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RE: What is stopping B12 from adding 6 schools - More schools = More $$
(07-28-2016 05:11 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
Quote:filled with a bunch of teams that all have different goals and playing teams you you care nothing about

Um....

You do realize this is how your fellow conference mates are describing the Big 12 right now as they discuss realignment right? Go check out their fan boards, its pretty much a word for word description.

I do realize this that is why adding 2 to 6 more schools only makes it more of a disaster especially if you are going to take from the $14+ million dollars LESS those new teams will bring to the conference annually per team than current members are set to make on average for the last 8 years so those current members can make a bit more money

this is also why the plan I have for the Big 12 which is to not be so tightly grouped to one another and dependent on one another and instead play FEWER conference games so each individual conference member can schedule for their program needs and goals is a much better solution than adding more teams with dissimilar goals, budgets, fan support, donor support and facilities spread out all across the USA and that no current members really want to be associated with
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RE: What is stopping B12 from adding 6 schools - More schools = More $$
It seems to me that the entire premise for B12 expansion, now that it is no longer necessary to expand to stage a CCG, is that there is a one-time opportunity to screw over the B12's media partners. You remember them - the ones who essentially bailed out a conference in imminent danger of imploding by over paying on their last contract.

Turns out, according to this theory, that ESPN and Fox made a billion dollar blunder by assuring the Big 12 that they would be kept whole if they expanded (at a time when the possibility they could snag Clemson and Florida State was still on the table). Apparently, these business savvy media guys messed up, and inadvertently guaranteed up to a billion dollars more over the remaining life of the contract with absolutely no say over who the Big XII might add (or how much of that billion the league would share with the desperate newbies).

Now I'm just one average sports fan, but it seems to me the Big XII shouldn't expect to get a lot of love from ESPN and Fox when this lousy deal expires. But maybe if you are Oklahoma or Texas, who could scuttle this, you don't expect to be part of the Big XII when that next shoe drops. You are counting on the premise that other P5 conferences would be glad to have scumbags like you as partners as long as you deliver eyeballs for their football network.

How do you suppose Houston would feel if they agree to take half pay for the rest of this contract only to see the league implode after all? For ESPN the lesson is clear: No good deed goes unpunished.
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(07-28-2016 05:11 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
Quote:filled with a bunch of teams that all have different goals and playing teams you you care nothing about

Um....

You do realize this is how your fellow conference mates are describing the Big 12 right now as they discuss realignment right? Go check out their fan boards, its pretty much a word for word description.

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Great post.

Go Cougs!!
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RE: What is stopping B12 from adding 6 schools - More schools = More $$
(07-28-2016 11:34 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Its the ultimate con job.

sign up 4 schools who, in desperation, all agree to receive little to none of that 25 million for the first 8 years (ie until the GOR runs out) and then UT and OU jump ship after they made millions off the schools who gave up their payment in hopes of a better future all while saying "hey we left you a P5 conference so no one needs to tag along with us!"

Same thought here. And it plays to a lesser extent when the C-USA schools pay to reform C-USA (minus Houston, Memphis, and Cincinnati) under the AAC brand. The MWC and MAC look like the winners.
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