USF
WKU

AAC West
Air Force or Army
Navy
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa

That would be a solid conference I believe.

Hey bud,move right along. USC has none of these problems so your thoughts mean jack here. We dont need your condescending faux analysis. When your conf falls apart and USC is fighting for its football life,you be sure to share all of your wisdom with your conference mates,okay. When WKU ,Rice etc are mentioned as possible conference partners then you be sure to say something nice about them as i am sure you would live to play these guys on a regular basis.

Lol! Wow, sir. I'm just giving an opinion, my grandma teaches at Rice University, so I do have some kind of dog in the fight. But there's no reason to be rude, if you don't agree just say so. But to call me condescending etc. for a message board post is just silly. and I'm not usually one to fall for the troll bait but here I am.

(07-30-2016 11:33 AM)GreekTopper Wrote:  [quote='First Mate' pid='13428910' dateline='1469879689']
[quote='David Krumudgen' pid='13428095' dateline='1469836856']


WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.


Hey First Mate, you need to check your fact before knocking WKU. When was last time ECU finished in the top 25 in football. How many times has your men's and women's ball programs gone to the NCAA, Sweet 16, Final Fours? Just because we are new to FBS does not mean we won't enhance the AAC if Invited, we would. We have been playing football for 100 years and we have been historically a top 25 men's and women's basketball program.

Yawn. Perception is reality. I don't want to be rude but WKU does nothing for the perception nationally of the AAC. They may be the best thing since sliced bread (as you say) but no one outside of your fans would see it as a great addition.

Women's basketball?? Really? That's what you're coming here with? You can talk about women's basketball all you want but no one cares. It means absolutely nothing.

This is all about football and WKU is not a worthy add for the AAC in my opinion.

(07-30-2016 01:19 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 11:33 AM)GreekTopper Wrote:  [quote='First Mate' pid='13428910' dateline='1469879689']
[quote='David Krumudgen' pid='13428095' dateline='1469836856']


WKU? Are you serious? They have one or two good seasons and ppl go crazy. No way. no upside at all to picking this team.


Hey First Mate, you need to check your fact before knocking WKU. When was last time ECU finished in the top 25 in football. How many times has your men's and women's ball programs gone to the NCAA, Sweet 16, Final Fours? Just because we are new to FBS does not mean we won't enhance the AAC if Invited, we would. We have been playing football for 100 years and we have been historically a top 25 men's and women's basketball program.

Yawn. Perception is reality. I don't want to be rude but WKU does nothing for the perception nationally of the AAC. They may be the best thing since sliced bread (as you say) but no one outside of your fans would see it as a great addition.

Women's basketball?? Really? That's what you're coming here with? You can talk about women's basketball all you want but no one cares. It means absolutely nothing.

This is all about football and WKU is not a worthy add for the AAC in my opinion.

If the AAC loses Cincinnati then WKU becomes a reasonable add, they are in between the Cincinnati, Louisville and Nashville TV markets, they have a good brand, very good men's basketball and are producing one of the better teams in the C-USA

(07-30-2016 01:01 PM)Realignment Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:37 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:10 AM)Realignment Wrote:  WKU for the past decade has been building a solid brand and football is coming around. Rice has the academic prestige along with a world-class baseball program, it could be built into a solid brand with a bigger budget. The 3rd team is where you get questionable. If you don't this UMass is ready, then don't add them. I make a push to add Air Force as a football-only member, if they say know then the hard-sell on Army as football only and tell them that the ARMY vs. NAVY game moves from the last CFB of the season to the Opening Kickoff to the CFB season. They can sell that to TV networks.

AAC East
ECU
Temple
UCF
UConn
USF
WKU

AAC West
Air Force or Army
Navy
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa

That would be a solid conference I believe.

Hey bud,move right along. USC has none of these problems so your thoughts mean jack here. We dont need your condescending faux analysis. When your conf falls apart and USC is fighting for its football life,you be sure to share all of your wisdom with your conference mates,okay. When WKU ,Rice etc are mentioned as possible conference partners then you be sure to say something nice about them as i am sure you would live to play these guys on a regular basis.

Lol! Wow, sir. I'm just giving an opinion, my grandma teaches at Rice University, so I do have some kind of dog in the fight. But there's no reason to be rude, if you don't agree just say so. But to call me condescending etc. for a message board post is just silly. and I'm not usually one to fall for the troll bate but here I am.

Its awful nice of you to come share your thoughts with us given that the school you support is not fighting for its survival.

But if that ever happens i will be sure to give you advice on why WKU is a great fit fir USC. Unbelievable

(07-29-2016 06:08 PM)David Krumudgen Wrote:  This from the Memphis Athletic office. My contact there has been right on with CUSA and AAC news.

I like the pics

You are hearing?

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

(07-30-2016 01:19 PM)First Mate Wrote:  [quote='GreekTopper' pid='13429439' dateline='1469896415']

This is all about football and WKU is not a worthy add for the AAC in my opinion.

Yes, football is important and typically the most important criteria but to assume that it's only about football is, in my opinion, entirely wrong. Some ECU fans here can't understand why ECU isn't already in a P5 or why they aren't a top contender this go around. It's obvious to most of the rest of us though. Top conferences want proven winners in football but they also want proven winners in basketball. ECU has only one 20 win season in the last 50 years of Men's Basketball. No P5 conference is going to invite a program that will bring down their basketball to that degree, especially one from a G5 conference.

If the AAC is raided of Cincy, Memphis, Houston and/or Conn, you better believe that they'll want to invite a team or teams that can fill that basketball void as well as the football void. The AAC doesn't want to be a one-bid basketball conference. To separate itself from the other G5's it must win on the football field but it must also be a multi-bid basketball conference. It's that simple.

As I've stated before, I know WKU is not going to get an invite from the AAC and I'm not sure we'd want it.

(07-30-2016 01:01 PM)Realignment Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 04:37 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:10 AM)Realignment Wrote:  WKU for the past decade has been building a solid brand and football is coming around. Rice has the academic prestige along with a world-class baseball program, it could be built into a solid brand with a bigger budget. The 3rd team is where you get questionable. If you don't this UMass is ready, then don't add them. I make a push to add Air Force as a football-only member, if they say know then the hard-sell on Army as football only and tell them that the ARMY vs. NAVY game moves from the last CFB of the season to the Opening Kickoff to the CFB season. They can sell that to TV networks.

AAC East
ECU
Temple
UCF
UConn
USF
WKU

AAC West
Air Force or Army
Navy
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa

That would be a solid conference I believe.

Hey bud,move right along. USC has none of these problems so your thoughts mean jack here. We dont need your condescending faux analysis. When your conf falls apart and USC is fighting for its football life,you be sure to share all of your wisdom with your conference mates,okay. When WKU ,Rice etc are mentioned as possible conference partners then you be sure to say something nice about them as i am sure you would live to play these guys on a regular basis.

Lol! Wow, sir. I'm just giving an opinion, my grandma teaches at Rice University, so I do have some kind of dog in the fight. But there's no reason to be rude, if you don't agree just say so. But to call me condescending etc. for a message board post is just silly. and I'm not usually one to fall for the troll bait but here I am.

not defending anybody but you have to be aware that the left behind team fans are not going to be in the best mood 'round here.....just an FYI