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(07-24-2016 11:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Hillary's campaign manager (Robby Mook) is claiming that the Russians are behind the leaks of the Emails in order to help Trump. The spin is on folks. 07-coffee3


I think Robby Mook is the one behind trashing Sanders since last year. There could be an email between him and the DNC. Wikileaks should put those up now to implicate Hillary was in on the whole thing to rig the Primaries.
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(07-24-2016 11:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Hillary's campaign manager (Robby Mook) is claiming that the Russians are behind the leaks of the Emails in order to help Trump. The spin is on folks. 07-coffee3

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(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

The end game is hopefully to shed light on the cockroaches who are a cancer to this country.

I hope the next batch gets posted the day of Her Crooked Lying Highness' coronation acceptance speech and I hope they spend all day in a rage doing damage control.

The country is finally seeing what many already thought. These people are malignant tumors.
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Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Destroy America. Ever since the USSR folded we stopped fighting them and turned on each other.
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I wonder if one day when someone on this board is running for some office, wikileaks "leaks" comments made in the SPIN room.
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(07-24-2016 11:03 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Open governments, shine light on the rigged systems. If he could hack RNC there would be some collusion
against Trump, not as bad as DNC though.

But there's the rather inconvenient truth that Trump actually won the Republican nomination despite the fact he was not exactly the Rep establishment, and Bernie didn't and couldn;t overcome the deeply ingrained culture of corruption and good-ol-boy-and-girl cronyism in the Democratic party.

In the endgame, despite Bernie's apparent last-minute entreaties otherwise, his supporters are more radical and more likely to stay away in November if they feel cheated and lied to (gee, fancy a Democrat doing something like that: cough Jim Crow laws- creation of the democratic Party btw, cough, cough, cough) or cause even more chaos and disorder that their party and perspective already do in society.

The Republican party is far from perfect, far from it. But the underlying philosophy that it is up to the individual to be better, and to work within those non-government social systems if he needs help: churches, civic organizations, non-profits and charities; and to help each-other voluntarily and not expect the government to do everything for them, that is the winning path to success for the majority of average people.

Democratic party and 'progressives' (more like "regressives") actually hinder any progress by rigging the system, and the Democratic primaries this year and the DNC and their emails are just an exposed example of what eventually happens when you make too many laws trying to rig too many things in a society with too many wrongs by people who won;t stand up for themselves as individuals and demand better of themselves before they ask the government for anything.

"Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country." John Kennedy was a leech and an indecent and despicable person, and his wife was a social climber with no shame and little backbone, in many, many ways, but he got that one right. Which of the two major parties even purports to embody Kennedy's philosophy today?

I think more registered democrats who actually do vote in Nov will hold their nose inn the end and vote for Trump, if for nothing else than to help blow up the establishment on both sides. And that might not be such a bad thing.
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Bernie is a socialist. Even you guys said he was. Im not even sure why he ran as a democrat.
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Sure, it's kinda fun to have some schadenfreude in watching the Democratic Party squirm, especially since some were so smug after the RNC clown show.

But I've said this before: I'd like to see the US invest in upping our cyberattack, security and hacker capabilities. Feels like the Russians, Chinese, etc., are eating our lunch now.

There's a tabloid fascination that comes with the Sony and DNC hacks. But there's still the inconvenient truth that private property was breached.
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(07-25-2016 06:55 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I wonder if one day when someone on this board is running for some office, wikileaks "leaks" comments made in the SPIN room.

If I said it I meant it. Bite my tongue for no one.
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(07-24-2016 11:03 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Open governments, shine light on the rigged systems. If he could hack RNC there would be some collusion
against Trump, not as bad as DNC though.

It doesn't take much to see the RNC was working AGAINST Trump so Asange gets nothing from exploring that option. Unfortunately for everyone, the RNC is just not as experienced and as efficient in rigging things like the DNC and Hilldawg.
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Some people like to watch the world burn
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(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.
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He gets to affect history. How many people can say they really did that? That's worth more than money to some.
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(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

What does Indonesia have to do with it?
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(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

Funny, I dont recall your butthurt over Assaunge being an American hater until he burned Hillary.

Assaunge and Putin dont want Trump. What they are doing is blackmailing Hillary. If she doesnt cave to some items they want, they will release more and more emails.

If the emails stop, then Hillary will have made some agreement with them. Bank on it.

This is why we were so concerned about her illegal private email server. They have things to use against her.
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(07-26-2016 01:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

Funny, I dont recall your butthurt over Assaunge being an American hater until he burned Hillary.

Assaunge and Putin dont want Trump. What they are doing is blackmailing Hillary. If she doesnt cave to some items they want, they will release more and more emails.

If the emails stop, then Hillary will have made some agreement with them. Bank on it.

This is why we were so concerned about her illegal private email server. They have things to use against her.

Russia already owns Hillary just like the Uranium. Good point on the private server. If the DNC server got hacked, surely her home brew server was able to be hacked as well.
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(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

Pure speculation.
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(07-26-2016 01:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

Pure speculation.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international...to/492332/

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/ar...nd-his-ti/ Up to 20 million bucks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...-interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...tin-213833

Each one of these articles focuses on a different area where Trump is influenced by Putin. Carter Page, Micheal Flynn, his business interests, his public statements, Paul Manafort and more, so much more. Up to 20 million bucks to his campaign manager. His foreign policy advisor won't say how much he's received from Russia. Trump won't release his financials so we don't know how much he gets from Putin or how dependent he is on Putin.

And now, Trump wants to harm NATO...Putin's dream. And Trumps people also removed US support for Ukraine from the GOP platform. Putin is getting what he wants from Trump.
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(07-26-2016 01:11 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-26-2016 01:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(07-26-2016 12:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-24-2016 09:28 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Wikileaks has said that there are more emails to be released and that these will be done sometime in the future.

For a second, let's assume that they have some emails that are more destructive to Hillary's chances than the current bunch. And let's assume that they release them on Halloween; just in time for the election.

Why would they do that? Do they want Trump to win? I'd guess not. So what is their reason for hurting Hillary?

Russia is behind Assaunge. They want Trump. Besides Assaunge and Snowden know that HRC isn't going to let them out of their exiles.

Assaunge is an America hater. Full stop.

Trump's campaign (and I've been mentioning this well before the HRC campaign did) has been dangerously pro-Putin for a long time now. Trump did Putin's bidding at the RNC platform committee, his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Putin, his foreign policy advisor is a supporter of Russia and will not say whether he is being paid by Russia Today or not.

Remember, Russia wants the US to ignore all of their moves to expand their hateful rule. So they want another Iraq style distraction for the US military and treasury. Trump would basically run the US exactly how Russia would like the USA to be run.

Funny, I dont recall your butthurt over Assaunge being an American hater until he burned Hillary.

Assaunge and Putin dont want Trump. What they are doing is blackmailing Hillary. If she doesnt cave to some items they want, they will release more and more emails.

If the emails stop, then Hillary will have made some agreement with them. Bank on it.

This is why we were so concerned about her illegal private email server. They have things to use against her.

Russia already owns Hillary just like the Uranium. Good point on the private server. If the DNC server got hacked, surely her home brew server was able to be hacked as well.

The 1980's called...They want their network security back.
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