(07-25-2016 04:23 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:04 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 03:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 03:36 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  In the end, Bernie, and most democrats, would rather have Hillary than Trump. He was in a bad spot and this is just choosing the lesser of two evils from his point of view. And I was never a Bernie supporter.

Deep down, they'll mostly all tell you that. At this point, what they're trying to achieve is just to push HRC farther to the left on her issues. And thankfully, I think they're slowly achieving that. But it's going to take some time. Both the DNC and the RNC are just too entrenched for these shifts to happen over night.

She will tell you whatever you want to hear.........then just like Lucy yanks the ball from Charlie Brown - once in office she will bow to the will of those rich 1% folks that have made her wealthy. She is already bought and paid for and anything else she says is just another lie - she tells them all the time.

She hasn't driven a car in 25 years - you think she really relates to the small guy?? Pfff.......

I don't remember the last president that could relate to the small guy.

I don't either, but that is the line Hillary is selling with the talk of "free college" and "make the wall streeters pay", etc, etc. - and what she will really do is continue to "help" those very same folks so they put more money in her and Bill's pockets........

People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

(07-25-2016 03:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 03:36 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  In the end, Bernie, and most democrats, would rather have Hillary than Trump. He was in a bad spot and this is just choosing the lesser of two evils from his point of view. And I was never a Bernie supporter.

Deep down, they'll mostly all tell you that. At this point, what they're trying to achieve is just to push HRC farther to the left on her issues. And thankfully, I think they're slowly achieving that. But it's going to take some time. Both the DNC and the RNC are just too entrenched for these shifts to happen over night.

All she had to do was to choose Fauxcahontas, and this wouldnt be happening.

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

It will be a cold day in hell before Hillary voluntarily steps down......she has her crowning achievement in sight and you will have to pry that nomination from her cold, dead hands...........

She couldn't give a crap about the Democratic party save for them helping her win an election. She is totally all about her...... and she will lie, cheat and steal if necessary to garner her power.

(07-25-2016 04:33 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

It will be a cold day in hell before Hillary voluntarily steps down......she has her crowning achievement in sight and you will have to pry that nomination from her cold, dead hands...........

She couldn't give a crap about the Democratic party save for them helping her win an election. She is totally all about her...... and she will lie, cheat and steal if necessary to garner her power.

This is all about Hillary. She doesn't give a crap about the DNC as long as they are working for her.

Could be that Obama and Bernie scared of the Clintons? Remember the theories about how Vince Foster died? They being Hillary's puppet on a string?

(07-25-2016 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Could be that Obama and Bernie scared of the Clintons? Remember the theories about how Vince Foster died? They being Hillary's puppet on a string?

Just moronic.

(07-25-2016 03:31 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How does Bernie get booed by Bernie supporters?

By bringing up Hillary.

(07-25-2016 03:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 03:33 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  perhaps by supporting hillary

So if Bernie supporters boo Bernie, who are they going to vote for?

Some will hold their nose and vote for Hillary.

Some will go Johnson or Stein.

Hell, one or two might vote Trump.

And others will just stay home and drink.

(07-25-2016 04:33 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

It will be a cold day in hell before Hillary voluntarily steps down......she has her crowning achievement in sight and you will have to pry that nomination from her cold, dead hands...........

She couldn't give a crap about the Democratic party save for them helping her win an election. She is totally all about her...... and she will lie, cheat and steal if necessary to garner her power.

This. And she is totally oblivious to anything else.

And that is why she may figure out a way to lose this.

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

Hell, both major parties, at least as we have known them for the past few decades, could soon be extinct. Good bye and good riddance.

(07-25-2016 06:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

Hell, both major parties, at least as we have known them for the past few decades, could soon be extinct. Good bye and good riddance.

We have disagreed plenty But... From your keyboard to Gods ears.

(07-25-2016 03:28 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 03:19 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 02:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 02:19 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  He really did sell completely out.

It is less surprising than I previously thought though.

He has said through this entire process he would support whomever the eventual democratic nominee was.

So, bull crap to you.

The great independent towed a party line.

He was always a fraud and smart people knew it.

He's worked with democrats for nearly the entirety of his political life. Anyone thinking he was a true independent is misinformed.

But he and his supporters said that he was different. That is all I heard from them.

(07-25-2016 06:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

Hell, both major parties, at least as we have known them for the past few decades, could soon be extinct. Good bye and good riddance.

I think it all depends on who's in power when the next recession occurs. I for one (and I'm probably correct in saying that you agree with me) believe we have not fixed many of the structural problems in our economy that caused the previous downfall, and that the next recession will be just as deep (if not more) than the previous one. As awful as it may be, I can see the Democrats dominating American politics (like they did post-1930) if the GOP is in power, because they've got the talking points all lined up for the 'causes' of potential economic problems. I'm not sure the GOP could capture all that momentum in its current form, though if they go the way of the Amashes and Pauls, I think there's a far better chance they take control for a while.

(07-25-2016 07:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 06:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-25-2016 04:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  People said they will quit the party and formed a new party if Hillary is not removed as the Presidential Candidate. Hillary needs to saved face, or the whole Democratic party will die at this convention.

Hell, both major parties, at least as we have known them for the past few decades, could soon be extinct. Good bye and good riddance.

I think it all depends on who's in power when the next recession occurs. I for one (and I'm probably correct in saying that you agree with me) believe we have not fixed many of the structural problems in our economy that caused the previous downfall, and that the next recession will be just as deep (if not more) than the previous one. As awful as it may be, I can see the Democrats dominating American politics (like they did post-1930) if the GOP is in power, because they've got the talking points all lined up for the 'causes' of potential economic problems. I'm not sure the GOP could capture all that momentum in its current form, though if they go the way of the Amashes and Pauls, I think there's a far better chance they take control for a while.

You are entirely correct in believing that I agree with you.

In the mean time, this is all I'm thinking of: