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New CAA TV deal in the works
http://www.dnronline.com/sports/caa-eyes...a5ece.html

NBCSN deal unlikely to continue. CAA is actively talking to ESPN for a digital platform.
07-28-2016 10:03 AM
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.
07-28-2016 11:37 AM
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

The article said the CAA gets some revenue for it's NBCSN tv deal, but not enough to distribute to member schools. So it's hard to say it'll be less when it wasn't anything the schools received in the first place. It was and will still likely be zero.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

I for one hope they get away from CSN... Where I'm at, I paid a little extra to get the CSN channels as they recently dropped Comcast Sports South. That said, even though I paid extra for them, DirecTV sometimes blocked the game due to it only being available for the region. It sucked, I paid money for a channel that was blocking the content I wanted to watch. Why even offer it?

Side note, we had a huge JMU watch party for the Richmond game set up at a bar. Come game time, the channel blacked out the game without notice. It's hard to get a watch party together when it's not a definite the game will be available. Very irritating.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:14 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

I for one hope they get away from CSN... Where I'm at, I paid a little extra to get the CSN channels as they recently dropped Comcast Sports South. That said, even though I paid extra for them, DirecTV sometimes blocked the game due to it only being available for the region. It sucked, I paid money for a channel that was blocking the content I wanted to watch. Why even offer it?

Side note, we had a huge JMU watch party for the Richmond game set up at a bar. Come game time, the channel blacked out the game without notice. It's hard to get a watch party together when it's not a definite the game will be available. Very irritating.

Yeah. This plus NBCSN not airing any games for the CAA this year and I'm done with them. ESPN3 is a better option at this point if they can guarantee every CAA team's home games are put on there. That would increase our coverage availability nationally compared to now.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
Several points to add...

1. ESPN has minimum operational performance standards which schools must meet for ESPN-3/WatchESPN broadcast productions (e.g., bandwidth, cameras, etc.). Also, the home schools almost always produce the ESPN-3 streams so JMU will have to improve significantly over the MadiZone Buffer Fest that we often get. Further, with few exceptions, the host athletic member school provides the announcers (and just hopes they are as objective as possible and not complete homers...this will also be a slight difference to MadiZone).

2. The SEC and ACC have spent many millions in production capability improvements at member schools' campuses to provide the SEC Network Plus and now ACC Network Extra (starting in a month) broadcasts to make more professional. Speaking of, while those 2 monikers are just ESPN-3/WatchESPN with a fancy new conference bow on them, having those outside of the ESPN-3 list of broadcasts does now open up space for CAA and others to fill some of that void - not that anybody is screaming for it, mind you.

3. The best connectivity with ESPN/ESPN-3/WatchESPN in addition to ESPN being a giant and better exposure for the CAA to me is the trickle over into other sports. Not just FB and MBB, but Lady Dukes, Softball, Baseball, etc. Also, as recently shown, the CAA FB Media Days and other non-game shows can be provided, though ESPN will not want to dilute their list of offerings with shows which will attract a dozen fans.

4. While there is no DVR option for ESPN-3 ala TV carriage, be aware ESPN-3 broadcasts are in archive for several weeks after an event completes so if you want to watch the game in entirety afterwards, that option exists. A lot of schools' fans somehow get them to YouTube for permanent viewing (though I'm not sure if there are any trademark issues with that practice).

5. Many athletic programs have a PPV option for all home live broadcasts across multiple sports events throughout the school year which are not on TV or streamed via ESPN-3. They use the same equipment and broadcast as if it is going on ESPN-3...just that ESPN-3 doesn't want it. This would be your Lady Dukes games against cupcakes at the Convo, for example. Coaches shows, bracket announcement party shows, etc. Think MadiZone, but you pay an annual fee (say around ~$79 is what I've seen for the entire school year or ~$10 for a month subscription). It's an additional revenue stream for the AA and puts the onus on the AA to provide live coverage of almost all home sports events throughout the school year on some kind of platform - TV or ESPN-3 as primary and PPV as backup. This also can help recruiting because our coaches can advise family members of recruiting targets that they can watch every game online from wherever they live if/when they cannot be in Harrisonburg. The CAA can develop a network across its members so a PPV to JMU gets you access to road games at CAA institutions.
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RE: New CAA TV deal in the works
(07-28-2016 12:07 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 12:03 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 11:37 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Did not the Carr report state revenue streams at the FCS level would begin to dry up?
I have to believe a new deal with ESPN which features only live streaming opportunities would be a significant less deal than the one previously in place.

How so, we get no monies from our current deal (I'm not sure we can call it a deal at all) so how can it be less unless you give value to being on some absurd channel that we have to hunt diligently to find? Only the most ardent fan can find us on TV. I'd take ESPN3 any day over what we have. It would end the Madizone nightmare.

Eh, CSN channels are right there in a cable/satellite package alongside all of the sports channels. Someone would really have to struggle to know how to operate a TV to not find them.

It is better to have ESPN3 for national availability though. Anyone around the world can view the game and it'll be much better streaming quality compared to Madizone. It'll allow all JMU home games and probably all of our CAA road games to appear on ESPN3 to anyone including watching the archive of the game later on.

My only complaint would be the lack of recording on a DVR.

My Direct TV package has the ESPN channels, the NBSSN, FSN, CBSSN, Golf, Tennis, NFL, and a few more all lumped together from 205 - 221 with no CSN anywhere near them. It's up in the 600's right along side FS2 and a few other sports channels no one watches unless you have an attachment to the competition. No football fan surfs to that area, they only go there for a specific event and real men click from one sport to another, but we don't go up to those channels unless necessary.
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Might as well put CAA games on Periscope.
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