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G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
Here are some ideas on who should be considered for AAC admission.
WKU was 12-2 last year and the Champs of CUSA going undefeated in conference play. Gets the AAC back into the Ohio Valley region.
Marshall was 10-3 last year and could be a good fit though playing against an increased level of competition might be too much for the small school.
Southern Miss 9-5 last year finishing first in CUSA West division. They have a lot of history with most of the conference but don't bring much value to the TV deal and basketball would only get worse.
Rice was 5-7 last year. Yes, they have great academics but a team that struggles in CUSA should not be high on the list. They're basketball was only slightly better than Southern Miss but thats not saying much. They would bring no value to the TV contract.
Toledo was 10-2 last year and had a winning season in basketball. In between the Detroit and Cleveland markets and gets you back into Ohio and the mid-west.
Ohio went 8-5 last season and had a good year in basketball going 23-12. They sit in south east Ohio and have a good sized student body. A big student body and competent athletics is something the conference should be looking for.
NIU went 8-6 last year and continue to rack up bowl appearances and MAC division titles. A good season in BBall like Ohio and a good TV market should make them very attractive to the TV partners.
Buffalo went 5-7 last year and had a similar basketball season to NIU and Ohio and continue to build off the success Hurly had up there. They sit in a decent market and could be a eastern option to keep UConn company if they are left behind.
UMass went 3-9 last season and didn't have a good season in basketball but played in a much tougher conference than the rest on this list above. They are a big state school in the North east and would help make a nice NE trio along with UConn and Temple.
Now my personal opinion is that a all sports minus fb school should be added to off balance Navy FB. I think VCU which is a power in the strong A-10 would really really help bolster the basketball side of the conference if you should lose both Memphis and Cincy. Their fan base travels well and they play a tough brand of basketball. Also keeps you with a team in the VA/DC/MD area all year long.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
Add Army (footbal only), UAB, Charlotte, ODU and Georgia State to the list, to be fair - all assuming that present MWC teams are unavailable.
We need to shore up basketball.
My opinion: The conference has minimum experience, athletic budget and academic standards. Media market has always been a major consideration for this conference. Army, Rice and UAB should be at the front. WSU, UMass and VCU should be added outside of football (with a development program put in place for UMass football). ESPN will help decide.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, Colorado State, Army, Toledo, NIU... in that order. jmo.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 12:19 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Add Army (footbal only), UAB, Charlotte, ODU and Georgia State to the list, to be fair - all assuming that present MWC teams are unavailable.
We need to shore up basketball.
My opinion: The conference has minimum experience, athletic budget and academic standards. Media market has always been a major consideration for this conference. Army, Rice and UAB should be at the front. WSU, UMass and VCU should be added outside of football (with a development program put in place for UMass football). ESPN will help decide.
UAB is a permanent "no go". They have 'Bama issue that will always limit their potential.
Personally, Id say you have to consider everything. Performance, academics, student body size, attendance, athletic budget, brand, TV ratings, market size, and geography. Do that, and Army and several MW teams immediately float to the top. After that, the possible replacement pool starts to get ugly fast.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (07-28-2016 12:19 PM)Enriquillo Wrote: Add Army (footbal only), UAB, Charlotte, ODU and Georgia State to the list, to be fair - all assuming that present MWC teams are unavailable.
We need to shore up basketball.
My opinion: The conference has minimum experience, athletic budget and academic standards. Media market has always been a major consideration for this conference. Army, Rice and UAB should be at the front. WSU, UMass and VCU should be added outside of football (with a development program put in place for UMass football). ESPN will help decide.
UAB is a permanent "no go". They have 'Bama issue that will always limit their potential.
Personally, Id say you have to consider everything. Performance, academics, student body size, attendance, athletic budget, brand, TV ratings, market size, and geography. Do that, and Army and several MW teams immediately float to the top. After that, the possible replacement pool starts to get ugly fast.
I doubt Bama will be an issue any longer after Birmingham business woke up and after Jr retiring
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 12:21 PM)No Bull Wrote: BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, Colorado State, Army, Toledo, NIU... in that order. jmo.
LOL. NOT HAPPENING .
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 12:10 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: Here are some ideas on who should be considered for AAC admission.
WKU was 12-2 last year and the Champs of CUSA going undefeated in conference play. Gets the AAC back into the Ohio Valley region.
Marshall was 10-3 last year and could be a good fit though playing against an increased level of competition might be too much for the small school.
Southern Miss 9-5 last year finishing first in CUSA West division. They have a lot of history with most of the conference but don't bring much value to the TV deal and basketball would only get worse.
Rice was 5-7 last year. Yes, they have great academics but a team that struggles in CUSA should not be high on the list. They're basketball was only slightly better than Southern Miss but thats not saying much. They would bring no value to the TV contract.
Toledo was 10-2 last year and had a winning season in basketball. In between the Detroit and Cleveland markets and gets you back into Ohio and the mid-west.
Ohio went 8-5 last season and had a good year in basketball going 23-12. They sit in south east Ohio and have a good sized student body. A big student body and competent athletics is something the conference should be looking for.
NIU went 8-6 last year and continue to rack up bowl appearances and MAC division titles. A good season in BBall like Ohio and a good TV market should make them very attractive to the TV partners.
Buffalo went 5-7 last year and had a similar basketball season to NIU and Ohio and continue to build off the success Hurly had up there. They sit in a decent market and could be a eastern option to keep UConn company if they are left behind.
UMass went 3-9 last season and didn't have a good season in basketball but played in a much tougher conference than the rest on this list above. They are a big state school in the North east and would help make a nice NE trio along with UConn and Temple.
Now my personal opinion is that a all sports minus fb school should be added to off balance Navy FB. I think VCU which is a power in the strong A-10 would really really help bolster the basketball side of the conference if you should lose both Memphis and Cincy. Their fan base travels well and they play a tough brand of basketball. Also keeps you with a team in the VA/DC/MD area all year long.
Army first (if they'll come). Then bball VCU and Wichita. Maybe if we lose 3-4 teams we look at other schools. I'd prefer to keep football at 9 or 10 rather than watering down with the schools you mentioned.
I'd also rather see a MWC/AAC mega conf than bring up CUSA and Mac schools.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 12:59 PM)First Mate Wrote: (07-28-2016 12:10 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: Here are some ideas on who should be considered for AAC admission.
WKU was 12-2 last year and the Champs of CUSA going undefeated in conference play. Gets the AAC back into the Ohio Valley region.
Marshall was 10-3 last year and could be a good fit though playing against an increased level of competition might be too much for the small school.
Southern Miss 9-5 last year finishing first in CUSA West division. They have a lot of history with most of the conference but don't bring much value to the TV deal and basketball would only get worse.
Rice was 5-7 last year. Yes, they have great academics but a team that struggles in CUSA should not be high on the list. They're basketball was only slightly better than Southern Miss but thats not saying much. They would bring no value to the TV contract.
Toledo was 10-2 last year and had a winning season in basketball. In between the Detroit and Cleveland markets and gets you back into Ohio and the mid-west.
Ohio went 8-5 last season and had a good year in basketball going 23-12. They sit in south east Ohio and have a good sized student body. A big student body and competent athletics is something the conference should be looking for.
NIU went 8-6 last year and continue to rack up bowl appearances and MAC division titles. A good season in BBall like Ohio and a good TV market should make them very attractive to the TV partners.
Buffalo went 5-7 last year and had a similar basketball season to NIU and Ohio and continue to build off the success Hurly had up there. They sit in a decent market and could be a eastern option to keep UConn company if they are left behind.
UMass went 3-9 last season and didn't have a good season in basketball but played in a much tougher conference than the rest on this list above. They are a big state school in the North east and would help make a nice NE trio along with UConn and Temple.
Now my personal opinion is that a all sports minus fb school should be added to off balance Navy FB. I think VCU which is a power in the strong A-10 would really really help bolster the basketball side of the conference if you should lose both Memphis and Cincy. Their fan base travels well and they play a tough brand of basketball. Also keeps you with a team in the VA/DC/MD area all year long.
Army first (if they'll come). Then bball VCU and Wichita. Maybe if we lose 3-4 teams we look at other schools. I'd prefer to keep football at 9 or 10 rather than watering down with the schools you mentioned.
I'd also rather see a MWC/AAC mega conf than bring up CUSA and Mac schools.
Now wouldn't logic dictate that the TV contract will take a big hit at 10 FB schools? Also losing out on 3 big cities. You'll be able to get a larger slice of the playoff money but less of a chance to win the access bowl bid.
One more thing, the Army/Navy game has it's own TV deal and i'd bet those two would be reluctant to share that money even if it became a conference game though their current deal with CBS expires in 2018.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
Again, I would love for Marshall to get a shot at the AAC
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
I think the AAC needs to take a hard look at Toledo. I'd say Ohio too but they don't really bring any market size to speak of.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
EAST
Cincinnati
UConn
East Carolina
South Florida
UCF
Temple
Buffalo
Old Dominion
WEST
Houston
Memphis
Navy
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
NIU
Texas State
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
pass
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 03:20 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: EAST
Cincinnati
UConn
East Carolina
South Florida
UCF
Temple
Buffalo
Old Dominion
WEST
Houston
Memphis
Navy
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
NIU
Texas State
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
Quote:Add UAB, Charlotte, ODU and Georgia State to the list, to be
fair - all assuming that present MWC teams are unavailable.
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2016 03:41 PM by jpirate.)
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 01:49 PM)Bear Wrote: Again, I would love for Marshall to get a shot at the AAC
Marshall is fun to play, great fans and has history. NQ (or whatever you want to call them) is the issue. Marshall is a better "name" school than most options.
They win.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 03:20 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: EAST
Cincinnati
UConn
East Carolina
South Florida
UCF
Temple
Buffalo
Old Dominion
WEST
Houston
Memphis
Navy
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
NIU
Texas State
You had us until Buffalo and Texas State.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 03:40 PM)jpirate Wrote: Quote:Add UAB, Charlotte, ODU and Georgia State to the list, to be
fair - all assuming that present MWC teams are unavailable.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 03:45 PM)isidnirb Wrote: (07-28-2016 01:49 PM)Bear Wrote: Again, I would love for Marshall to get a shot at the AAC
Marshall is fun to play, great fans and has history. NQ (or whatever you want to call them) is the issue. Marshall is a better "name" school than most options.
They win.
What does "NQ" stand for?
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
(07-28-2016 03:53 PM)acc4life Wrote: (07-28-2016 03:45 PM)isidnirb Wrote: (07-28-2016 01:49 PM)Bear Wrote: Again, I would love for Marshall to get a shot at the AAC
Marshall is fun to play, great fans and has history. NQ (or whatever you want to call them) is the issue. Marshall is a better "name" school than most options.
They win.
What does "NQ" stand for?
NCAA non qualifiers(don't meet minimum NCAA standards). Marshall (and UNT I believe) recruit and admit them, by having them take classes at the university before they are eligible to play football.
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RE: G5 Schools NOT in the AAC that Should Be Considered
Guys as long as we don't get any more money nobody's coming how many times I have to stress this
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