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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
Pipp and Little have left the program:

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index
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Seems to be a pattern.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
Well that's not good. Really not good. I liked both of these guys' tape coming out of HS. Pipp coming in early made me feel a little better about our LB situation.

This doesn't make any sense. Why would they enroll early and then leave before fall camp? Now they waste a whole year before they can play somewhere else. And they sacrificed all that time and effort in order to enroll early. Something is fishy here. I wonder what the whole story is.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
I want to preface this with the statement I have zero inside knowledge on this matter, my impression is purely as an outsider. This week we've seen multiple people left off the roster, be readded as the week has gone on. My guess here is that there were some team specific requirements that the staff created. My sense is that several guys did not meet whatever expectation that might be. Some possibly crossed that threshold this week and were reinstated, some did not by the deadline. I've been plenty critical of Fleck when it was fair, in this instance I believe we might be seeing something positive for our program. I think standards are being enforced. Might not be anything damaging to these players reputations, no juicy issues, purely didn't meet team expectations, and the staff didn't let them cut corners.

Again purely my impression from the timing of multiple events this week.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 10:23 PM)Doo Wrote:  I want to preface this with the statement I have zero inside knowledge on this matter, my impression is purely as an outsider. This week we've seen multiple people left off the roster, be readded as the week has gone on. My guess here is that there were some team specific requirements that the staff created. My sense is that several guys did not meet whatever expectation that might be. Some possibly crossed that threshold this week and were reinstated, some did not by the deadline. I've been plenty critical of Fleck when it was fair, in this instance I believe we might be seeing something positive for our program. I think standards are being enforced. Might not be anything damaging to these players reputations, no juicy issues, purely didn't meet team expectations, and the staff didn't let them cut corners.

Again purely my impression from the timing of multiple events this week.

I think this is a fair assessment of the situation and probably not far from the truth.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 10:25 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!

Why do you care so much about anyone not goose stepping to your anti-fleck agenda? Geesh dude... Give it a rest.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 10:42 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:23 PM)Doo Wrote:  I want to preface this with the statement I have zero inside knowledge on this matter, my impression is purely as an outsider. This week we've seen multiple people left off the roster, be readded as the week has gone on. My guess here is that there were some team specific requirements that the staff created. My sense is that several guys did not meet whatever expectation that might be. Some possibly crossed that threshold this week and were reinstated, some did not by the deadline. I've been plenty critical of Fleck when it was fair, in this instance I believe we might be seeing something positive for our program. I think standards are being enforced. Might not be anything damaging to these players reputations, no juicy issues, purely didn't meet team expectations, and the staff didn't let them cut corners.

Again purely my impression from the timing of multiple events this week.

I think this is a fair assessment of the situation and probably not far from the truth.

I agree.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 10:58 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:25 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!

Why do you care so much about anyone not goose stepping to your anti-fleck agenda? Geesh dude... Give it a rest.

Wow, Perstain at in again..... How many IDS do you have? brah?
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(08-11-2016 11:08 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:58 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:25 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!

Why do you care so much about anyone not goose stepping to your anti-fleck agenda? Geesh dude... Give it a rest.

Wow, Perstain at in again..... How many IDS do you have? brah?

Personally I have the same singular ID I've had since well before BI... your multi ID accusation back slide is getting pathetic.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 11:12 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 11:08 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:58 PM)flushtheherd Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 10:25 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!

Why do you care so much about anyone not goose stepping to your anti-fleck agenda? Geesh dude... Give it a rest.

Wow, Perstain at in again..... How many IDS do you have? brah?

Personally I have the same singular ID I've had since well before BI... your multi ID accusation back slide is getting pathetic.

Sorry, I am NOT on Flecks payroll like most of the $hitstains on this site. What a train wreck.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
(08-11-2016 10:25 PM)DiaperHead69 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:04 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 08:02 PM)Stampede your face!! Wrote:  This is definitely a strange one. Matt Little seemed to be looking forward to camp. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, so maybe they got into a little trouble they shouldn't have? But I don't think we can just say these guys don't have talent and weren't going to play. These guys were sought after by quality programs, so to me, this is a little bit of a blow to at the very least, the depth of the roster.

I agree with Dip. This is a pattern. I've been more supporter of Fleck than detractor, but calling it like I see it. This is getting worrisome. You can't continue to build a program with double digit departures within a year of your program.

Your recruiting classes are really only the tops in the MAC if you can actually keep the guys.

Waiting a couple years to grade the classes, and we're still looking pretty damn good. This team is at a different level than it was a couple years ago.

Why are you ALWAYS defending Fleck? are you getting paid from him too? Bottom line is this is a BIG loss. two GOOD players. Wake up you fool!!

I have no idea what happened to Pipp and Little. Until I do, there's no use disparaging the team/coach. It's fall camp and I'm going to the Northwestern game, and I'm positive and I'm pumped.

If what Doo and Colin are inferring is accurate...I am really impressed. Matt Little seems to be a talent. Again, if Doo is near the mark...it appears our coach has the integrity and roster depth that most don't, regardless of your constant accusations and attacks on his personal life. I don't know him personally, but I am pretty excited about the roster and the coach sticking to his guns.
But like where's Waldo, I am a Christian; certainly a fool.
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RE: 7/25/16 Roster Update
All programs have attrition for various reasons but to have two early enrollees who apparently were in town all Summer leave just before Fall Camp is very unusual.

And another example of how meaningless recruiting rankings can be.
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(08-12-2016 08:08 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  All programs have attrition for various reasons but to have two early enrollees who apparently were in town all Summer leave just before Fall Camp is very unusual.

And another example of how meaningless recruiting rankings can be.

Doo, could you give a few examples the "standards" that would cause a true freshmen to bag it in July/August? Perry, Pipp, Little.......
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Seriously, we have great depth at QB?

Talent yes, but only three deep unless Tanner Morgan passed Littke by in week one
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I don't see how these players "leaving the football program" is part of any train wreck. Players leave teams all the time, everywhere. This could be a result of a disciplinary action or a player's dissatisfaction with the school, playing time, coaches or a meriad of other reasons. Obviously, those who don't like Fleck hope it is part of a train wreck. End of story.
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(08-12-2016 08:20 AM)floridabronco Wrote:  I don't see how these players "leaving the football program" is part of any train wreck. Players leave teams all the time, everywhere. This could be a result of a disciplinary action or a player's dissatisfaction with the school, playing time, coaches or a meriad of other reasons. Obviously, those who don't like Fleck hope it is part of a train wreck. End of story.

End of story? Seems like a sequel to me.
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in unrelated news, some people aren't happy until their unhappy.

see you at Ryan field...
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