(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:46 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:43 PM)JMU Wrote:  Is JMU offering its honor's college enrollees some kind of $ scholarship? Seems like this would be necessary to compete effectively with other honor college programs that offer $.

Now that is a very interesting question.......why would we do that, we don't need to offer COA to athletes to be competitive....so why do we need to incentivize these students further.

Just being sarcastic.

I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:46 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:43 PM)JMU Wrote:  Is JMU offering its honor's college enrollees some kind of $ scholarship? Seems like this would be necessary to compete effectively with other honor college programs that offer $.

Now that is a very interesting question.......why would we do that, we don't need to offer COA to athletes to be competitive....so why do we need to incentivize these students further.

Just being sarcastic.

I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:46 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:43 PM)JMU Wrote:  Is JMU offering its honor's college enrollees some kind of $ scholarship? Seems like this would be necessary to compete effectively with other honor college programs that offer $.

Now that is a very interesting question.......why would we do that, we don't need to offer COA to athletes to be competitive....so why do we need to incentivize these students further.

Just being sarcastic.

I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:46 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:43 PM)JMU Wrote:  Is JMU offering its honor's college enrollees some kind of $ scholarship? Seems like this would be necessary to compete effectively with other honor college programs that offer $.

Now that is a very interesting question.......why would we do that, we don't need to offer COA to athletes to be competitive....so why do we need to incentivize these students further.

Just being sarcastic.

I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

I would guess JMU would look at it this way: the overall athletic scholarship value > than any honors college stipend value. So athletes are already getting more than their fair share of value. There is no additional money in the form of COA required for athletes. Honors students, however, need a perk (which would generally be less than full scholarship) to be attracted and enroll at JMU vs. a VT/UVA or any other similar university.

(01-19-2016 01:19 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:46 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  Now that is a very interesting question.......why would we do that, we don't need to offer COA to athletes to be competitive....so why do we need to incentivize these students further.

Just being sarcastic.

I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

You mad BP? Or you just can't figure this one out by yourself, and you need your Daddy to help do your homework?

(01-20-2016 04:09 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:19 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:53 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I knew you were, but some people don't have much of a sense of humor. To answer the question, I'm pretty sure HH&C addressed this several months ago and yes there will be money/scholarship involved, but I've been hoping he'd chime in on this conversation.

Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

You mad BP? Or you just can't figure this one out by yourself, and you need your Daddy to help do your homework?

Trust me when I say this, I need your help. I do not have the intellect of the great one. As far as my father, he had a massive stroke about three years ago, 85 and alive but mentally not available. No need to suggest that I go to my mother, I'm sitting in the hospital room as we speak waiting on the surgeon to update us on the next course of action for an obstruction in her intestines. Should I turn to my sister or two brothers for help deciphering our new Honor's College? By the way, you are an A$$, but like everything else, I'm sure you know it.

(01-20-2016 09:45 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:09 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:19 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:57 PM)JMU Wrote:  Shady, COA vs. Honors College $ is a very interesting question. I guess the athletic scholarship (without COA) > than the Honor College stipend. So COA is not a factor.

I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

You mad BP? Or you just can't figure this one out by yourself, and you need your Daddy to help do your homework?

Trust me when I say this, I need your help. I do not have the intellect of the great one. As far as my father, he had a massive stroke about three years ago, 85 and alive but mentally not available. No need to suggest that I go to my mother, I'm sitting in the hospital room as we speak waiting on the surgeon to update us on the next course of action for an obstruction in her intestines. Should I turn to my sister or two brothers for help deciphering our new Honor's College? By the way, you are an A$$, but like everything else, I'm sure you know it.

INSTANT CLASSIC

(01-20-2016 09:52 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 09:45 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:09 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:19 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:11 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  I look at it more this way.....
JMU has thus far taken a stance that COA is not needed for JMU to attract desired student athletes given the other things JMU has to offer versus schools do offer COA.

So to extend that to the Honors College discussion, one could argue that JMU would not need to offer Honors College $$$ to attract these desired students when competing against other schools.

Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

You mad BP? Or you just can't figure this one out by yourself, and you need your Daddy to help do your homework?

Trust me when I say this, I need your help. I do not have the intellect of the great one. As far as my father, he had a massive stroke about three years ago, 85 and alive but mentally not available. No need to suggest that I go to my mother, I'm sitting in the hospital room as we speak waiting on the surgeon to update us on the next course of action for an obstruction in her intestines. Should I turn to my sister or two brothers for help deciphering our new Honor's College? By the way, you are an A$$, but like everything else, I'm sure you know it.

INSTANT CLASSIC

This thread turned into a double

BP - Good luck with your Mom.

(01-20-2016 10:37 AM)JMU Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 09:52 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 09:45 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:09 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 01:19 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Where is LH and his "you don't have a clue what you are talking about" routine or the "I'm from TX, and my uncle's girlfriend's step mother's cousin came to the 'Burg last week and this is the way it will work so all you little people will now understand". He can straighten this whole mess out in a heartbeat.

You mad BP? Or you just can't figure this one out by yourself, and you need your Daddy to help do your homework?

Trust me when I say this, I need your help. I do not have the intellect of the great one. As far as my father, he had a massive stroke about three years ago, 85 and alive but mentally not available. No need to suggest that I go to my mother, I'm sitting in the hospital room as we speak waiting on the surgeon to update us on the next course of action for an obstruction in her intestines. Should I turn to my sister or two brothers for help deciphering our new Honor's College? By the way, you are an A$$, but like everything else, I'm sure you know it.

INSTANT CLASSIC

This thread turned into a double

BP - Good luck with your Mom.

Thank you!

Arkansas State has a thriving Honors College. Not really sure when it started but I assume it's been in place for a long time and it is a great thing for the university I'm sure. We have a large honors lounge on campus with studying/relaxing spaces, dedicated honors classrooms, along with 4 very nice on campus honors dorms. I'm sure that it has to be good in some capacity or else the university wouldn't put that much money into it. Congratulations on the improvement!

Not trying to nitpick here...but still not sure on concrete differences between program v college.... if they are not substantial, why didn't we re-name it years ago?

Meh. Some of the best people I've hired have been C students from middle of the road state schools, and some of the worst (at least attitude-wise) have been Phi Beta Kappa at small private colleges. Good grades and fancy programs only measure your ability to do well in those programs, and not necessarily in life. (And I say this having graduated with an A average from JMU.)

Not poo-pooing an honors college. Just saying it hasn't raised ODU's academic standing above ours, and they've had one since 2001, apparently.

(01-20-2016 09:44 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Not trying to nitpick here...but still not sure on concrete differences between program v college.... if they are not substantial, why didn't we re-name it years ago?

I have not spent a lot of time trying to figure out the difference but have wondered the same thing. Probably comes done to more money for academic scholarships = better students.

(01-21-2016 08:26 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 09:44 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Not trying to nitpick here...but still not sure on concrete differences between program v college.... if they are not substantial, why didn't we re-name it years ago?

I have not spent a lot of time trying to figure out the difference but have wondered the same thing. Probably comes done to more money for academic scholarships = better students.

Take this with a grain of salt, but I want to say, reading between the lines, is that there isn't any money per say involved with only a program, mainly prestige for the student. With an Honor's College there is real and substantial cost to the university.

Can we not just be appreciative of some semblance of progress and stop complaining? this message board is exhausting.

(01-21-2016 07:31 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Can we not just be appreciative of some semblance of progress and stop complaining? this message board is exhausting.

We should grab a guitar and sing kumbaya at every decision the admin makes...

Our peers have Honors Colleges and we are striving to raise money to provide more scholarships to attract top students to come to JMU. We have a ton of smart students that are not in Honors and we are talking about doing a number of programs that involve Honors students and other JMU students so we tap into all of the talent at the university. Some really cool stuff is on the horizon on the academic side of the house.

http://www.jmu.edu/news/2016/07/20-honor...ml#fbshare

Great day earlier this week when the Honors College was approved. VA Tech is now transitioning their Honors Program to a college but they are behind 21-16.

(07-21-2016 07:00 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  Great day earlier this week when the Honors College was approved. VA Tech is now transitioning their Honors Program to a college but they are behind 21-16.

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